Highest bouncing service?

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  1. djones

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    Especially those gravel players really extremely high bouncing (second) services.
    Many of them would just fly over my head, but which player does hit it the highest?
    Are the some players around who are known for serving sky high topspin/kickservices?
     
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  2. Rickson

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    Roddick.
     
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  3. irishbanger

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    Ivo Karlovic
     
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  4. Kick Serve

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    Edberg was the master of the kick serve in his day, but I'd have give the title to Roddick among current players.
     
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  5. Tim Tiger Henman

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    Haven't you guys forgotten someone??

    Sure Roddicks serve bounces high because of the sheer pace.

    But Pat Rafter was the master of the kicker. He took the mantle from Edberg. As to which was higher I'm not sure.
     
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  6. Rickson

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    I want to see a Roddick serve go over the wall.
     
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    You're right, Tim. Patrick Rafter definitely had one helluva kick serve. I still feel Edberg's kick serve was more dominant during his era. Pat definitely had the best during his run, but by that time everyone was hitting effective kick serves. Somehow Roddick has raised the bar even higher with the added pace on his.
     
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  8. a verrry large duck

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    I would say roddick on rpm's, and karlovic just on his angle down into the court. I love kick serves.
     
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  9. tomahawk

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    The first guy I would think of is definitely Edberg. I read a story about his Fantasy Camp Pro-am match this year where some idiot told Edberg that he could touch his serve. Then Edberg bet him $100 to touch his next serve. Edberg then proceeded to hit his trademark kick serve that not only went over the guy but also over the back of the fence as well. Another guy I would think of is Boris Becker. I heard the same similar story about Becker as well. As far as current players, I would say Roddick but I would also say Federer. I remember his match at the Aussie Open last year against Tommy Haas and Federer would kick his serve both ways and Haas could barely reach it. Even Pat McEnroe was amazed about it.
     
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  10. brijoel

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    lubjcic or whatever the guy's name is has a pretty wicked serve, but id give edberg or rafter the title i think.
     
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  11. irishbanger

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    Federer says ... Karlovic
     
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    Todd Martin says Karlovic
     
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  13. andreh

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    As I interpreted that article, Edberg framed the ball so that it flew over the fence w/o touching the court. Not sure, though. I didn't read that thoroughly. Still, I seriously doubt that Edberg, or anyone else for that matter, could hit a kicker that bounced over the back fence while still being a good serve.
     
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    What would be the point if Edberg was gonna hit an illegal serve that didn't even touch the court? The story goes that he bet the kid and then bounced a kicker over the kid's head. I don't think it went over the back wall. For further clarification, check out Tennis magazine from July.
     
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    Hmmm, could this have happened more than once? The other article seemed to make the point that serve bounced over the player's head.
     
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  18. kevhen

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    I think Federer said that Karlovic had the better second serve, not necessarily the better kick serve. Karlovic hits his second with alot more pace behind it with less spin and still gets them in because of his height. Roddick's seem to jump 10 feet high and I am surprised he doesn't use that for a first serve and come in an volley behind it on occassion just to mix things up more.
     
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  19. @wright

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    It seems like for awhile Roddick was hitting some huge kick serves for second serves. The sheer height and angles he was hitting were amazing, but I haven't seen him hit them like this for awhile. I want to say it was back around AO time or some Davis Cup tie. He was hitting them wider on the ad court than most lefties.
     
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  20. Chanchai

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    @wright,

    Yeah, I remember this. I think he was working on this a bit at AO, but mainly around the early Spring hardcourt season.

    Or at least P-Mac was saying that Gilbert and Roddick both wanted to develop a serve for Roddick to really nail out extremely wide from the ad court.

    I think someone mentioned that it was a serve that had almost no disguise though, like something an opponent should be able to pick off immediately? Not sure, but the benefit I guess is not to catch an ace by surprise, but to pull the opponent way off court or commit to being out of position when trying to attack the ball early anyways.

    I wonder if we'll see him using this serve quite a bit this summer.

    -Chanchai
     
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  21. Ronaldo

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    Richard Krajicek serves had a bounce out of this world.
     
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  22. Hewittfan22

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    i would say roddick , that ball just jumps so high
     
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