Historic video: Guillermo Vilas training at Roland Garros 1977.

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  1. Vegito

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    This is a very nice and interesting video to watch. Vilas training at Roland Garros 1977 with his coach, Ion Tiriac:


    I asked to the author of this video if those images really belong to that year, and he confirmed it to me.

    I recommend you guys watch it! Also I would like that this video gets to have millions of visits and a lot of comments, the same in this thread. Please watch and comment.
     
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    Good to see him working on his volleys, which are pretty good, and topspin lobs.
    I wished he'd have worked on his first serve more.
     
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    This video comes from a VHS video which was commercialized in France. Vilas is the hardest worker of tennis history. Winning the FO was a great thing for him, because a lot of people thought he could'nt ever win a Grand Slam, because in 1975, 1976, and even AO 1977, he lost a lot of finals or SF in Grand Slams.
    Vilas worked his volley during all his career, and he has a good volley, as we can see in this video, or in the videos of his australian victories.
     
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    Great video-memories.
    Remember him at Oz Open, beating marksie in the final at Kooyong.
    Nobody worked harder on the practice courts that year...watched him from start to finish, day after day.
    Even when he played matches he put in a solid workout.
    he hit thousands of serve with Tiriac, he was always looking for an edge..
    his legacy is all the players like Franco Davin, Nalby , Coria, Chela, Monaco,
    Delpo, Schwank etc.
    Thanks
     
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    That was cool. I don't think I've seen Ian Tiriac hit the ball before.
     
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    Vilas was a good looking fella, no question about that...

    However, how much involved was he with the dictatorship of the Generals (1976-1982), is something that I haven´t figured out yet.
     
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    1977 was an incredible year for Vilas. And Connors, who didn't win a Grand Slam that year, was n°1 ath ATP ranking. Absurd !
     
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    Love Vilas's backhand, (and that Head Vilas racquet).
     
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    I think Tiriac won FO in doubles. But he wasn't a very good single player.
     
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    Great photo ! Was it at Roland-Garros ?
     
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    Tiriac was a boy for everything.Maybe he even tasted the girls Vilas was laying with just before that...
     
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    why?



    ...........
     
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    It's a nice video. You've only got about 999,008 more views to go to get a million views.

    I used to watch Vilas on TV back in the 70's, and, for a time, patterned my game after his. I still use a relatively low ball toss on the serve, a la Vilas, Tanner, etc.
     
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    The question is : if Vilas didn't meet Tiriac, would he have won Grand Slams ? Maybe not, because Tiriax gave to him a tough mental, and learned him the volley. Vilas went often to the net to win AO, and even the US Open final against Connors.
     
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    Great add, thanxs!
     
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    AO final is more impressive, because Vilas volleyed all the time and very good !!


     
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    That racquet Tiriac is using is quite large...
     
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    Did the Poet from Argentina ever dedicated one of his poetry peices to Tiriac? or to Princess Caroline?
     
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    True. ATP is so stupid. It would be very simple and fair to say : "Vilas is the world champion 1977".
     
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    Not the ATP´s fault.Computer are computers.In 1978 Borg was the best player and yet Connors was ranked nº1.But the ITF had a " world champion" honorific prize, which the first one, in 78, went to Bjorn Borg.If that prize had been awarded in 1977, it would probably been Vilas to win it.
     
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    Damn...makes me wanna to pullout the old Fila track suit and wear my socks over my pant this weekend. Sweet clip!
     
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    Back around 84 at the US Clay court championships, I sat for an hour on the court and watched Tiriac drilling Vilas on an outside practice court rather than remaining inside to watch the matches. Vilas had his shirt off and the women were swooning all over the place. The guy was handsome and maintained a well built upper body. Apparently Vilas had failed to put away a few short balls in the round before and Tiriac was yelling, grunting, and never smiling whilst feeding him short balls off both wings. Vilas never said two words in that time but must have hit a thousand balls in that intense one hour. It was eye opening to see how hard he worked and though rushed for time, he still found time to sign a few autographs.
     
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    Vilas is the hardest worker of tennis history.
     
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    only a matter of time now:)
    watched it twice this morning
     
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    Great find, thanks
     
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    And Tiriac's tache deserves multiple mentions
     
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    Why did the ATP finagle the rankings in 77? Clearly Vilas was the best player. Was it political because Connors was far more sellable than Vilas?

    Just like Delpo is not nearly as sellable as Fed and Rafa?
     
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    Serious question, did the ATP exist in 77?
     
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    Yes, it's very unfair and very strange. It would be so simple to say : ok, Vilas was the real number one in 1977.
     
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    Great clip. Was struck by how his shoes looked like slippers. Ouch!
     
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    Wasn't it a matter of earning more points in whatever system they had set up at the time? I wouldn't think it would have been left up to an arbitrary decision.
     
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    ATP was founded in 1972
     
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    Thanks, I wasn't sure
     
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