hitting deep into the baseline
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energy-101
New User
Ok, seriously someone needs to answer this becuse I want to know, lol
J011yroger
Talk Tennis Guru
Yes, it is one of the most important things in all of tennis, keeping the ball deep. I preach it to all of my juniors, and adults. Power is worthless without depth. I find that a lot of my junior players who want to get more stick on the ball sacrifice depth for power, which is worthless. You can have the best forehands in the world, but if they are landing inside the service box, they are worthless (Not talking about angles). When someone is deep, they can't hurt you, when you get the pace and topspin that will allow you to hit through the court, you will be forcing your opponents back back back, and opening up more court for yourself, and increasing the likelyhood of getting a short ball in return. You can beat a lot of people, just by keeping the ball deep and in play.
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p0w3r
Semi-Pro
In my opinion, if you hit hard, then yes it is good to have deep shots since it keeps them back and on the defense most of the time. It also opens up more windows for you since you can use drop shots or angles more sucessfully since you are keeping them far back. However, you cant just hit deep in one direction...you still got to move them around.
J011yroger
Talk Tennis Guru
If you are talking about a drop shot, or a nasty short chip then lob ok, but once you get up to a certain level a normal short groundstroke is gonna get you in trouble. Most advanced players know how to punish short balls, and will either whip a clean winner, or hurt you with a 1-2 and pick off the volley. In beginner/intermediate play, if you can just keep the ball deep, you will be in good shape, unless you can be real sure of them not reaching your dropper, or get an opening to go for a winner.
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J011yroger
Talk Tennis Guru
With the new racquets and poly strings, the pros hit so hard that anything 1-2 feet past the service line is deep enough, and gives margin enough for error. How many shots do you hit long per match? How many shots do the pros hit long? And when the pros hit long how long is it? That is the poly strings, they pretty much take hitting long out of the equasion. It is rare to see a pro hit a ball more than a foot out. Yea, I understand that they are better than us, and that is part of the reason, but the other half is the poly, where when you hit long, you have to take a BIGGER swing at the ball to bring it down.
travlerajm
Talk Tennis Guru
Then why don't you just use poly string? You'll never have to worry about hitting long ever again. Yeah right.
Actually, I do believe technology is a factor, but the strings are only a small part of it. I'd say that the modern pro racquet weight distribution is many times more important than the type of string.
J011yroger
Talk Tennis Guru
J011yroger
Talk Tennis Guru
Yup Yup, Murray is someone you can learn a great deal by watching, he doesn't have any great weapons, or do any one thing awesomely, but is very successful. He changes paces and spins well, rarely gives an opponent the same ball twice, which makes it tough to get into a groove against. There are a great deal of rec players who could learn from this.
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Bagumbawalla
G.O.A.T.
In one sense we can answer this fairly easily. Hitting deep is not a bad thing.
But like about 90% of the questions, here, thre is a lot of information ommited that could be helpful in answering you in a way that could benefit you more.
Though hitting deep is considered good. Not having the ability to control the depth/placement of your shots is considered very-- not good.
So, it would help to know your grip, swing style, level of experience, lessons you may have had, how often you play, asperations for the future of your game, general fitness/athletic ability and knowledge of overall tennis tactics and strategies.
Some of this information could help us determine the causes of your weaknesses and help us make suggestions as to how you could control your shots better, drills you might practice, and so forth.
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But like about 90% of the questions, here, thre is a lot of information ommited that could be helpful in answering you in a way that could benefit you more.
Though hitting deep is considered good. Not having the ability to control the depth/placement of your shots is considered very-- not good.
So, it would help to know your grip, swing style, level of experience, lessons you may have had, how often you play, asperations for the future of your game, general fitness/athletic ability and knowledge of overall tennis tactics and strategies.
Some of this information could help us determine the causes of your weaknesses and help us make suggestions as to how you could control your shots better, drills you might practice, and so forth.
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i use SW grip, im looking into changing to western but i think it puts too much strain on my wrist
level of experience.. haha. oh dear
i slaughtered a 3 week tennis camp i went to, was like federer there.. but thats not really accurate seeing as it was 6 years ago when i was 11.. havent touched tennis since then, up until 3 weeks ago.. but i still have my stroke going pretty decent, backhand needs work.. serve is kinda dodgy but im working on it
and i only play socially atm.. looking into training but i really dont have time for coaching with college starting next week
and playing style, i prefer serve n volley
thats my tennis life in a nutshell
Bagumbawalla
G.O.A.T.
OK, For now, I would agree- stay away from the western grip until you have arms like Nadal.
A SW grip is a better choice. Now here come the paradox. Normally, a SW grip causes a stroke pattern that produces plenty of topspin. Topspin brings the ball back down into the opposite court (often around mid to 3/4 court), seldom to the baseline UNLESS you are hitting a sort of loopy "moonball".
I suspect that you are doing a lot of "brushing up" while hitting the ball, but not hitting THROUGH the ball solidly enough.
When you have time, practice against a wall until you begin to feel the ball SOLIDLY on your racket at contact, stroke THROUGH the ball low to high (about 45 degrees).
Once you begin to feel the ball solidly on your strings, you can vary the depth and spin of the ball by hitting through it at a flatter or steeper angle.
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A SW grip is a better choice. Now here come the paradox. Normally, a SW grip causes a stroke pattern that produces plenty of topspin. Topspin brings the ball back down into the opposite court (often around mid to 3/4 court), seldom to the baseline UNLESS you are hitting a sort of loopy "moonball".
I suspect that you are doing a lot of "brushing up" while hitting the ball, but not hitting THROUGH the ball solidly enough.
When you have time, practice against a wall until you begin to feel the ball SOLIDLY on your racket at contact, stroke THROUGH the ball low to high (about 45 degrees).
Once you begin to feel the ball solidly on your strings, you can vary the depth and spin of the ball by hitting through it at a flatter or steeper angle.
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MrCLEAN
Rookie
Generally yes, but if they're grooved from back there, anything you can do to mix it up is not a bad idea too. Some times against guys that don't move really well, I'll sort of chip one short and low (not so short that they would come in though) just to make them have to move up a bit and hit up on the ball. It's good for giving me a sitter to drill on the next shot.
