Hitting Forehands(Inside/out )?

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  1. James Reed

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    What is meant by the term hitting the ball (forehand) inside to out? I believe it has something to do with adding topspin.
     
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  2. Rickson

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    No, not at all. Inside out can be hit with slice, flat, or topspin. Inside out simply means hitting the ball the opposite way so if you're right handed, an inside out forehand goes to the right, and an inside out backhand for a righty would go to the left.
     
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  3. Bungalo Bill

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    Inside our shots have a combination of meanings.

    It also means reversing your position from viewing the inside of the ball to moving around it in a "C" arc to hit the outside of the ball to the opposite direction. Usually this is done to hit the ball back to the backhand side.
     
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  4. Camilio Pascual

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    Somebody with an especially good FH and weak BH would tend to use this shot. A disadvantage is that you can leave too much court open against a d-t-l return shot. Watch Roddick, he hits a lot of inside out FH's.
     
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  5. kevhen

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    Inside out means you are hitting forehands from the backhand side of the court or vice versa. If you have a great forehand, you may run around your backhand and hit the forehand hard crosscourt to the right corner or maybe even at a sharper angle for a winner or to force an error.
     
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  6. GrahamIsSuper

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    To do an inside out, run around a backhand and hit it forhand, hitting along the left side of the ball to get the necessary angle.

    They're great to keep the pressure on someone's backhand.
     
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  7. Bungalo Bill

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    That is not true. It is a tactical move every player should eventually master. Also, some people will hit it with a backhand (especially twohanders) but it is performed mainly with the forehand.

    Also, from a court position view, you really don't want to do this when you're on the defensive two thirds of the court. In other words, if you divide the court in three lengthwise, the more the ball is hit to the corner or the sidelines the more defensive you want to play. An inside-out move at this time would be considered a low percentage play from a positioning view. Or it could be considered a shot selection error if they lose the point.

    Since the inside out shot is an offensive shot, you want to perform this shot in the middle third of the court to the backhand or to open the court with an aggressive placement. Usually this is followed to the net.
     
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  8. kevhen

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    Roddick will hit it from his defensive side but hit his forehand so hard he will get a weak reply from the opponent's backhand. If the opponent tries to hit up the line they will still often return weak or will hit it wide as they try to change directions on a hard ball. Even I can hit from the defensive side effectively, hitting a sharp angled low forehand slice that carries off the court and stays low so I usually get a weak reply as well. So I am not sure why you can't hit these from any place on the court. You do leave alot of open court behind you so you need to hit a fairly aggressive shot.

    I used to hit inside out on my backhand side when I was more comfortable putting away balls this way.

    The best player though is a balanced player on both sides who doesn't need to run around for anything in my opinion. But I still have a weakness for slow balls on my backhand side so that is why I will run around slow incoming balls and hit them with my forehand.
     
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  9. Bungalo Bill

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    Ahh yes you can hit an inside out forehand from the defensive sides of the court. But! You failed to include some things!

    Roddick uses it to hit to an open court, otherwise, it would be a poor shot selection and a risky one as the pros are very quick and can rip it back up the line!!! End result, Roddick is now on the run and has a high chance to give a weak reply.

    If you have the open court and your previous balls have set you up in such away that the opponent has lost time in his recovery moves, then yes, tag the sucker with an inside out forehand, either with a short sharp angle or deep with speed. If you miss it, dont fret, it was not a shot selection error. It just means you need to practice the stroke more.

    If your opponent recovered and then you try it from the defensive sides of the court, that is a risky move because of the amount of court you're leaving open. In other words, you better hit it good!
     
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  10. TwistServe

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    There a great book called "Think to win" that outlines some patterns and draws movement pictures of why the premature DTL shoot selection could be really costly.. Really nice to see it visually drawn.
     
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  11. kreative

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    courier was the master of the inside out forehand!
     
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  12. Bungalo Bill

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    Yeah he also died with it as well! A short lived career. Many comentators/tennis experts felt he was under developed as a player relying to heavily on the inside out forehand. Some blame his coaching. Others blame Courier for not insisting to develop his game better.

    Courier also had to stay in excellent shape because leaving that much court open at the pro level is a difficult task.
     
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  13. Agent Smith

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    Umm if you hit a forehand DTL from the backahnd side would it be called an inside-in forehand?
     
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    yeah, I think that is called an inside-in forehand. The pros like Roddick use that quite a bit too as the opponent is expecting the inside-out crosscourt shot and then they hit the inside forehand up the line for a winner.

    I think Pressure Tennis by Paul Wardlaw explains these type of shots.
     
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