Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by Roger is Boring, Feb 18, 2007.
i'm loving it
almost as good as nadel free week
It's boring without him:-(
XD (10 char.)
I love that Nadel guy, there are rumors he's Nadal's secret twin brother separated at birth
Federer not playing is the best thing in the universe. I hope the boring and annoying Federer retires from tennis as soon as possible.
Not a Federer hater here, but . . .
I have to admit: it's nice to see tournaments where you can't predict the winner beforehand.
Good catch! I missed it.
As for the week being "Federer free," it was nice.
I enjoyed it too. It's nice to see the inferiors get to take home some hardware.( That doesn't have "runner-up" on it.)
Yeah, they can take comfort in the fact that the wins of their collective careers are forever marked by Roger not being around! Real champs!!
We'll just have to enjoy FED more when he plays ....
i just hope that the day will come that somebody else will win a tournament with the federer in it. but in the rate it is going, i might have to wait couple of years. so in the mean time i am joining the celebration of federer's free week= or battle of the palukas!!!
I was enjoying TW until you made this thread.
I am sure the thought that he won the tournament because Federer was not playing has crossed the winner's mind.
Without Rafa and Roger it was almost BBBOOOORRRRRRIIIIIING!
It was just not there - quality wise. Andy M and Andy R were fun but not as fun as Rafa or Roger. Safin did not have a good week - another minus.
I still have to give it to Andy M, he is a very good player and he does show his emotions, something that suits him well.
another glorious week of no federer tennis
time to celebrate
Yah. At least Nadal isn't playing at Miami. n__n
It's shameful, though; you guys are enjoying Federer-free weeks because that means when Nadal plays there's nobody who could give him an ABSOLUTE SCHOOLING.
Where can I see Federer for free this week?!!
It's odd, I click my rss feeds, and no mention of Federer kicking butt. Very odd.
Pretty pathetic that someone enjoys a Federer free week. Watching Federer is watching tennis as good as it has never been played before, why would someone not want to watch that, even if you are a Nadal fan.. I think all of us first of all are tennisfans, and then we have a favorite tennisplayer, but hating someone is pretty pathetic in my opinion. I'm a Federer fan because I think that he plays the most beautifull tennis I've seen, but when Nadal is playing I'm very glad too when it is televised, just because it is great to watch men's tennis.
Watching Federer is like watching the grass grow. You know the results so why bother. A Feder-less tournament equals excitement knowing everyone has a chance.
So as a Nadal fan (judging by your name), are you bored when you watch Nadal on clay because you know what the result is going to be?
So for you a NADAL-less tournament on clay quals more excitement knowing everyone has a chance?
I don't think the matches are decided on clay for Nadal like they are on hard and grass for Federer. Nadal gets challenged and almost lost at Rome. Nadal had a big struggle with Mathieu at the French Open. I definitely don't feel secure with Nadal always winning on clay.
despite the fact that nadal has a longer winning streak on clay than federer does on hard (grass too?). makes a lot of sense.
federer has played many close matches. saved match points vs olivier rochus at halle. and vs roddick in shanghai. played a 7-6 7-6 7-6 match vs ljubicic last year in miami final.
so you wouldn't watch if nadal plays fish on clay? that result isn't really in doubt.
if the result is all that matters, why watch at all? could just look at scores.
result is always in doubt. graf once lost in 1st round of wimbledon.
I just cannot understand these comments. It's like watching grass grow? I'm a self-confessed Fedfan. The reason I'm a fan is because of his great tennis - how can all those wonderful shots, clever tactics, great movement be compared to watching your lawn get too long? I just don't get it.
As for its being a foregone conclusion that he'll win, well I just don't buy that. He does lose, not very often, but now and again. If people are so anxious to see him lose, surely they should keep watching - it's going to happen sooner or later. Why turn off the tele and stand a chance of missing it! And, as others have said, surely Nadal is far more of a lock on clay than Federer is on other surfaces. Why is that not like watching grass grow too - even more so, actually, bearing in the mind the monotonous grind that is the typical claycourt match?
I agree too. I've just watched the match between Djokovic and Robredo at Rotterdam. It wasn't lights out tennis, but it was very entertaining.
Tennis for me seems to be a sport where every individual is totally different. Some are very interesting to watch (Nadal and Agassi) and some are very boring. (Federer and Sampras) I've tried to watch the Federer and when Sampras played but it put me to sleep. A players personality is important to keep the game exciting as well.
I'm not in the mood for Roger to be the best ever but I cannot deny the magic of his game; he hits shots I've never seen before and may not see again.
About Federer being boring... You know I never realized why I didn't enjoy watching his matches that much. Watching him completely dismantle yet another player isn't exactly riveting. Some matches are good (ie 1st 3 sets of USOpen final '06), some are boring (like every match he had at the AO). You know, it's not his fault, he just decimates most opponents. And for the people who say its artistry or perfection or whatever metaphor you want to use: Watching a robot build a car is watching something perform to perfection, but it doesn't make it FUN TO WATCH.
I would hardly liken Federer to a robot. There is a lovely organic quality to his game ... you're never quite sure what he'll do, and he often changes tactics several times over the course of a match even if he's clearly winning. He seems to enjoy 'going with the flow' and defying expectations, as opposed to guys like Lendl and Sampras who had go-to strategies they employed against virtually anyone. Federer plays almost perfect tennis at times. Perfect because it is both effective AND unpredictable.
My feeling is that if you don't like watching Federer, you don't really like tennis.
The fact that he plays perfect tennis reinforces the idea that the outcome is decided beforehand. When a player has complete control of the match 98% of the time, against 98% of his opponents, it's just not AS fun to watch. For example, I haven't recently seen any match of his (except maybe on clay) that have had the emotion and/or momentum changes as the Blake Agassi '05 match at the USOpen.
Hmm... well at least we haven't sunk to name calling.
Pardon the expression ... I don't expect everyone to be a Federer 'fan.' Yet I find it odd that people wish Federer weren't around so that we'd see closer matches. For me, a close match doesn't necessarily mean a high-quality match. Often close matches are simply tedious and, IMO, MORE boring than a beat-down where you get to see some beautiful shots. What I appreciate most about Federer is that he forces others to play to the max in order to even have a shot at him. Think about it: most of the 'classic' matches of the past 2-3 years have been Federer's losses! Safin in Australia (2005), Nalbandian at the Masters Cup (2005), Nadal in Rome (2006) ... Plus Federer's straight-set victory over Nadal at the Masters Cup last year was a breathtaking match, even if it wasn't close per se.
I'm much more excited about watching tennis when Federer's involved, b/c it means he's going to force the opponent to throw everything at him. If the two players involved are, say, Davydenko and Robredo, then regardless how close the match is, it's probably not going to be too terribly exciting.
I am going to make a completely baseless guess here, but I would be willing to bet money that the televised popularity of tennis has decreased due to the complete lopsidedness of these tournaments. People want to see drama, human-like behavior they can relate to. Yes, you can watch Federer trounce through a draw without dropping a set, exclaiming every 15 minutes of match time, "Wow, that shot was unbelievable! (fill in opponent here) doesn't even have a chance!" Or you could watch a match where you don't know the outcome beforehand, and maybe see something unexpected happen. To each his own.
I'm not really enjoying it.
Federer being on a different planet in terms of play literally devalues any tournament without him. He is making these tournaments look like junior tournaments in terms of prestige.
Once Federer's decline starts (and yes, unfortunately it will start in the next year or two), these non-Federer tournaments will seem better.
Television ratings have declined b/c 'good' tennis does not appeal to the average TV viewer. Most do not give a damn about seeing shotmaking artistry unfold over the course of a match. They look for the same cheap thrills you describe: 'who's gonna win' is all that matters. (Well, personalities and nationalities matter too.) The same satisfaction can be reached by watching a little league baseball game, or even by not watching sports at all and just checking scores online.
To the connoisseur, tennis is about more than who wins and loses. It's why aficionados still talk about McEnroe's 6-1, 6-1, 6-2 win over Connors in the 1984 Wimbledon final as a 'great' and highly memorable match.
i'll admit you've got guts to come up with this username and to start such a thread.
i wouldn't want to risk being flammed...
though i don't think such a thread should be started, it's like wanting to pick a fight with other members which isn't why we're here for.
vamos willy gave us another federer free week
feder free rome
I'm hating it!
I think the posters here who claim to hate Federer should admit that the matches they get into the most are Fed's matches; they love to hate him.
What is all this talk of watching fed play for free, where? what site?
but nothing is better than a roger is boring free week!
Federer lost...Big deal... He won all other tournaments and dominated because he is capable of that and the competition couldnt handle him.
I enjoyed his game. He is entertainin. Its not his fault that others couldnt handle him (enough)
So "Roger is boring", will you continue the new user trend by creating a user called "Roger is boring is boring is boring"?
Lovely pattern, it's so predictable, I'm enjoying it!
from all these posts it is safe to conclude that all nadal fans enjoy a fed free week due to fear of losing if he is around and not because ''roger is boring" on the other hand some fed fans dont really care for the beauty or grace of his game just as long as "the fed express steamrolls everybody.Both sets display alot of human tendency-especially in sports fans.
The desire to get fulfillment and satisfaction from other peoples achievements.
Its not really about "fed free weeks" is it?
Nothing was predictable. Whatever Federer has won he has won based on hard work and the high quality of his game. Every match was a test. I'm amazed at how people are convinced that he magically stormed his way through tournaments and everything was "predictable and boring".
It's quite a pathetic viewpoint.
It's nice! I like! Great success!
Roger is boring is getting off on this. Watch it guys.
actually it's now easier to predict the winner than before he lost.
Before it was: Nadal probably, but Federer might just pull it off.
Now it's: Nadal definitely
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