How did this guy make DI?

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  1. DownTheLine

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    He made it to D1 didn't he? He apparently is good enough. No need to hate on him just because you don't like his style of play.
     
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    I am not hating on his style of play. I am just wondering how did he make it to DI making stupid mistakes and not even being close to the caliber of other players
     
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    Dude, USF might be a D1 school, but I doubt it gets the level of tennis players that a USC (or UCLA/Stanford/Cal for that matter) gets. That guy Tu just doesn't appear to have any big weapons and he played a guy that has solid strokes and an attacking style of play. Tu Losing 2 & 3 is about what I'd expect to see.
     
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    I think he looks like a D1 player. I'm betting he'd whip the pants off you love and love.

    The guy who beat him - Bradley Klahn (who seemed quite a bit better) was forcing many errors and thus Tu didn't look as good as he actually is. Tu's 2HBH is solid as a rock... and his forehand/serve are also decent. The other guy just simply out-powered him... again, forcing many of the errors and the 'substandard' play you observed.
     
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    Bradley Klahn vs Jelena Jankovic

    Here's the same guy playing Jankovic at the Bank of the West Classic

    This is Stanford's #1 having his ass handed to him by a WTA woman.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2-K1NsbuPA

    He's ranked #52 nationally... this should answer any questions about how an elite WTA player stacks up against a top D1 college player :oops:
     
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    Jankovic looks like a beast ni that videwo, owned him
     
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    Yeah... and just imagine she probably wasn't giving it 100% while the college guy was.
     
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    I think that this thread suggests you aren't good enough to be posting on the message board.
     
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    This player that DTL thinks isn't good enough for D-I had an overall winning record throughout his college career ending up 56-34 in duals and 74-45 overall. His last 2 years at school he played #1 going 26-17. Pretty darned respectable...
     
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    No that's there #2. Alex Clayton is the #1. You guys misunderstood. I am not calling him bad, I am just saying it seems like he is no where near a DI tennis player. He gave Brad way to many short balls and Tu didn't force almost any errors except for maybe 3 the other 2 or so were unforced.

    I've seen many DI, DII, and DIII players and IMO he should be DII.
     
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    Watch it carefully. Bradley was just playing around with her, Sparring....making her feel good if you will...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2-K1NsbuPA&NR=1
     
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    Don't knock Tommy. he is a very good player. just ran into the superior D1 player, that is all. This happens more often than you think... Top 10 D1 player can blow away another D1 player ranked outside of 100.

    For example, if Alex Clayton played Greg Hirshman, he would beat him with score like 6-2 6-2. and greg is a top 100 player in D1.:)
     
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    I'm not calling him bad. He's a good play but not compared to DI.
     
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    How can you say this guy is not D1?

    His career record at USF is 58-35 in singles against other D1 players. The guy is the only 2nd player ever from USF (lower level D1) to have a top #100 nationally ranking. Klahn is just a better player than him. Here's a deep thought: When you play somebody a lot better than you, they make you look bad.
     
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    Your right. Delete Thread!
     
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    Here's some fun facts for you for this player you think should be D2

    1. West Region Farnsworth/ITA Senior Player of the Year,
    2. Career high national ranking in D1 #95 in singles , #87 in doubles
    3. Split sets with Pepperdine's #1 ranked in the top 10 nationally in a 2008 match

    Yeah he sucks, he should have moved down to D2. USF wasted their scholie on him letting play in their #1 spot. :roll:
     
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    The video stated #1 singles.
     
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    Lol! She had him running around the court like a jackrabbit. He was missing so many balls, he looked like a noob out there, playing her.

    Email him and ask him how good she actually was... and what the score was between them (I'd be interested to hear it). I've seen his videos and I've seen Jankovic play... she can and did wipe the floor with him.

    Based on that video, she'd have beaten him 6-0, 6-0.
     
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    Hes definately a D1 player. Khlan is one of the top players in the country. Hard to look good when your getting worked.
     
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    Some people don't seem to understand that when you're playing someone who is a level above you... they can make you look pretty silly.

    Look what Jankovic did to Klahn in that video I posted earlier. I think he got 1 point in the entire clip... and that was off a Jankovic UE (long ball).
     
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    He's a local guy in the area. His level of play is very similar to recent players on USF's squad. I see him play on a regular basis. He's made a couple 5.0 level players in the area look like garbage. It's a not a mistake he's good enough for USF. Khlan is a VERY high level player. It's not fair that you've posted an edited video on a public forum and put him on blast.
     
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    Whos the best D1 player? PLZ ANSWER
     
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    He was kidding. I think. Brad is there #2 look it up.
     
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    Was Devin Brittion.
     
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    It showed every point for what 7 games?
     
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    Have you ever seen Tony Larson? He's on this board by the name of Tonlars. He would have worked this guy and he played DII.

    http://vimeo.com/3231513

    http://vimeo.com/3231428
     
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    I will do that. I never said I was close to DI.
     
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    Oh and don't forget that it was very windy that day...
     
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    Your whole argument is USELESS. He has a winning record 52-33.

    You can critique the video all you want. You can drop other players' names etc...but Tommy is above .500 so your points won't help your cause to prove to us that he was a "stupid mistake."

    Not all D-1 schools are the same level. So USF chose well with someone who has been winning. My JUCO women's team have wins over D-1 schools btw. I think your argument should focus on the wide range of levels in D-1 as whole. Not one particular player.
     
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    I have seen his videos. Tony Larson is a better player now than when he was in college from his posts. I would say the college version of Tony Larson would not beat Tommy Tu and would probably lose in straight sets. Any way the more you post, the more you show you don't know. The fact is Tommy Tu was a D1 player, played #1 on his team and was pretty dang good. Was he as good as the top players in the Pac 10- no, but that does not take away from the fact he was a very good D1 player.
     
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    Good post, I think maybe the original poster should challenge the player to a match and we can make a pool here to help pay the flight for him to go meet him. If he beats him then he has bragging rights.
     
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    If you are not close to D1 or ever played at that level how can you evaluate some over a few mins in a youtube video and determine his worthiness. It reminds me of this guy making fun of some 3.5's that didn't move very well at our club then I watch the exact same guy play the next day. He blasted every first serve five feet past the line and just tapped in the 2nd serve. The next week on men's night I watched the very same 3.5 players smoke this young guy off the court.
     
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    Then why do people critise pros on this board?
     
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    Have you ever read some of those posts. 99 percent of the time they have no idea what they are talking about.
     
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    I have seen Tony Larson play, he is great player!

    Could Tony Larson beat Bradley Klahn?
     
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    Ask Tony, himself, whether he thinks he can beat him. He posts on the board regularly.
     
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    Do you know what the actual scores were? The only problem I have with this video is that it is very short and edited. You could make either player look good or bad with something like this. If you took the Tommy Tu video and only showed the games he won, you might think he were the better player based on that.
     
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    First point, division isnt really that important in tennis. Tennis is an individual sport, and theres plenty of players in the smaller divisions who would be top division 1 players, and plenty of division 1 players who wouldnt make some smaller division teams' lineups. Second, this guy is a good player, not amazing, but solid. In the clip he is playing a very good player.
    Yep Ive still been improving every year, Im much better now than I was in college. In my junior and senior years of college though, I was good enough to beat this guy if I played well, I beat players those years in open tournaments that were ranked higher than him.
    Thanks! Klahn is really tough, not really much difference between him and Stanford's #1 Alex Clayton. I played Alex this summer and was up a break in the third set, but lost unfortunately. I think we would have a good match and Id have a good chance to win, but he likely is the better player.
     
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    this guy is a very good player.. not suprised with his ranking
     
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    Hey Tony did you just currently switch to the prestige and ALU POWER? You didn't have niether in the summer.
     
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    Yeah, I guess ive been trying it out. Liked it ok, but started playing with my old racquets again to see a difference and, of course, I was playing a fair amount better with my oldies. I played in Indian wells with my flexpoints but with ALU Power and i still really like the alu so im gunna stick with that, i played really well this weekend out there. Ill try the youtek version of my racquet I think, and either switch to that or just stick with what I already play well with.
     
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    Youtek is the real deal....
     
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    so are you thinking Greg will make it thru the qualies....???
     
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    DTL Fedace was not kidding. You should see some of his other posts. He was dead serious there.:shock:
     
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    the stanford guy is beast.
     
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    Klahn has an ATP rank of 902... Larson isn't ranked.

    Tony... do you play ATP futures or challengers?
     
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    Fair enough, but weren't you a top ranked D2 player?. I would hardly say that you are an average D2 player so the OP's premise is not valid. The top D3 player in the country probably could beat some D1 players, that doesn't mean the players he beats belong at D3.
     
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    Agreed. If you only follow the NCAA championships, then you will only see the top few D1 players; however, there are tons of D1 tennis programs, some of which probably have players that would be rated below 5.0.

    Furthermore, there are plenty of D2/D3 schools with teams or individual players capable of playing at a D1 level, but they happened to choose their respective school for a multitude of other reasons.

    And in that video of Klahn hitting with Jankovic. It's obviously a practice session and he wasn't going all out. A lefty as strong as him wouldn't have too many serves being returned if he was hitting it full strength.
     
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