How did we ever go from this to THIS????

Discussion in 'Pros' Racquets and Gear' started by BreakPoint, Aug 30, 2006.

  1. couch

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    Breakpoint, along with your racquets you're still stuck in the 70's with your clothing choices too aren't you. :D
     
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  2. tennis-skater

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    i have that oufit i love it im 15 its a lot more in style. so when i see my friends they dont get the idea that its like it looks like in movies w/white nuthuggers and a tight polo
     
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  3. chaz_233

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    I hate Nike, they're all about making their players look like buffoons- poor Federer included. A shame that players are willing to become damn billboards- with-rackets for those N-crooks.
     
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    Many of you are creating False Dichotomies. It's not between only "this extreme" or "that extreme" and you must choose. There are plenty of Middle choices.

    I don't like Nadal's pajama pants or the "gangsta gear." I didn't like -- and still don't -- Pete's extra baggy, extra long shorts.
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    I'd like to think you thought you were being clever. But I object to you characterizing my generation (the Arthur Ashe Generation, BTW ... post-Althea Gibson) by the underlined portion of your quote.

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  5. BreakPoint

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    No not at all. I buy lots of new tennis clothes from Nike, Adidas, Reebok, Fila, Tacchini, Lotto, etc. every year that are the latest styles, just not anything like what Nadal and Monfils are wearing though.
     
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    I know, I was only kidding. It's probably hard to find those nuthuggers like Borg and McEnroe wore back in the day anyway.

    I'm with you though, the older I get the worse some of the clothes look. I like to think I'm somewhat hip for being 36 but some of those giddyups for tennis are too much for me.
     
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    that black and white picture at the top is the definition of class!
     
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  8. Chang

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    What's wrong with Monfils outfit. There's no specific way to dress for tennis. It's 2006 not 1970's
     
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  9. Brooklyn_bum

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    Hey, basketball players used to wear "nuthuggers" too until Jordan came along.

    Anyways, it's not just the baggy shorts. It's *everything* combined: the colors, the baggy clothes, the rude fans. I started playing tennis back in high school cause all the jock meatheads played football or basketball. I'd rather not have the sport lose its roots.

    I understand that clothing silouhettes change from time to time but tennis players should maintain some style that makes them look like tennis players not basketball players. Every sport should have it's own unique way of dress to distinguish it from other sports. Even those shoes look like basketball shoes.
     
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  10. BreakPoint

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    I guess you've never played at a "nice" tennis club then. ;) I also don't think you would ever catch Federer wearing huge bright red shorts and a bright red muscle shirt in a match, and I'd say Federer is the definition of class. Besides, the bright red clothes clashes with green courts and/or green perimeter of courts.

    Perhaps another reason why tennis was more popular in the '70's than it is today - the fashions were better. :eek: ;)
     
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    this thread has made me chuckle quite a bit. and so i will cut and paste something i said in a similar thread, just to put my two cents in:

    "i just don't understand why nike is determined to make tennis players look like they're going out to play full-court basketball. i'm not against progress, and i know that fashions change . . . but i want to look like a baller when i'm hoopin' it up. and i want to look like a tennis stud when i go play tennis.

    in an attempt to be hip and cool, tennis is losing its way a little, its identity. the key to being cool is not to try so hard."
     
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    Do you still ware the old nutters ? The new stuff is much better and im 33 yrs old. I think Agassi's shorts are way to short , they look dorky.
     
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  13. Brooklyn_bum

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    It's not that they're too short. His ankles are too skinny and he wears ankle socks so his legs look funny.

    If he wore tube socks it probably wouldn't look so short.
     
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    you're so dumb....tennis is losing it's identity? Through CLOTHING? If anything you should be complaining about the challenge system and the thought of future on court coaching, then the actual sport is changing. As for the change in clothes, since when have clothes stayed the same throughout time? You want to look like a baller when you're hoopin it up? sounds to me like youre a big poser who needs to dress the part cause u cant play it.
     
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    Personally, I never really liked the outfits from the 70's. However, when you saw soomeone wearing them they were immediately associated with tennis. In other words, they represented tennis.

    I think the stuff today does not have any character or personality--it could be asscoiated with basketball, work out, or gangsta....

    The outfit Monfils is wearing, referred to in this post makes him look like he just got off a basketball court and stole someones tennis racquet.

    Nadal and his clam diggers are also just as horrible, IMO.
     
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  16. Dolfan

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    They are well above the knee .
     
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    In my club they still have an old sign in the club house that say's no JAM'S allowed on court .
     
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    Bold words from a guy who prefers girly short shorts. :D
     
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    Yep, "Thugwear."
     
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    I bet that the same ppl that are posting negative coments about Monfils also hate the way Serena and venus dress! However they could carless that Sharapova wasnt wearing the all white full ball type dress during her night match. Do you see what im getting at, ppl have different styles largely influenced by there culture and upbringing. It should not matter what they dress like until there is a rule passed banning a particlar type of clothing.


    OPEN YOUR EYES, AND STEP OUT OF THE BOXES YOU PPL LIVE IN. TIMES
    CHANGE AND PPL AREN'T THE SAME!

    P.S. I think it was the 2nd or 3rd post, the one about the basketball attire. That was by far the most stereotypical thing ive seen today, Congratz!
     
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  21. BreakPoint

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    How would you know what kind of shorts I wear? Have you seen me in them? I just think the stuff that Borg wore and Federer wears looks a lot nicer and more elegant than the stuff that Monfils and Nadal wears. You can't even buy those short shorts anymore even if you wanted to.

    BTW, I wear these shorts:

    http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpageMANIKE-NMN9SS.html#

    http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpageMANIKE-NMN9BAS.html#

    http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpageMAADIDAS-AMFRS9S.html

    http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpageMAADIDAS-AMSRS9S.html

    Mostly in white, black, navy or grey, but NEVER in bright shocking red.
     
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    I actually really like what nadal and monfils are wearing, its good that not everybody wears the same, and im sorry but saying that the clothes are "gangsta clothes" is a load of crap, just because the shorts are baggy.....?? But in all fairness to the slightly older people in this forum i do believe these clothes are for a younger audience. Just because he is wearing something different does not mean hes not wearing tennis gear, as someone said they're basketball clothes(not taking a dig at whoever said that), i would understand if he was to underperform with those clothes because then he would be stupid to wear them, but they probably slightly enhance his play so no1 can really complain.
     
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    JAMS? Nice.
     
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  24. Midlife crisis

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    Did you notice that in the only two of those pictures where the players are returning a shot and the ball is moving, that neither of them, though they grew up with wood racquets and should have learned to watch the ball oh-so-closely, are looking anywhere near the contact point?
     
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  25. nadalito92

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    dude sleveless shirts are comfortable so shut up and wear whatever you like, besides, nadal's style of shirt is like wide, i mean, it covers the shoulders, if you compare it to a basketball shirt you see all the shoulder exposed, and i like the black outfit nadal is using at the USO i might buy it
     
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  26. BreakPoint

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    Yes, I did. That's why I chose to post these pics to show that none of these guys are as good as Federer is. ;) LOL
     
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  27. Janne

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    Whoa there! Everyone's allowed to state their opinions, right? Nothing wrong with liking a certain style of clothes! :p
     
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    I'd pick Monfils basketball outfit over the pansy Borg outfit anyday.
     
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    Well, that's why you'll never win 5 Wimbledons in a row. ;) LOL
     
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  30. War Safin!

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    So, the penny drops: Monfils outfit is 'basketball' and 'hip' and 'gangsta' and therefore a sign of 'maculinity', yet Borg's trendsetter (and everyone bought Fila shirts from that point onwards....) is 'pansy'?

    I see your reasoning clearly now...
     
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  31. tangies08

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    can any of you be any more racist. ok tell the black guy to go play basketball with those clothes. being a black person myself i am actually offended by this thread and comments and i am not sensitive to this issue at all
     
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    I actually think Breakpoint didnt intend for people to be offended. It's not Monfils alone, any tennis player these days looks pretty ridiculous compared to the oldies.
     
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    C.R.E.A.M, why not just look like Cap'n Kirk and wear a ridiculous sportcoat?
     
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    I LOL-ed

    honestly, that's pretty funny, monfil's expression along with his splits
     
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    Agreed.......drakulie's post with Buckwheat made me want to puke. Some people on the board are pretty ignorant.
     
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    Too bad you didn't puke. Maybe I should have posted Don Kings as well.
     
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  37. BreakPoint

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    Sorry that you were offended. As I and several others have already stated, this has NOTHING at all to do with race. It has to do with how some of these pros are dressed. It applies to ANY pro who dresses like this, and I did cite Nadal as being another guy that wears these ridiculous clothes to play tennis in. My opinion is that ANYONE who dresses like Monfils and Nadal would fit in better on a basketball court than they would on a tennis court, based SOLELY on the way they're dressed, whether they're white, black, brown, yellow, blue, pink, it doesn't matter.

    Frankly, I think you're being a bit too overly sensitive. Chill out, man. :D
     
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    I knew it!!!!!!!! after seeing your picture with the paid women it finally came to me. You're Flounder from the movie Animal House!!! Great job in that movie, dude.
     
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  39. nadalito92

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    dude i dont know why you say sleveless shirts are ridiculous, try playing with one you will see you can move a lot better your arms, and i guarantee it, i have the shirt nadal used at RG 2005 but white, 2 adidas sleveless and thats what i use for the gym and tennis, but thats off topic, what i mean is, i respect your opinion, you want to keep the classic style or something, but i dont see anything ridiculous in the shirts, and the serena outfit in that picture, ok i cant say anything about that, but still its just clothes man, sleveless are comfortable, while normal shirts are too, but not as much as sleveless, i have many normal shirts for tennis and i only use them when the sleveless ones are dirty and smell, and what about agassi's shirts he used a long time ago, all fluorecent and weird, kinda hippie style or something lol, so sleveless is just a style period, if you think its ridiculous it ok, but seriously i dont see why.

    about the shorts, i rather wear baggy shorts than those nut struggling things they used in the old days.
     
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    also, i bet that if federer ever uses a sleveless shirt you'll never say a word, i'm starting to think this is a thread just to encourage the hate to nadal just cause he can beat the number 1 player with "class", i agree tennis is an elegant sport, but you dont have to play in smoking, just look at the players that use normal shirts, always pulling the shirt off their shoulder, look at nadal, he just pulls the pants out of his butt, thats it, no worries and comfortable playing.
     
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  41. BreakPoint

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    Well, because tennis is not supposed to be about showing off your muscles. In my opinion, the sleeveless shirts look more appropriate for the gym or on the basketball court. It's not just about comfort, it's about what's appropriate. If it was just about comfort, why do you bother to wear any shorts at all? I'm sure you'd be more comfortable and can run faster without any shorts on but just in your underwear, right? And wouldn't no shirt at all be even more comfortable than even a sleeveless shirt? Do you see what I mean? BTW, it was more the bright red and black color scheme of Monfils outfit that I found garish than anything else. Whatever happened to "predominately white"?

    BTW, do you remember when Tommy Haas was barred from taking the court and forced to change when he came out wearing a sleeveless shirt at the 2002 US Open? It was because the referee found what he was wearing was inappropriate, in the same way as if he came out onto the court without any shorts on. Of course, the attire rules on the ATP Tour has been relaxed more since then.
     
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  42. BreakPoint

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    Nope, nothing at all to do with who can beat whom or who's #1. If Federer wore what Nadal and Monfils were wearing, I'd call his outfit ridiculous as well. It's about what's been traditionally considered "appropriate" tennis attire.

    BTW, I wouldn't hold my breathe waiting for Federer to come onto center court wearing what Monfils wore in bright red and black. Federer has way too much class to dress that way.
     
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    ok man, but can u just give me 1 good reason to call nadals outfit ridiculous? monfils is all red, but nadal's black, with red shorts, so its not that bright
     
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    That's not what he's saying. I agree with you that their outfit looks more appropriate for basketball than tennis. But he's criticising the way some posters are parsing stereotypes of black people as gang bangers, buckwheat, etc..

    Also, you can't say he's overly sensitive unless you've experienced being the target of racism. I used to work in a racquet club as a teen so I could play indoors. Hated that job. I've overheard plenty of racist jokes in the locker room and was also treated like lower class by the supposedly 'classy' priviledged members. Those guys would probably make the same cracks about Monfils looking like a gangster and how he should go play basketball instead.
     
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    Rene Lacoste must be turning over in his grave right now knowing that Andy Roddick plays tennis with shorts, a shirt with no more than three buttons, and headgear fitting for Honus Wagner. This thread runs the gamut from clothing being too long, too short, or too flashy. Well, times change. I'm sure the old chaps at AELTC (Wimbledon) weren't too happy that one of their champions, Borg, was long-haired, bearded, and wore Fila pinstripes on the hallowed grass. I don't like the idea of being subjected to a tennis UNIFORM like trousers, a button-down long-sleeve shirt, and some stuffy vest. Whether at work, school, or play, the bottom line is never about the look. Image -heh, heh- can only get you so far.
     
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  46. Ronaldo

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    Btw, if the haterade is flowing for the Nike red gear of the day, any thoughts on the UnderArmour gymrat gear Ginepri and Martina wear?
     
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  47. War Safin!

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    And you should judge people here on their opinions of hideous clothing styles and colors and not jump to obvious presumptions.
     
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    There are a lot of immature, perhaps racist people posting in this thread. There is nothing wrong with what he is wearing. I prefer baggy clothes also, it is more comfortable. Maybe Nike is trying to appeal to a different group of people, but by no means is there anything wrong with it. He is not a thug, etc. Grow up guys.
     
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  49. War Safin!

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    That's cos specific posters can't wait for the slightest angle with which to play the 'race-card'.
    It's as pathteic as racism itself.
     
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    See what I mean? :rolleyes:
     

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