How do they conduct the draw at a major?

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  1. auburnlull

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    Is there a lottery system that is weighted by ranking or is it purely based on ranking alone?
    Do different tournaments have different systems?
    Do 1 and 2 seed ever end up in the same half of a draw?
    Having started watching pro tennis recently I have quickly realized that match ups are a huge factor.
    Pardon my ignorance about this subject and thanks for any info.
     
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  2. egn

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    1 +2 )I believe all majors outside of wimbledon follow atp ranking system and there is some randomization in seeding but I am not sure of how it works.
    3) Never but it is random on if 1 or 2 faces 3 or 4 but 1 and 2 will never be in the same half.
     
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  3. THERAFA

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    How do they decide which side of the draw plays on:
    Day
    One?
     
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  5. Max G.

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    The rules for seeding and making GS draws start on page 24 of the ITF rulebook.
    I tried copying them here but the formatting got all messed up and unreadable.
     
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  6. LanceStern

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    Number 1 and Two are always in opposite halves, playing unseeded players for the first round or two in big tournaments. Same with #3 and #4.

    But that's about all I know about this
     
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  7. luckyboy1300

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    there are 32 seeds in a major based on rankings, except wimbledon which has its own seed determination. they are scattered in the draw such that the top 8 seeds get their own section (there are 8 sections) and the remaining are spread out so no 2 seeds will face in a 1st round match, afaik. number 1 seed is always placed on top of the draw and the 2nd seed bottom. the 3 and 4 seeds are randomly placed on each half of the draw.
     
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  8. THERAFA

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    Is the Australian Open the only slam where one semi gets 2 day break before the final? It impacts heavily the importance of who plays on Day One and who plays on:
    Day
    Two
     
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  9. luckyboy1300

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    the same as the us open is only the slam that does not allow a day off before the finals. all slams should just follow the FO-Wimby format.
     
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    I don't mind the US Open because even though they have no rest before the final at least the semis are played on the same day as each other so its:
    Fair
     
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  11. vive le beau jeu !

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    at the moment, a SF between the top 2 seeds is only possible at the masters (if one finishes 1st of his RR group and the other finishes 2nd of the other RR group).
    ex: federer [1] d. nadal [2] in the SF of the masters 2006/2007.



    you are talking about seeds, right ? (and not ranking)

    ... because if there is a discrepancy between the seeds and the ranking... you still can have a clash between the top 2 ranked players before the final (in a direct elimination draw, i mean) !
    this situation can happen, if a change in the rankings occurs the week where the tournament is starting, like -for instance- a switch between #2 and #3 players (when they make the draw, they take the most recent rankings available... which means the rankings of the week before).

    also: in the 80's and before, you had different ranking systems (ATP, GP), so depending on which one is used for a certain tournament, i guess it could also happen ! (and for the gran slam cup in the 90's : i think there were using some special ranking taking into account only slam points for making the seeds... at least during the first editions !)
     
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