Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by Heavy Metal Tennis Star, Nov 23, 2007.
how far do yall think he will go?
i say he will make the semis atleast.
I say anywhere from the 4th round to the quarters. depends on his draw, his health, and how the new surface plays.
Semis are a safe bet. He will have a serious test at that point, running into a nemesis like Djoker, Ferrer, or Nalbandian, or some other player on a hot streak.
How on earth is the semis a safe bet when he has never made it past the quarters of a hard court slam? Also he could play Ferrer or Nalbandian before the semis, since neither are a top 4 seed.
I think he could make it one step further in 2008 and make it to the semis,however he should hope Nalbandian isn't in his half because he gave him the worst beating on hardcourts than any other player in the draw.
He won't play (enter but withdraw).
Semis.. just hope that he would have imrpoved by then
On hard? I went with semis, or was it quarters? One of the two anyway.
4th round or quarters..considering his knees have been pulverised
and will take a LONG time to heal fully Plus its a hard court
Rafa should not bother with so many of these Hard court events
focus on clay and grass
LOL, so he should just skip the GS?
Sorry I didn't mean skip the AO.....poorly worded
I meant that Rafa should not play so many Hard court events overall and instead focus on clay and grass
Quarters, his usual.
I think he will get to the semis.. I think that the final is a bridge too far.
With his awesome talent he will make the semis.
I'd say 2nd round... losing to WC Philippoussis.
HAHAHA! That is funny.
Atleast in the quarters.
He has to do better on hard courts to even stay #2 let alone contend for #1. I dont think he will, in fact I think he will get worse perhaps, but from his point of view he cant just do what you say without trying.
I don't get why people don't think highly of Rafa's hard court ability. Are we forgetting that he won Indian Wells and got to the semis of Miami this year? This year the only reason he didn't do better in the AO was because he met Gonzalez pretty early, and Gonzalez blitzed everyone that came his way anyway (minus Federer). And for the US Open he was injured, and facing a great player (Ferrer).
I mean, yes, he isn't as successful on hard court as clay, but clay is simply his strong surface, and because you're comparing results which are brilliant (Clay C.) to results which are reasonably good (Hard C.), his hard court performance is coming out as bad. Honestly I think its pretty good, and to the person before who suggested he should only play clay and grass if he wants to do well, HOW IS HE SUPPOSED TO HOLD IS NO.2 RANKING AT ALL IF HE SKIPS TWO GRAND SLAMS (AO AND US Open), 4 MASTERS TOURNAMENTS, THE MANY OTHER HARD COURT TOURNAMENTS, THE ENTIRE INDOOR SEASON, AND THE MASTERS CUP, AS WELL? Besides which, what kind of stupid ideology is: "if I can't do very well, then I might as well give up and scrap it" ????
Rafa is a good alround player, but let us face the facts, where would he be ranked if the claycourt season was shorter? I think a 4th round for him would be a good call, anything more is a bonus. Personally I hope he gets further as he adds another dimension to a tournament.
So he plays 2 months on clay, 7 months on hardcourts and you ask what would happen if the clay season was shorter? Wow.
The amount of tournaments on hardcourts right now is ridiculous (2 Slams,6 Masters Series,Masters Cup and many small tournaments) so I think the logic question would be what if there was a equitative distribution between hardcourts,clay and grass?
Anyway I think Nadal has been the 3rd player to gain more ranking points on hardcourts this year (I will check later but at least I think he is really close) and he has played more matches out of hardcourts than any other top player due to his success on clay and grass, so other players who played less matches earlier this season on clay and grass were fresher in the last months. Nalbandian and Ferrer are good examples. But still, I think he had a good indoor season.
As for the AO I need to see the new surface and if Nadal can play so many matches in a row on hardcourts not being injured or phisically handicapped like in the USO.
A fourth round would be good for him
Sure let's face the facts,this year on clay Nadal played Barcelona-300,Monte Carlo-500,Rome-500,Hamburg-350,Stuttgart-250 and FO-1000,that's overall 2900 points.Let's take that from Nadal's overall points this season 5735-2900=2835.Davydenko who is #4 has 2825,so if Nadal skipped the ENTIRE clay season(kinda like Roddick)Djokovic would be #2 behind Fed and Nadal would be #3 ahead of Davydenko .So your point was? Nadal is so underrated in this forum it's ridicilous.
Err, if Nadal skipped those tournaments you mentioned, those points would be won by someone else (probably those in the top 10).
I say quarters, each win after round 2 will be a bonus for someone looking to recoup over the winter break. Damage limitation all the way.
Quarters or Semis.
Sounds like another "clay court" speciallist argument.
As oddly as this sounds....Nadal is currently the second best grass court player on the tour. In fact he would rank pretty high on the alltime list because the only one to beat Rafa on grass at wimby is fed. And Fed just might be the greatest grass court player ever and even Fed barely beat Nadal on grass.
As far as the AO,......hard courts are just not Rafa surface. Nadal is the modern day Borg. Both players utilized heavy topspin and both had a huge problem with hard courts. On the other hand both Nadal and Borg play incredible on grass and clay. 2 out of three aint bad.
Rafa will only make it to the semis if he is lucky. I understand that this plexicushion stuff is pretty fast.
Would be great to see Rafa in the AO fianls and he really could do it if ONLY he could up his serve
Depends completely on his draw.
I don't know their status, motivation, etc., but if the surface is quicker it could favor floaters like Safin or Ancic.
Before the Nadal fanatics snap, the operative word is "COULD".
In a favorable draw Nadal "COULD" have a cake walk to the SF or if on Roddick's side the Final.
Again the Draw is everything for Nadal on what amounts to his worst surface.
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