how fast can you run 1 mile?

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  1. austintennis2005

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    i am 45 and a 4.5 player in reasonably good shape, i have recently been trying to improve my time for 1 mile. I can currently run it in about 7 minutes but my goal is to get under 6 minutes.

    i am curious to know about others out there and their ages and times in the mile and what ntrp rating you are?
     
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    6 minutes flat in college. Probably 7:30 these days, but I haven't tried a full 4 laps in a while.
     
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    Late 30's for me and a 3.5 player. I stand about 5'10" and 160lbs. In high school, I could run 5 flat but the most recent time for me was 3 years ago at about 8:30. I could probably do 7:30 since I'm in better shape now. To get under 6 minutes, spend a couple months working up to it and do interval drills the right way. No slacking off. Eating sensibly helps a lot too. I find that intervals and 100-200m sprint repeats about twice a week kick up your speed quite a bit. If you wanted to run a 10k, I'd give you different advice.

    Out of curiosity, is this just for personal fulfillment? Timed mile runs don't seem to translate well into tennis. It's a game of short bursts of rapid acceleration.
     
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  4. austintennis2005

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    its not easy... what is your ntrp rating?
     
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    3.0-3.5. I'm not a tennis player, I'm a weightlifter.
     
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    thanks for you input... i would like to gently disagree with you, i think there is a strong correlation between overall fitness and the potential you have to play tennis at higher levels.... i know there will be exceptions but i seriously doubt there will be many 5.0+ players who cannot run a mile in under 6minutes. there are short bursts but for me to raise my overall level of fitness and my mental strength i must get my time under 6minutes.
     
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    6:20 last week, personal best was 5:52 in college. i'm not really much on shorter distance runs (1 milers, 5ks), I prefer long distance running (half and full marathons). Although if they put a racquet in my hand and dropped a tennis ball about a mile away, I could probably get to it even faster. I'm more like Jerry Rice, running a 4.7 on the track, a 4.3 on the field.

    26, 178 lbs, 5'10
    3.0-3.5, depends on the wind and how low the net is or how the wind is blowing...
     
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    5:45 in high school....Junior in college now probably in the 6-7 minute range
     
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    iam 56 1 mile 7:30. in tennis you need quickness and good reovery. high intensity interval workouts are most beneficial. distance is for stamina. an elite tennis would run a sub 6 minute mile because to be elite you have to be in the upper levle of athletic ability and fit. however traing to run a 6 minute mile doesnt train you for the metabolic demands of tennis the short burst short recovery workouts would imho
     
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    well i have been playing tennis for 20 years so i have the ability to move quickly in short bursts. i really believe that i am onto something here with trying to get my time under 6:00- strong legs and movement are critical to success in tennis.. if you reply to this post please let me know A) your current time to run 1mile- dont guess, i thoght i would be much better than i actually was...go out to a track with a stopwatch and see how hard it is to break 6mins if you havnt been training. B) your age and C) your ntrp level?

    i am really curious if any legitimate 5.0+ players (pretty close to college level and up) cannot break 6minutes... im guessing most are closer to 5minutes.
     
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    My fastest time was 5:20 at 185 22 years old. My last time I checked my mile time I ran 6:02 at 209 37 years old. I would have run faster but I did a 106mile bike race (20mph average) two days before I ran my mile and didn't have my hr unit to measure my hr. I ran the first 3 laps easy then ran a faster final lap. My goal was to run a 5 min mile when I was younger. I could run 5 min mile for 3 laps on the track then poop on the last lap and run a 5:20. I wish I was into running in HS when I my weight was 138-158 during those 4 years. I am sure I could have gone sub five or aleast 5 flat. I was into cycling and hockey at the time oh well.
     
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    My best ever was 5:03 during high school when I ran Cross Country. At the One One run in January (before the back problem had occurred) I clocked 6:07 for a mile split. My overall for 2.2 miles was 12:57.

    I have no idea what my NTRP rating is.
     
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  13. Slicendicer

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    I can play 5.0 and not get close to sub 6:00 min mile. The % of human beings running -6min miles is very, very low.
     
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    CM, believe it or not I ran a 4:30 my senior year in HS....I weighed all of 130 pounds. The last time I timed myself I ran a 7:30 ! I guess the 29 years and the 60 pounds takes a toll.
     
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    interesting...when you say you 'can play 5.0' does this mean you are a legitimate 5.0player who is close to college level? also, what is your age?
    thanks!!!
     
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  16. Slicendicer

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    I played 5.5 and a bit of college a few years ago. Admittedly my fitness isn't at it's best, but I can play 5.0. I played a 4.5 match last nite and won 0-2, but I was serving like 90% 1st serves and hitting some pretty good shots.

    I am 37. In 05' I could run back to back -6 min miles... once and throwed up for like 15 min's. I actually ran a 7-8 minute mile first, rested 1.5 min and ran.
     
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  17. Slicendicer

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    I can run a mile in 8-9 min's.
     
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    Yeah i could see someone with a big serve and great strokes being a bit out of shape and still playing at a good level
     
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    ex-college cross country runner. PR is a 4:06

    currently can pound out 5:30 repeats, but havent tried a full out mile in a long time.
     
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    4:30 is ridiculous! :) i signed up to run the congress avenue mile on jun 7, im having fun training for it now :(
     
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    6:25 today in drizzling rain.. love that stuff. gets the O2 levels up . i used to run 10ks in the 39 range at best when i was skinnier and a bit younger but now i am up to 215 lbs but not fat ..lean mean green machine. .. LOL
     
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  22. mtommer

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    Did you ever run high school cross country? I assure you, it's not even close to low.
     
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    I agree with slicendicer. The percent of human beings, not athletes, running less than 6 min miles is pretty low. To the OP, I would say you are probably right. If you play tennis at a high level, you probably can run a mile in less than 6 minutes. That's mainly due to the necessity of being in good shape. Other guys are in good so you have to be in order to keep up.
    At the lower levels of tennis where I dwell, you have guys who couldn't run a mile to save their life. :)
     
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  24. Slicendicer

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    Nope. The CC team was maybe 10 kids boys and girls at a school of 800-900... a very low %. And I'll flippantly state that more than 90% of human beings cannot run - 6 min mile. I could be wrong, but not by much... I assure you.
     
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    The world's population is huge. It's more like over 99% can't do a mile in under 6. We're not talking about the world's runners, we're talking about the population. If we're talking about runners, that percentage goes down dramatically.
     
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  26. Slicendicer

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    Yeah... well that guy is framing the argument like this.."out of the % of people who can run a -6 min mile, a high % can run a -6 min mile."

    most athletes... what is an athlete? Are most tennis players athletes? is a 5.0 an athlete and a 4.5 not? parcing words, but when making a statement such as %'s you should be clear.
     
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    I ran 2 miles in about 15 mins. and I walked 1/4 of the second mile in PE so 5-6 mins?
     
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    I don't see any stat that says a 5.0 and above can run the mile in under 6. I wouldn't be surprised if world class sprinters couldn't run the mile in under 6. The training is completely different.
     
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  29. Slicendicer

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    + 1

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    heres the results from a small local race...hardly world class athletes, 13 and 14 year olds are under 5minutes easily.... what have YOU been smoking??

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    William (will) Antkowiak Brenham TX 14
    37
    04:38.41
    4:38/M

    2
    Javier Jr. Zamora Brownsville TX 14
    47
    04:42.81
    4:42/M

    3
    Henry Sekimotto Cedar Park TX 14
    52
    04:44.91
    4:44/M

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    Austin Geerts Cedar Park TX 14
    65
    04:52.11
    4:52/M

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    Beau Bennett Houston TX 14
    75
    04:54.56
    4:54/M

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    Gregory Becker Austin TX 14
    112
    05:05.26
    5:05/M

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    Emiliano Magullanez 14
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    05:21.01
    5:21/M

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    Steven Peruffo Austin TX 13
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    05:21.81
    5:21/M

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    Logan Eckhardt Schulenburg TX 14
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    05:23.21
    5:23/M

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    Ryan Gaskamp Washington TX 13
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    05:26.66
    5:26/M
     
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  31. mtommer

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    No, having been on a Cross Country team (and subsequently knowing quite a few other people on various other school's teams) the majority of XC aren't runners. By this I mean the majority are simply looking for something to do. They don't eat, drink, sleep running. They don't care about gadget this or gadget that. They don't care about their mile splits, whether they win or lose, what their stats are, etc. In other words, they ARE the majority of the population who, if they put a little effort in to some training, would be able to run sub six miles.

    I don't care about 99% not doing so as of this very minute. That doesn't mean a bloody thing. That's got nothing to do with ability that can be harnessed through a little bit of training. To me this 99%, 90% business would be the equivalent of saying that if 99% of the world's population was overweight that they COULD NOT be overweight (because they aren't). That's simply an erroneous line of thought if you ask me. I think just about any able bodied human being has the ability to run a sub six mile. This means running a sub six mile is a rather insignificant achievement (ie "You just ran a sub six mile? Holy beejeebus you are good. I mean you are an extraordinary runner for having done that!"). While it may be somebody's personal goal, and for them it is a personal achievement, it's still rather ho hum.

    Now, comparatively there is a small percentage of people in this world who can run a sub five mile. To do so takes more than training, more than dedication, it takes genetic gifts and extreme motivation. Once you start getting into the sub five range, then you can start being considered a rather fast runner.
     
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  32. Slicendicer

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    again... of the % of people who can run a - 6 min mile, 100% can run a - 6 min mile... AND?

    because you list 10 people run a race who lapped -6 min miles, does not reflect the much larger % of population who cannot... like greater than 90%.
     
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    I'd say about three hours roughly.
     
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    Rickson, I've watched college sprinters while training. Not only can they run them under six, most can run them under five. Easily. Sprinters and endurance event specialists do a lot of paceline workouts together.
     
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  35. Slicendicer

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    dude... running 10 MPH for 6 min is not in the realm of the average person... you are way off on that. The average person can run a 12-14 min mile.

    I used to run a lot everyday and it took me a long time to run an actual 6 min mile.

    BTW, you admittedly cannot run a - 6 min mile yourself, what does that tell you? Are you not a average person?
     
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    I am betting the top 5 tennis players in the world don't run the mile under 6:00
     
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    What percentage of the population is able bodied adults? That number is the number of people who have the ability to run sub six miles. That number is very big. We simply have two different views about what means more (or should be paid attention to?)
     
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    I remember reading in some tennis book that the mens Stanford tennis players had to run a 5 min mile to make the team back in the 70's or 80's. Running a 5min mile is great but it really should not have anything to do with making a Div one School tennis team.
     
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    Slicer, I ran that 6:07 cold. I don't mean I was cold because of the winter temps in January. I mean I primarily cycle and play tennis. I hadn't done either since the fall. Have you seen the little belly I have in my tennis vids? I ran that 6:07 after a few months of doing nothing. No running. No working out. No indoor trainer. Pardon me, I play basketball a couple of hours each week. I guess not "totally" cold. The run, BTW, is simply a fun run. It's more social than anything. There is lots of free stuff given out which is why I like to go. I wasn't racing.

    I ran a 6:07.

    Am I not an average person?

    12 - 14 min for an average person? Even the fat lazy first basemen on my baseball team (when I played college ball) could run a mile faster than that. I'm not claiming that the average is under six, only that the average person is capable of under six with fairly easy training, nothing to intense.
     
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    I would take that bet if possible.
     
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    i dont see why it matters. Im easily 4.5 and i have run farther than 400m in a year
     
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    Tell you what... you post a video in 1 weeks time of you running a - 6 min mile on a track and I will Paypal you $40.
     
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    Maybe we read different books but maybe not, anyhow I read a book by chuck Kriese, the coach of the mens team at Clemson, and he had this same requirement. I dont remember if it was 6 minutes or 5 minutes however, im thinking it was 6 minutes.

    I havent been timed in the mile since a Phys Ed class, and I ran it in 5:45ish. I dont think im very good at distance running however, im more of a sprinter. Any more than 2 miles at this pace and it starts to become both uncomfortable and boring for me. In fact, I dont think Ive ever ran more than 2.5 miles straight. I never run a mile or anything for my training at least, maybe I should, but the sprinting type work is more tennis specific.
     
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    Not an average person. Perhaps the above average athlete with some proper training can run a mile in under 6, but definitely not the average person. I was the only person in my college weight training class to finish the mile in under 6:30 which got me an automatic A. 6:30 was the cutoff for the automatic A and I got a 6:05 while the 2nd guy came in at 6:37. Weren't my classmates all average people? Even I didn't get it under 6 although I call it 6 flat which is a fair call. I only weighed 142 lbs. back then and I was an above average athlete.
     
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    I'm a fourteen-year-old highly nationally ranked junior, and I run one mile in about 5:50, two in 13:05.
     
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    That's a huge split between 1 and 2 miles. You seem to be dropping your pace significantly for the 2 mile run. You should be getting a 12:30 or under for 2 miles if you get a 5:50 for 1 mile.
     
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    Im 16 in high school.. 5'11 146ish....the last time my coach mad me run a mile i finshed under under 6 min
     
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    Funny you said Chuck Kriese since my friend and doubles partner who played for St Cloud. He gave me some audio tapes to listin to by Chuck from Clemson good stuff. I Don't think it was Clemson but I can't remember for sure. But It was a 5 min mile because I was like I was in pretty good hockey shape and was 20 sec short. I want to say it was USC, UCLA or Stanford one of those Socal Schools. When I played hockey we only once ran 2 miles in camp everything else was sprints.
     
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    Tennis is more about exploding to the ball (sprints) instead of muscles used for longer distances.

    While training for endurance is well and good, I do not think one should put their focus on directly relating NTRP to running a mile.
     
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    Dear Swissv2 i am a tennis coach and have played for over 20 years, i have a pretty good idea of what tennis is "more about" i think if you look back at ivan lendl as an example of the first player who really dedicated himself to training off the court such as mainly bike riding to bring his level of fitness to a very high level. this is now done by all the top pros-hiring trainers and fitness experts. i think the postings on this thread have shown a strong correlation between being able to run the mile in under 6minutes or better and being able to play tennis at a fairly high level,ill put it this way: there are lots of people who can run the mile under 6minutes and cannot play tennis at a high level but there are very few people who can play tennis at a high level and not break a 6 minute mile.
     
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