How good do you have to be?...

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  1. MikeHitsHard93

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    To play d3, d2, or d1 tennis?
     
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    D-3, at least 4.0 to make the team, 4.5 to actually play singles
    D-1, at least 4.5 to make the team, usually at least 5.0 to play singles, but for higher ranked schools, 5.5 for sure.
     
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    It really does depend on the school. My friend coached D1 and in his first season, his 6th singles had never played tennis before. That being said, most D1 schools would have 4.5/5.0 as the bottom rung of the starters. I currently coach D3 and although most players are 4.0-5.5 in ability, there are players on other teams that would be 3.0 if not for USTA making sure that all college players are at least 4.0.
     
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    At the top D1 schools (Stanford, USC, UCLA...) the top are easily 6.0+, then it gets more toward 5.5 as you get down the list.
     
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    As Mikej would say -- here, I fixed that for you:

    At the top D1 schools (USC, UCLA...) the top are easily 6.0+, then it gets more toward 5.5 as you get down the list.
     
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    NTRP self-rate guidelines are absolutely useless. Look at TRN ratings and USTA rankings.
     
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    I play at a low level D3 school and I'm a low 4.0 at 4th seed. Our 6th and 7th players have never played before.
     
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    Thank you :)
     
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    I am a freshman In highschool and have been playing for 5 years. I have been told by my coaches and high school coach that I am a 4.5-5.0. By the time I am a Senior, Do you think I could be playing at a D1 University?
     
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    If you are already a 4.5/5.0 then you are already good enough to play D1. Some D1 schools have players who would be 3.5 if they were allowed to rate that low. However, if you plan to go to D1 to get an athletic scholarship at a good academic D1 school, you will probably need to be at least 5.0 and maybe 5.5 level.

    I coach D3 and my first singles was rated 5.5 and second singles would be rated 5.0. We played a team in the fall that had 4 former D1 player transfers. We won 5 of those 6 courts (singles and doubles).
     
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    What are some....

    What are some good D1 Universitys that have good programs? I live in Idaho, but want to go somewhere nice to play year round. Also why I am here, any suggestions on new rackets? looking at the aero pro.
     
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    These questions are useless because THE USTA RATINGS SYSTEM IS A SELF RATED SYSTEM...and it doesn't mean squat in the NCAA/NAIA. I realize players want to hear if you _____, then you can make this _______ team, but it's just not that cut and dry. You have to be in the right place at the right time and have put in the work and probably most importantly in tennis...dealt with the pressure of the tennis matches at the right time when you needed to. Play as much as you can and meet as many people as you can...get in front of coaches and most importantly, FIND A SCHOOL AND TEAM THAT FITS YOU. Geez!!! There is no magic formula.........
     
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  13. Hodgey20

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    COuldnt agree more with this post. There is no set level to be eligible to be DI, DII, or DIII. If you are good enough at a tryout or a challenge match while the coach is watching, your in.
     
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    It's just a ballpark figure, to see if Mike is close to being a college level tennis player, which is anything from 3.5 up to 6.0, as everyone stated.
     
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    NTRP is not an objective measure of skill. If you're a junior you aren't playing NTRP tournaments/leagues so you are not going to have the match results to validate a self-rated NTRP. That said, NTRP guidelines have minimums for self-ratings if you've played any college ball. Put it this way: you don't get to play college tennis because you think you're a 5.0, but you'll be initially rated a 5.0 for league play because you played college tennis.

    What you need to ask yourself is if you honestly think you deserve to play college tennis. Wanting it isn't enough. What have you done to distinguish yourself as a player from the rest of the guys?

    As for those teams who will take anyone to fill out a roster spot, it's probably not worth playing on such horrible teams. You'd probably have more fun playing club tennis/USTA Tennis on Campus at a big state school.
     
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    seriously-stop asking for advice here. 99% of advice here is junk. go out, get a good coach, practice your butt off, do your own research, dont worry about what racket to use as long as the one you have fits your game. work on your game. the rest will come.
     
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    If you have to ask if you're good enough for tennis then I suggest finding a school that you want to go to for academic reasons. Then, if the school has tennis as a sport, try out. This is what I did for baseball.
     
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    Poster 17 has some valid points.
    If you aren't scouted by 11th grade, forget a full scholarship, or even a partial.
    I ended up going to CCSF, because they had 65 dudes on the football team, so I got to try out as a walk on. No, didn't come close to making it.
     
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  19. tennis_ocd

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    Short answer; If you're a freshman and even in the 4.5 range you certainly have the potential for D1. Talk (email) a local college coach and set up a trip to a match or practice. You'll get a feel for how they play; their committment and perhaps some feedback on where you might fit in and what you need to do over the next couple of years.

    You must find a hs coach or club pro familiar with your game and college tennis to assist you further -- help you put together a 3 to 5 min video with emphasis on match play. This board is great for many things.... but not for finding you a college fit.
     
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    9th grader, tennis close to 4.5 or 5.0 is a blue chip 3 star, at worse.
    You already got recruited, or you're not really a "4.5-5.0".
     
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    You need to play tournements, get a sectional/national ranking, etc. if you want to get a scholarship. It does not really matter what your coaches think of you.
     
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    = nail on the head
     
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  23. MikeHitsHard93

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    Created this thread and totally forgot about it...

    As LeeD stated previously, I was looking for a "ballpark" answer. I had no clue how good some of those guys are.
     
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    I think what most kids/players do not realize is that a coach is going to find you if you're a stud player USUALLY. There are a ton of tools now a days to track players. Now, that being said...1 in 1,000...there is a lone kid in a dusty blinking light town that hasn't played a single USTA tournament but can whip the crap out of everybody at the Texas 2A State Tournament for four years, but then again by the third year the hound dogs will be on him too. Maybe I should have said the Alaska State Tournament or North Dakota State Tournament. Whoever's sled dogs can get them there wins. If you have some significant STARS by your name at an early age, a college coach will be contacting you early on. You will not be forced into chasing them (unless you are a felon or have some "issue") at which they will have chased you first to find out. For the jr player that has not played and not invested in their game and "thinks they are good" and wants to ask the on a NTRP SCALE question, you will not get a college scholarship 99% of the time! Let's extrapolate that out further...there's really no chance being realistic. Now...if you want to play college tennis (is that what those kids are asking)...then they could play D3 or something (anybody can play college tennis if they are willing to go someplace that needs a player), but they are paying money to do it and that needs to be put out front, but hey 95% of us pay money to go to school. We should pay money to go to school, it's okay to pay money to go to school.

    You must have the ability and drive and be able to find a spot.
     
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  25. tennis_ocd

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    Agree somewhat but 9th grader recruited? And these NTRP rating are kinda silly when tagged to 13 yo kids. Bottom line is the kid must do some tourneys and show results. Difficult for me to believe that a under 14 yo kid can play with 4.5 yo adults and yet hasn't gone far in a few tournaments.
     
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