How long does a server have between points, and when does the clock start?

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  1. loosegroove

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    You have 20 secs to serve, right? When does that countdown begin, since I assume that having to fetch balls etc wouldn't be part of the 20 secs. I ask because I played a league match and one of the guys on the other team had the LONGEST serve prep. He did a bouncing squat at the baseline for a few moments while staring off into nowhere, then stood up and proceeded to individually stretch and shake out both wrists, and then finally would begin what you consider a regular routine of bouncing the ball multiple times and serving. Drove us nuts! Sometimes he even did his routine between first and second serves. I don't get petty about little rules, since USTA is about having fun for me. But this was beyond annoying, since I felt like I was just standing around for his service game.
     
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  2. bcart1991

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    I think it's 25 secs, but that ^^ sounds ridiculous.
     
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  3. floridatennisdude

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    The ball is supposed to be put into play 25 seconds from the moment the previous point ended
     
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  4. woodrow1029

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    It is 20 seconds in between points (It is only 25 seconds at ATP World Tour and ATP Challenger Tour events).

    The time technically starts as soon as the previous point ends. However, in USTA tournaments and league matches, when there are no ballkids, it's very, very subjective. You will generally only see a time violation if the player is "obviously stalling".
     
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  5. woodrow1029

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    Just clarifying that it is actually 20 seconds.
     
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  6. woodrow1029

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    However, your individual league may have a different rule than the standard USTA rule, so you may want to verify with that also.
     
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  7. Cindysphinx

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    Woodrow, if you came upon the situation described above and you were a roving official, would you do anything? Would you just time the 20 seconds and give a time violation or soft warning at 21 seconds? Does that sort of service routine constitute stalling, or do you go strictly by the clock?
     
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    I would at least give a soft warning, if it were a pattern. After that if he continued, then would give a time violation.
     
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  9. Mike Y

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    Yeah this makes me mad. I played a guy the other day that took forever doing his service motion. He would stare into space, then bounce the ball, stare into space again, bounce the ball, stare into space, then he would finally serve the ball. He would do this for his 2nd serve as well. Nice is rec tennis, just serve the freaking ball!

    And sometimes before he would actually serve the 2nd serve a ball from another court would go by the back fence and he would go get it and want another 1st serve. We could have finished a point already! We had so many more lets just because he would take forever to serve the darn ball. I hate it when people delay points that long, keep it moving!
     
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  10. Mike Y

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    Oops, should be "This is rec tennis..". Preview posts!
     
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  11. floridatennisdude

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    Interesting...the pros have refs, line judges, and ball kids and they get 5 more seconds.
     
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  12. woodrow1029

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    Only at ATP events.

    Grand Slams, Davis Cup, Fed Cup, ITF Pro Circuits, and WTA are also 20 seconds.
     
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  13. corbind

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    I'm amazed this madness happens ... Run to your car!
     
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  14. mmk

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    Unless Rafa is serving
     
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  15. woodrow1029

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    Glad you could give such helpful information to a legitimate thread.
     
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