How long does it take to "wear out" a racquet?

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  1. Fr3nch

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    I was wondering how long it takes to wear out a frame. Im not talking about actually getting physical cracking in the frame, but just until it loses its playability and goes "dead".

    I ask because I've had a BLX 6.1 90 for a year, using it 5 days a week for about 3 hours at a 4.5 level. Not to mention its been through 25 or so string jobs. Its starting to feel a bit dead to me. Wondering if its wearing out or its all in my head.
     
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  2. newpball

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    You play five days a week for 3 hours and restring every two weeks and you only have one single racket? :?
     
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  3. DustinW

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    I'm not sure that I buy the whole 'racquet going dead' thing. I have a Prince Graphite II that is 20+ years old and it still plays great. My best guess is that it has been through at least 100 string jobs. It is well loved. :)

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    Switch up your string setup and see if it comes back to life.
     
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  4. Sander001

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    I was going to post that the older racquets last much longer than the new ones due to the quality of the graphite or something.

    I have a very old Pro Staff 85 and it still plays very crisp and sharp while my Yonex's have lost a noticeable amount of stiffness and they are from 2007.
    Then again, I have a Prestige Tour that I bought off e-bay and it's not as crispy as my PC600's that I've kept in storage. Maybe the Prestige Tour was tossed about, who knows.
     
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  5. vsbabolat

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    The Prestige Tour is going to feel softer because of the suspension grip compared to the Prestige Classic
     
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    A horse's age.
     
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  7. Sander001

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    Yeah I know, but it's more than just the feel.
     
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    how often do you renew grommets?
     
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  9. ilovetennis212

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    1st Reason - your string go dead when you even don't know about it.
    You played with that racquet for a year.
    You did string job around 25times.. That means you did string job once in two weeks.
    So you played 30hours with one string??!
    I don't know how hard you hit but it sounds like you have it very low tension or you hit soft enough to not break strings in 30hours of hitting.
    Try this..
    You must re-string your racquet if your balls start to go out.
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    http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Tourna_Stringmeter/descpageUNIQUE-STRMETER.html

    2nd reason
    Your racquet might have defective parts inside.
    Especially if you bought it from eb8y.
     
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  10. Chotobaka

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    It is different for each racquet. Some wear out the first time I smash them on the ground. Others take three or four whacks.
     
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  11. goran_ace

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    The process is so gradual that the only real way to tell is if you playtested it versus a brand new racket of the same model. What kind of strings are you using?
     
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  12. cknobman

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    This. Unfortunately every single racquet I have ever owned eventually "wears out" due to being smashed on the ground :(
     
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  13. TennisCJC

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    If you play a lot and you are playing a lot, I think the general guideline is about 1 year before a racket begins to break down. Tennis magazine had an article about this years ago and if my memory is correct, they said about a year for advanced rec players who play 3 or more times per week.

    Personally, I buy 2 and play them for 2 years. I play 4 times a week in hot and cold weather and restring each racket roughly 12-14 times per year. I play 4.0-4.5 level players on average. I hit with good pace but am not a blaster.

    I think 1 year for someone who plays as much as you at 4.5 level is reasonable time to begin to think about replacing the frame.

    But, I have know guys who hit the ball really hard and will play a racket for years. Not unusual to see someone with a 10 year old frame.

    The frame will begin to lose stiffness and a touch of power but I have no idea how much. If it is only a small percentage change over time, it would be difficult to notice.
     
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  14. Shangri La

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    There was a thread about how many racquets/strings Fed is provided every year. If memory serves, calculation from that thread is that each racquet goes through roughly 50 string jobs before Fed switches to a new batch. If 50 re-strings is good enough for Fed then I don't see any issues for mere mortals. Of course some of the 50 jobs are re-strung without any play time and Fed doesn't play with one racquet for several hours.
     
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  15. StringingIrvine

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    I too don't buy into the racket going dead.

    I'd imagine racket storage plays a bigger role if it was the case. Is your racket sitting in a hot car all day? Do you live in an area where it gets 100º+?

    As much as i think your racket is fine, I'd place a little bet that you are looking for a reason to test out some new rackets or but a new version of your own. I do it all the time =p, you gotta justify your purchase.

    If thats the case, BLX 6.1 90 wear out after a year, using it 5 days a week for about 3 hours. If that is you go out and buy some new toys for yourself!
     
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  18. Lukhas

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    Dunno. Had a frame for a year playing thrice a week. I was pretty rough with it and restrung it often. Many paint chips, some graphite showing here and there. Nothing lethal, but it started looking like a Relic Stratocaster. And I only used one frame for the whole year.
    I knew it was "time" when it started becoming really flimsy, nasty crispy/crackling sensations outside the sweetspot. When I hit the sweetspot it's perfectly fine. But otherwise it started acting up a bit and I had to change it. I didn't threw it but it didn't play as well as it used to anymore. Now I'm a bit more picky about my frames and started using protection tape to slow down the wear a bit.

    Now, if the frame is in a good condition I would consider getting new grommets. I know someone who beat up his [K]Blades all the way from the grommet to the graphite. Granted, he has been using it almost all the time ever since he got them, at least thrice a week and often much more than that, and that is ever since they were released. However he's so attached to his frames that he just bough replacement grommets for his frame. TBH, I tested the new ones, the BLX and the Amplifeel. Even though I liked the BLX much more than the Amplifeel and both are perfectly fine frames, neither had that full, solid and heavy feeling when you take them in your hand. Granted, both of his have a leather grip, but still it felt pretty different even without hitting with them. So I kinda understand that he's searching for more of these.
     
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  19. vsbabolat

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    Sorry I dont understand..:confused:
     
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  20. rdis10093

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    please explain how is power important if you can not feel where the ball is going to go.
     
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  21. andrewski

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    Hi,

    I read in UK magazine many years ago about Yonex testing racket wear with nationally ranked juniors.

    I think that after 6 months play (daily play) and many restrungs, the flex dropped by 8-10%.
    Going from flex of 70 to 63-64 is a lot, I guess.
     
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  22. Fr3nch

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    I play with poly strings for the durability. They break about every two weeks. Ill break synthetics in a day or two.
     
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  23. duffman

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    My babolat pure storm tour gt last about a year before cracking at the 10/2 o clock position. This is regular wear and tear rotating three racquets. I'm actually getting pretty frustrated since rotating 3 means that they are lasting about 4 months each before cracking. But babolat won't warrantee them since they are older than a year. I really like this racquet but am seriously considering switching racquets because if this issue.
     
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  24. Chotobaka

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    Cracks and other structural damage aside, I think a lot of the ladies here are wearing their panties way too tight when worrying about racquets wearing out.

    Jeez! Way too much faux sensitivity about "this" and "that". How about manning up and playing the game? I can grab my old racquets and they play just fine. Just like I remember them. What a progesterone fueled generation worrying about the tiniest specs of minutia.
     
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  25. Sander001

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    ^Somebody's gotten beat by new racquets one too many times. You may not notice compositional fatigue, but it's a very real thing that does effect performance of a racquet. Guaranteed.
    Beyond just the feel, the racquet demonstrates a more flexible performance.
     
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  26. rdis10093

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    white russian is correct.
     
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  27. Chotobaka

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    I see what you did there. :)
     
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  28. frinton

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    I think you need to work on your technique a bit. With proper technique 1 good whack should do the trick. From there on it is just for fun :twisted:
     
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  29. Lack

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    Probably after 2, 3 years if you keep up those sessions.
     
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  30. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    Bringing up a dead thread back to life. I wondered about this too. I've been rotating my 4 BLX90 for about 2 years now. And I break strings quite often, probably string up a new frame every 2weeks.

    And I think when we're talking about frame fatigue, we're talking about the beating these graphite fibers take when strings are broken and the stringing process.
     
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  31. LeeD

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    Some kinda knowledgeable folke say carbon fiber does get softer thru fatique and use, but the most noticeable change is the reflex quickness when pushed out of shape and the racket needs to return quickly back to shape.
    I agree, after 40+ years of working with carbon fiber for motorcycle fairings, seat frames, and spoilers.
     
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  32. Steria

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    [​IMG]

    From left to right, what kind of racquets are these?
    And are they good racquets that still are playable, and worth buying?

    The picture is from an advertisement on Craigslist, and I want to find out some more about these. The guy selling them did not know anything about them.
     
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  33. Rorsach

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    1 and 4 are cheap alu frames (both Pro Kennex from the look of it).
    3 is a Donnay CGX25
    5 is a Wilson Sting mid.

    No idea about #2 (Also a Pro Kennex).

    There's nothing really special about that bunch.
     
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  34. pvw_tf

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    NO do not think it is your head. The more you play with a racket and the more string jobs you had will make a racket loose its strength/stiffness/precision.

    Top rackets can handle more string jobs. 25 to 40. Lesser rackets 10 to 25. Beginner rackets up to 10.

    All naturally depending on tension and how hard you hit.

    You will notice the difference when you play with the same racket but a new one. And it can fairly big.


    Peter
     
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