How Long will it take me to figure this mac out?

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  1. meowmix

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    My aunt just bought me a new macbook yesterday. She lives in California, yet, this morning, the Fedex guy came and dropped off my new macbook.

    Needless to say, I'm pretty stoked. I'm just curious, how long do you think it'll take me to figure out how to use the thing? I've been using windows my entire life, and right now, I'm using an Acer. The Acer runs fine, and it's enough for my limited needs, but I've noticed that it can run very slowly.

    For a guy that has very limited experience with Macs, how long will it take me to get familiar with the Mac OS?
     
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    Not long. It is a similar setup. Windows was based on Apple's OS after all.
    The first IBM PC's used DOS, that was a blast. ;o)

    I use both a MAC and a PC. There are differences but nothing a reasonably intelligent person can't conquer fairly quickly.
     
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    It will be interesting to see your opinion in 6 months. Mac users tend to stay very loyal to the Apple brand. I'm a PC guy too, but my iPhone makes me think that I should take the plunge and buy a Mac.
     
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    Biggest is issue for me was was/is the Mac's delete key is the PC's backspace key and there is no real delete key. 15 months and I am still not used to that.
     
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    First, God bless your aunt.

    My switchover was effortless and I've never looked back.

    What apps do you use ? What do you do most on the computer.?
     
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    I agree with you there about wanting to get a mac. I've had my iphone since October and now since I got some cash for xmas I'm looking into getting one. I was thinking about the MB Pro but apparently it's due for an update early next month so I'm holding out. I hope I'm right about the update and I'm not waiting for nothing. I really like the macbook but I'm kind of hesitant about the plastic shell.
     
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    My needs are very basic. I surf the net and do homework, and that's pretty much it. On my pc, I run openoffice, ie (although I should switch) and that's about it. Very minimal gaming. Very minimal need for processor intensive stuff. It's why I've managed to live on 512 RAM on this laptop for 3 years.

    FYI, the reason for the mac is that I'm entering college in 9 months. I needed a computer upgrade before then, and my aunt jumped at a 25% discount on the macbook.
     
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    How did you get a 25% discount. I would jump all over that too. Like right now.

    FYI I'm a student too in case that was the discount.
     
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    It took me a week or two to get used to the close button being in the top left corner, also using the copy and paste shortcut took a few days to get comfortable with.
     
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    Hey Meowmix. My parents bought me a macbook pro for my birthday. The computer is awesome but I am having a little trouble with the mousepad. I didnt know how to right click lol. Also I find managing multiple web pages at the same time to be kinda difficult. Other than that I am really thrilled about the laptop. I am still discovering new things every day. The battery life is tremendous, I was on it for 4.5 hrs with it crashing. Oh, and of course, it looks really hot as well. :eek:
     
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    get a wireless mouse, then u can right click to copy and paste
     
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    LOL. I am currently using an efficient usb mouse. Works like a charm.
     
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    LiveForever, how old are you if you don't mind me asking. I had the impression that you were 30 years old or so (no offense)
     
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    :shock: Oh really. LOL. I am 18 yrs. old.
     
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    Lol i love this comment!

    I wish that were true. Unfortunately windows/office training given to students/workers teaches them gui/application specific mouse/keyboard usage navigation patterns. They don't think, only pattern match from past success. This severely handicaps anyone solely experienced with microsoft products from easily learning anything different. Actually much easier to teach a neophyte the common concepts applicable to all computer systems than to deprogram an office drone.

    My tip is to buy a three button mouse and learn the cmd key functions.
    A mac isn't a magical get out of jail card. You'll still need to provide support to aunty. sigh.
     
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    When you go to school, you will undoubtably spend a lot of time watching bootleg films and your favorite TV shows on your laptop, and Mac's do it best. You will be really happy with your gift. Those websites will look like original DVD's on your screen!

    Also, if you are using openoffice on your pc, you will have to switch to the openoffice version for Macs, which is Neooffice.
     
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    The avatar fooled you...
     
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    Once you go mac, you never go back.
    :cool:
     
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    Yup, i'm only 12 years off :D

    I myself am 16
     
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    haha, i heard a pretty funny one here that sounded quite similar :-D
     
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    i remember some years ago, my old boss bought a mac for me to use. i asked him where the manual was and he told me, "you don't need a manual to use a mac" :shock:
     
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    I was on a PC right up till my dad got a Mac for the family computer, and Macs--they're so easy to use, so user-friendly and efficient, and not bad on the eyes either. Today I think I know how to do 100x more things on a Mac than on a PC despite having used the latter for a decent amount of time (or I'm probably just really daft :p).
     
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    I do not know if the discount is still available, but here's what I've heard.

    The University of Maryland has a deal with Apple. A few days ago, my cousin was informed that Macbooks for U of Maryland students would cost 748 dollars. From what I've learned on various websites, the actual cost is 948, but you can get 200 dollars back, knocking the price down to 748 (a 25% discount off the regular 999). You can access this through mac.edu (apparently). Hope this helps whoever wants a macbook for (relatively) cheap.
     
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    For me, homework right now consists of writing essays for classes, and typing up responses to study questions. Very basic stuff. I'm also officers in quite a few organizations, which require the use of a spreadsheet/the ability to open excel files. No biggie. I'm no longer taking computer programming, so I don't have any use right now for those programs.
     
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    I have... 3-4 hours of use on this mac, and I'm pretty comfortable with it. I don't have any preferences... yet. It is remarkably convenient to use, but (I don't think) more so than a pc. Still trying to figure out how some of these programs work, but so far, the learning curve has been very shallow. The only thing that's angered me about the mac so far is that it doesn't come pre-installed with a decent word processor. I kind of expected something similar to MS Works or Word to be preinstalled... instead, there was only this really crappy program. Installed Openoffice 3.something (need to update on my pc...), and I'm very content.
     
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    My sisters new Macbook Pro can go upto 7 hours with normal browsing and stuff. I've seen the indicator at 8 hours too.

    I'm damn impressed with these Macs, my next system will definitely be a Mac.

    Quality system hands down.
     
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    I checked out on the education store and I didn't see that price. There is a pretty good discount though that I'm just going to go through with my HS. I think it's for the majority of hs and colleges. I think most are the same I checked out a few in my city but the price for the macbooks is 899 versus the 999. Most of the lower priced laptops are about 100 off and then once you get to the 2k range its about 150 to 200 off. imacs its only about 50 though. that's all that i found.
     
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    I know, if you are used to MS Word (proprietary format) then any other system can be inconveniencing. TextEdit is not the same i think. That is why is asked about what exactly does your homework require. But i am glad that OO satisfies your requirements.

    I just remembered that Google has something called Google Docs (in gmail) in which(iirc) you can edit a Word doc -- although that will be on the web/gmail. Haven't really used it but just remembered.

    Ack, the links are general programs not programming related. Like Adium for messaging, or other programs for ftp, blog editing, torrenting, watching video etc.

    I think as you go along you may need those.

    Do download a free program called "namely" which lets you enter a few letters of a command name and it opens that application. Very nifty.

    And i also use a free clipboard saver called Jumpcut. Its minimal but free.

    I've also got typeitforme (expands abbreviations as i type).

    if you browse a lot, you have the choice of Safari, Camino and of course Firefox.

    You'll need Perian if you use Flash - i think thats for Quicktime (sort of forgetting). You can also use VLC for watching videos (avis).
     
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  30. makinao

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    Right click on a MacBook = two finger tap. System Preferences > Trackpad > "Tap trackpad using two fingers for secondary click".

    Multiple web pages ? = Do you mean browser tabs? Thats standard in Safari and Firefox. Command + T.
     
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    I never had a Wintel computer (and I've had more than a few) that came preinstalled with a "decent word processor". Like Window's Notepad, Text Edit for mac is a plain text / rich text editor. For freeware, there is Oo for Mac, and an earlier fork of Oo called NeoOffice, which if further developed than Oo for Mac and which is preferred by more mac users I know. For commercial stuff, there is MS Office 2008 for mac, which some say is way cooler than its PC version. Then there is Apple's own suite iWork 09, which is VERY cool, and cheaper than MS Office. All these can save to MS Office, pdf, rtf and other file formats.
     
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    It won't take long. What you'll learn (maybe "realize" is a better word) is there's an underlying logic to the way Mac operates, and that things are very tactile, and after a while you'll be able to guess/anticipate how things work. You have to unlearn some of the arbitrariness of Windows. But it's almost like being in a bad relationship for 10 years, breaking up, and then dating somebody awesome. You might get suspicious and maybe even a bit scared by how smoothly things will go now that you're with a computer that is predictable, loving, reliable, and rational.
     
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    Eh, I don't know. It might be a 50 dollars off deal, and then 200 dollars back using bing or something? When I looked it up, a lot of sights were posting about it.
     
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    I've never had one that came preinstalled either, but I figured that being a mac, they'd be nice and give you one for free...
     
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    Last night, after I finished charging, I sat down on my couch at around 8 and started to watch to New Year stuff while trying to figure out the mac. 4 and a half hours later, after watching videos, using fb, etc, I'm still at around 50% in terms of power. At the beginning, the indicator showed around 7 hours 45 minutes. This beats the heck out of my Acer which could hold a charge, when new, for about an hour and 15 minutes. Surprisingly, my acer still holds a charge for around an hour+, despite the battery being in constant use for 3 years.
     
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    ^Be careful with those Mac batteries though. Some have caught on fire. Make sure there is no recall for your model of battery.
     
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    ^ The last major laptop battery recall due to risk of fire was in 2006. It involved not only Macs, but HP, Toshiba, Dell, Acer, Lenovo, and Fujitsu as well. The batteries in question were made by Sony.
     
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    openoffice is really for pc's.....neooffice is openoffice for Macs
     
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    I takes a while to figure out what programs to use as equivalents to oft-used PC ones (not counting thse that come with the mac). Just use google and eventually you'll have everything.
     
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    Eh. I've already downloaded OpenOffice, so unless it starts failing on me, that's probably what I'll stick with.

    And one feature that I LOVE is the built in dictionary for ALL programs. I love how the computer will automatically tell me in any program when I've misspelled a word. Makes things SOOOO much more convenient.
     
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    Also, here's a repository for a lot of really cool apps:

    http://www.versiontracker.com/

    Make sure to grab VLC and Graphic Converter; they're both indispensable.
     
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    I've been forced to use those stupid Mac's on occassion. Among other things, I can't understand how you people live with not being able to 'click' by lighting touching anywhere on the keypad, but are forced to click on some specific button.
     
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    im going to wait to get my mac for college over the summer... they usually come with a discounted/free ipod touch.
     
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    I believe you get a rebate on either the touch or the classic - the classic is just more expensive, so the rebate doesn't cover all of it.

    That being said, the classic is much better. I have both and the touch is quite overrated and gets boring after a while.

    The 'touch' function is interesting, but has its flaws. Frankly a bit of an annoyance on the bus while scrambling for mittens/umbrellas.
     
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    neooffice's base is openoffice. Deleting programs in Mac OS is instant, unlike a PC. You just open your "Applications" folder, and drag the program into the trash. It's now gone and done. Downloading neooffice wont take but 1-2 minutes, and it opens everything, even .xls
     
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    ^Seriously? That's a HECK of a lot easier than on a pc...
     
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    Welcome to mac! :) Once you've had Mac, you never go back!
     
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    Yep! It's that easy, and Topaz is correct. It's like having sex with a gorgeous cougar--in this case, snow leopard; then, girls or woman your age will just never cut it!

    Just drag the program in the trash, and it's one, just like taking the trash to the front of the driveway, and you never see it again. And how easy is it when the trash can has wheels?!
     
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    Hey! Thanks for the back-up on the other thread!

    Did you apply ED? If so, where did you and are you in? If not, and you would like a little help, I always offer free advice to Chinese high school students applying to college, as it is a big part of my firms business.

    During the past three years alone, all of my advisees got into the college of their choice, all private colleges, and not one is paying more than $3,700 dollars, after I helped to negotiate their finaid packages. I would be glad to help out a kid liked you.
     
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    The Lama,

    I applied EA to Yale, and got deferred. I just sent out another 15 apps, so I'm pretty much done. Was not a fun break...
     
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