How many aces do you usually hit?

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  1. Bergboy123

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    Just kinda curious, how often do you guys hit aces in a typical match? Never? 5+? I'd love to hear. Also include your approximate rating, I feel like that would provide context.

    I'll start! I'm somewhere between 4.0 and 4.5 and I'm happy to get 1 or 2 per match, but most of the time it's 0 :confused:
     
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  2. Roger Wawrinka

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    I'm a junior so I don't know what my rating is. The highest level tournament I've played yet was the easter bowl 2012, but I serve about 5+ per match on a good day. ( sorry I really did not want to sound like I'm bragging).
     
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  3. USArmyTennis

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    I'm a 4.5 and it really depends on my opponent. Some guys move really well and react to serves and I might get 0-2. Others I can get 4-5 a match. Probably average about 3 overall though. I like to hit a heavy twist serve shallow in the box on the deuce side and watch it move so far off the court they can't touch it. Harder serve to get in, but easily the easiest ace I get.
     
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  4. The Isomotion31

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    3.0 I get 4-5 a match on a good day.

    I'm usually good for 1-2.

    On the good days when it is on, I won't hesitate to go 2 first serves and catch people off guard especially when the start cheating inside the baseline for the second serve.
     
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  5. Kahlz

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    I play at 4.5 and can usually get around 5 aces. It really depends on who my opponent is. I have one friend I hit with who is great at returning, and I rarely get any aces on him. On the other hand, I have played people who don't like left handers, and I rack up an ace a game.
     
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  6. The Meat

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    I play against 4.5-5.0 players who know how to return well. I can get maybe 3 or 4 aces, usually from the deuce outwide with a good slice or down the T on the Ad side. Do forced errors count? I can make my opponent hit at least 10 in a match. Got to love the body serve. :)
     
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  7. HughJars

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    About 4-5 a set. Get a lot of forced errors off serve too. But it weighs up with double faults. Probably average two double faults for every three service games. I refuse to go soft on second serves anymore as I keep working on developing a strong second serve. I figure that a serving percentage of 70% (which I where I want to be) equates to a double fault percentage of 9%, which is going to be far outweighed by easy points. Currently my serve % is about 55%. 4.0 player.
     
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  8. Relinquis

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    1-2 aces per match. some matches i only get one ace. i hit every serve with some type of spin though, i probably only hit 2-3 flat serves per match.

    i do get quite a few free points from my serve. a lot of nonreturnables because of the variety and spins i suppose. often times even though they make contact their ball sails long or gets dumped into the net.
     
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  9. dr325i

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    OP, the requirement should also have been a sample video as it seems that 90% of posters are (overrating themselves to) at least 4.5.
    A very small part of tennis population is actually 4.5 and above
     
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  10. HughJars

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    Whats your rating?
     
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  11. spinorama

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    7.0 here....self rated. 10+ per match
     
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    I get maybe one or two, but no more. I don't really go for aces. My aces are usually the result of very good placement against the opponents stance.
     
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    5.0 self rated. 4.5 ttw rated. 4.0 sandbag rated for my country club inter club team.
    Undefeated at singles in past 2 years. 3 legit aces per match.
     
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  14. pvaudio

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    :lol: If only this was uncommon.
     
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    I'm somewhere between a 4.0 and a 4.5. I average maybe 4-8 per match depending on how well I'm serving.
     
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  16. Wilson6-1

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    USTA 4.0 rating.

    Around 4 or 5 a match playing doubles. More if playing singles.

    I will say that as I play higher competition, I try for less aces and more variety. Mixing up serves produces more errors than speed or placement, IMO. I can't tell you how many times I have crushed a serve off the line just to see the returner lunge and frame the ball over the net for a winner.
     
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  17. dizzlmcwizzl

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    I was just bumped to 4.5. My best shot is the serve so I rely on it a lot. My groundies and foot speed are not strengths.

    In singles I only get 2-3 a match because the opponent does not have to gamble and he can merely block the ball back. When your opponent knows that he just has to get the ball back in the court it is really hard to ace someone ... in that situation I have to hit it almost perfectly. If I were better off the ground I would probalbly get more because the returner would have to play more aggressively to get back to even on my service points.

    In doubles I usually get between 5-10 per match (more in mixed). The combination of my serve and my net man places a lot of pressure on the returner. I usually get most of my aces by returners cheating to one side or the other and my ability to hit the corner they were not expecting.

    Video as Apparently Required Now
     
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  18. goran_ace

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    Number of aces, maybe 3 to 5 in a match, but if we include service winners the count goes up a lot because I rely heavily on my serve to set up the point or get me free points. Number of unreturnable serves in a match really depends more on the quality of the opponent's return game.
     
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  19. kazamzaa

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    One ace per two service games approximately.
    Spinny wide in the deuce box is the easiest. Then a flat wide in the ad box. Third is flat at the T in the deuce box. Then the most difficult ace is spinny at the T in the ad box.
    My Height is 6' 4½" (194cm) so I get an advantage from that also. People hate my serves.
     
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  20. dr325i

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    Not officially rated but play competitively against the guys that play 4.5 and 5.0 leagues in Dallas.
    I (conservatively) rate myself a strong 4.0, although, out of five 4.5 guys mentioned above, I consistently beat 4 of them.
    We also have a "league" going at the company I work for (big in Dallas) and out of 8-10 players, usually 5 or 6 of them are former D1/D2 college players or current 4.5 league players...

    So, not sure what my true rating would be...
     
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  21. tennis_balla

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    2.5, but only on a good day. :)
     
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  22. sureshs

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    Once or twice a year
     
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  23. HughJars

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    A video would be good
     
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  24. tennis_balla

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    dr325i isn't lying, he's legit. I can confirm
     
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  25. onehandbh

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    no idea. but I'd guess just a few a match.

    in my last doubles match I hit 3 or 4 in two service games. I'd say
    this was an anomaly.
     
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  26. r5d3

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    I was a 3.5, slumped all the way to a 2.9 and have scratched myself back to about 3.3, but I can serve. Well. Just not consistently well, but enough for 5-10 aces a match.
     
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    im a high school player my serve sucks lol im a prob weak 4.0 though i get like 5 aces per year like no joke but my serve is filled with spin so i get atleast 35% unreturned serves which is as good as an ace
     
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  28. dr325i

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    I used to train with Tennis_Balla for over a year in Prague. A year later, I believe I am about 0.25-0.5 level higher than when playing with him.
    He is an experienced coach, so, he can give you (and me) an idea. I don't really care about the ratings.
     
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  29. Bergboy123

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    I'm loving the responses! I just wish I could be among you with 5-10 per match, haha!
     
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  30. Fuji

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    Clean aces? If I'm competing against someone my own level it's usually 5+ a match. If we are counting service winners it's probably double to triple that. My serve is the only reason my game is where it is. :razz:

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  31. loosegroove

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    4.0 here. Serve is the weakest part of my game. So I'd say on average it would be less than 1 per match. Though I do serve with a fair amount of spin (unfortunately just slice, not kick), so people often have a difficult time hauling off on or sometimes even just timing my serve.
     
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  32. AlpineCadet

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    Update, hard to get aces unless Im going all out to quickly end the match with low percentage serves, also a bonus if there's weaker oppnents. No aces this week :(
     
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  33. GoudX

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    I tend to hit around an ace or two every three service games. My game is based around getting unreturned serves, which I get by varying spins and mixing up placement, however the majority of my first serves are down the T, which is unlikely to be a clean ace.

    Funnily enough, one of my most common aces is the deuce side second serve, as I usually hit it out wide, with a ton of spin. Noticing this, the opponent cheats over expecting another serve out wide, so instead I rip it down the T, and the spin kicks it away and over their backhand.

    On return, I don't think that I have ever been ace'd more than 3 times in a set, and the only person to pull that off had a ridiculous low percentage sliding slice serve. If an opponent aces me more than that, then they have a brilliant serve or they are throwing away plenty of points on serve. Obviously, if I played Karlovic he could pull off 12 aces in a set and not need to hit a single other serve, however if you are playing someone of the correct level 2-3 is a reasonable level of aces for someone who's main weapon is the serve. There are also plenty of players who can beat me, who have no hope of ever hitting an ace against me, so it is not the most important measure of playing ability.
     
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  34. Govnor

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    4.0 here. I 'd say I average 1 per match. I just don't have the power to get it out of their reach! My aim is to get a good serve in most of the time, it I get an ace, it's really more luck than anything.
     
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  35. spaceman_spiff

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    I'd probably be a 4.5 if I were in the US, based on how easily I beat my brother (USTA 4.0) and his buddies when I visit.

    I usually get about 5 aces in a doubles match when I'm serving well, all down to disguise and placement. Usually, I'll get two or three from sneaky second serves (using the same toss as my normal kick serve but going the other way with slice). The other two or three come from decent first serves that don't go where my opponents are expecting.

    Generally though, I'm just looking to get weak returns so that my partner can poach or I can hit an easy approach volley. Sometimes, I get an ace out of it.
     
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  36. NLBwell

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    I'm a 4.0 now, and probably average about 1 or 2 clean aces per match. My serve is much more a spin serve these days, though I get a lot of free points off of it.
    When my serve was at it's peak, I probably averaged about 2 clean aces a serve game. It's what allowed me to compete with the top college players and open-level players in Texas, even though the rest of my game was not consistently at that level. (kind of a shorter Ivo Karlovic)
     
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    Im a college player (5.0) and I'm happy/lucky with one ace. However, I do win a lot of free points from it lol
     
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    proof? Even gage brymer couldn't play in orange bowl...
     
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    Isn't orange bowl for college kids?
     
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    My serve is getting back to old form. In a 3 setter, I can hit 3-5.
     
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    there is a college part to it but Monfil, Tsonga, Delpo, etc played in orange bowl. Its an international tournament for the best players
     
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    That was my bad It really was the easter bowl. I honestly DID play in the easter bowl 2012. Please believe me when I say that I meant to say easter, not orange bowl, I really did not know what I was thinking.
     
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    if i'm going for it, then average about 3 per service game (assuming we are playing points at the end of a lesson...and the kid i'm coaching is a mini red age player...and I get to serve using yellow balls...on a full size court)
     
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    okay haha that makes much more sense now :)
     
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    Haha I'm glad you understand! I figured people would like accuse of lying. But yes I am no where along the lines of playing an the orange bowl, easter bowl...yes:)
     
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    You're from Florida, we kick butt at tennis so you never know. :)
     
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    Do we serve (first serves) for aces, or do we serve to win the point?
    Two different things.
    Being lefty, I can win more points serving into the body, ignoring the occasional mishit winners, and get a weak floaty return about 80% of the time.
    Of course, I can miss the ensuiing shot, which is why I'm a high 3.5 singles player.
    But if I'm going for aces, my target box is less than 4 square feet, either up the center or out wide.
    Which to go for depends on lots of things.
     
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    Epic! Lol. :D
     
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    I'll bet Ash can look like Milos when he's serving to wheechair guys.
     
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    Omg.... leeD .... :eek: such bad taste but so funny
     
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