How many calories do you consume daily and how much do you exercise?

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  1. maggmaster

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    I started seriously tracking macros when I wanted to play college soccer and needed to get my body composition into a more optimal range. I was a bit chubby in high school. So I tracked everything and got myself to 135 lbs at around 10% body fat, when I stopped playing soccer I allowed myself to settle at 155 at around 14% body fat which is comfortable for me to maintain. It is actually quite nice to know exactly what you need to do to drop weight or change body composition.
     
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  2. movdqa

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    > Roughly; it's still based on an estimated average calorific
    > value, so if you want to extend the analogy, it's like having
    > an experienced coach estimate your serve speed. Of course,
    > if you ever cook anything, or eat anything prepared, then the
    > whole thing goes out the window.

    But it's better than estimating your own serve, right?

    > I'm curious, though, why would you do this? I'd consider
    > it a sign of a potential borderline eating disorder, or at
    > least an unhealthy relationship with food.

    There's plenty of research that shows that tracking calories help in losing weight. Just the act of tracking it probably has a psychological effect to avoid cheating. It also gives you tools to manage dietary composition.

    > I don't know why you seem to be getting defensive
    > about your methods. If you're happy with them, great.
    > I'll stick with my statement, which wasn't directed at
    > you, but was of general applicability.

    I don't think that you're aware of the number of people that use tracking methods in all kinds of varieties of sports and for those losing weight. Modern quantitative tools make it easier to track a wide variety of things with relative ease. The data from these tools can then be used for further research.

    Are you familiar with six sigma?
     
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  3. Roddick85

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    I'm a bit puzzled by what some of the others are posting in terms of overall calories intake, unless your like 5ft tall, working out and taking under 2500 calories a day doesn't seem like a healthy choice.

    I'm 6ft 190lbs. I do weights/circuit training 2-3 times a week (adjusting that with my tennis schedule). I play tennis 3 times a week on average for 2 hours at a rather high level (4.0+). If the weather is good, I'll put in one or two sessions with the ball machine as well, if that's the case, i cut the weight training to 2 sessions a week. Cal wise, depending what i'm trying to achieve, it varies between 2800 and 3000 a day.
     
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  4. Thud and blunder

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    I agree; you probably have a much better handle on your caloric intake than 95% of the population...I'm sure this could definitely help in losing weight. Even the minimalistic approach of maintaining a conscientous food diary can go a long way. If it works, there's no arguing with it.

    But my general reservation (ie not relating to your post) is along the line of Roddick85's; the calories reported by many (most) in this thread don't seem to tally with their reported levels of activity, or even pass a vague plausibility test.

    In fact, here I think the serve speed analogy is a good one. I think a lot of people come up with their 'number' along the lines of '80mph?! pffft, hacker! Pros are like, what, 140, right? OK, I admit, I'm nowhere near that, but I serve harder than my friends, so let's kind of split the difference and say I must be up to at least 100mph'. Here it's along the lines of '2500kcal; whoah, sounds way too much...isn't that what the average lardass eats?! I'm not slurping pizzas like those dudes, I'm actually pretty damn healthy...OK, let's call it 2000kcal then. BTW I'm a 6ft, 165lb guy who works out 3 times a week and plays tennis for two hours every day'.
     
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  5. maggmaster

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    Like I said I eat 4300 calories on training days and my weight hasn't moved more than +-3 lbs in like 10 years.
     
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  6. movdqa

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    > But my general reservation (ie not relating to your post)
    > is along the line of Roddick85's; the calories reported by
    > many (most) in this thread don't seem to tally with their
    > reported levels of activity, or even pass a vague plausibility
    > test.

    Some may be just doing off-the-cuff stuff. I've been with a large group of people doing this and most people find that their estimates are way off compared to what they find when they actually track. There are these little snacks during the day that are easy to forget about.

    Weight-watchers has a pretty big client base and their approach is based on calorie-counting though it's somewhat of a derivative system. I was pretty skeptical about food tracking a few years ago but a friend lost 95 pounds in about a year through a combination of interval training, food tracking and low-carb. I was at a plateau and added food tracking and low-carb and that got me the other 50% of my weight loss.

    On calories and activity differences - age may be a big factor - I could probably consume twice as many calories in my 20s compared to today. On some heavy weekend workout days, I could down 7K calories and not gain any weight.

    > In fact, here I think the serve speed analogy is a
    > good one. I think a lot of people come up with their
    > 'number' along the lines of '80mph?! pffft, hacker!
    > Pros are like, what, 140, right? OK, I admit, I'm
    > nowhere near that, but I serve harder than my
    > friends, so let's kind of split the difference and say
    > I must be up to at least 100mph'. Here it's along
    > the lines of '2500kcal; whoah, sounds way too
    > much...isn't that what the average lardass eats?!
    > I'm not slurping pizzas like those dudes, I'm
    > actually pretty damn healthy...OK, let's call it
    > 2000kcal then. BTW I'm a 6ft, 165lb guy who
    > works out 3 times a week and plays tennis for
    > two hours every day'.

    It is hard to tell what people are like on electronic forums.

    I consider tennis somewhat of a luxury sport and I run into people here that are well off. In some cases they are accomplished professionals and in others, it seems like they have a lot of wealth - either their own or their parents'. We have at least one person willing to spend $5K for Djokovic's frame used at Wimbledon - and he got it. I was willing to as well but the sale was only for Brits and I couldn't figure out how to do a bid on it. THe guy that got it was from another country but he managed to place a bid remotely.

    People that are well-off would probably not have a problem getting their service speed tested. One of the guys that I play with had his serve clocked at 120+ MPH. He owns his own construction business with about ten employees and he does a fair amount of traveling. He's 6'5", probably about 250 pounds and he is a very strong guy. I don't have any problem believing that he could hit a 120 MPH serve.

    I work as a software engineer and quality is very, very important. We have an incredible number of automated processes to facilitate quality and add processes when we find problems that could be systemic. We also track a wide variety of things so that we can find out where we have problems so that we can address them in a systematic way. This approach is standard in industry and it's why we can take quality for granted in a lot of the products that we buy.

    Some people also apply this to how they live their lives - basically continuous process improvement for people. Big data is pushing this approach in politics, medicine, marketing, traffic control, etc.
     
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  7. Jeebs

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    2000 calories from protein and veg alone is quite a lot.
     
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    No sane person skips a large amount of carbs though!!
     
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    If I have a match I carb up before, but otherwise 0 direct carbs with the odd refeed works really well for me.
     
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    It is a fact that one hour of competitive singles tennis on average consumes 700 kcal for a 200 lb guy.
    The college stud, like yourself, should be Able to figure that out in no time.
    Therefore, I am not WAY off...

    It is simple, people with slow metabolism burn less calories and opposite. However, if you eat more than you spend/burn, you will gain weight and the other way around...
     
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    What's happened with the milk thread? Was there some drama in there?
     
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    why do you say stud? I am a pretty small guy. And, since it is a fact, can you please post a link to support your claim. that way it is fact and not onion.

    http://www.sparkpeople.com/resource/calories_burned.asp

    I dont know about you, but I doubt I run more than a mile running when playing.

    Your bolded "Able" aslo indicates some hostility. do you resent people who have gone to or are in a university?

    regardless have a nice day dr325i
     
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  15. maggmaster

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    700 is possible in high intensity singles.
     
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    please help me with the math, where are you guys getting 700 from. you burn way more calories running than tennis, as it is more cardiovascular.
     
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    Only the "A" in able is bolded. The word "WAY" is actually bolded. Stupid to assume he/she would resent people who have gone to university off a word that has the first letter bolded. Hope your Not a psych Major.
     
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    why do you not like psychology?
     
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  19. maggmaster

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    You actually do not burn more calories running. Studies have shown that due to the short rest between points the heart stays in the aerobic zone for almost the entirety of a tennis match. My heart rate data bears this out.
     
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  20. dr325i

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    Go to myfitnesspal.com.
    Choose Exercise, type "tennis singles" and your weight and time.
    190 lbs of tennis singles for 60 minutes is 690 kcal.

    ONE hour of running will definitely burn more calories than ONE HOUR of tennis! but not by much!
    However, one hour of tennis includes sprinting, resoveries, involves other parts of body exercise that jogging does not employ, serving...

    The math is VERY simple...
     
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  21. Jeebs

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    Tennis is more akin to interval training which iirc burns more calories for the equivalent time than steady state.
     
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  22. movdqa

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    Steady-state recreational running doesn't burn that many calories. Probably 70 calories for a normal-weight women to a hundred for a normal weight man. I fond that singles gives me a better workout than steady-state running and the interval aspect is a big factor there.

    Interval-training also gives you calorie burn for many hours after the event by keeping you metabolism level elevated. Google the hierarchy of fat loss for details.
     
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