How Many Gut Manufacturers?

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  1. davidahenry

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    Just wondering...

    I know there are many different natural gut brands such as:

    Babolat
    Prince
    Wilson
    BDE
    Klip
    Bow
    Pacific

    But how many different gut manufacturers are there? I know Babolat makes Wilson natural gut. I am willing to bet someone besides Prince makes Prince natural gut. I am fairly certain Bow makes their own natural gut. But I am not sure about the others. Any input would be appreciated.

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  2. ODYSSEY Mk.4

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    ive heard it was BDE that makes princes gut
     
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  3. Applesauceman

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    I've heard the same thing, BDE Performance is Prince Natural Gut.
     
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  4. tennisfreak15347

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    so then all in all there are only about 3-4 gut manufacturers?
     
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  5. Applesauceman

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    Are you trying to choose a natural gut?
     
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  6. davidahenry

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    Nope. Just curious. Call me crazy, I just find it interesting to know things like this.

    I've played with VS on several occasions and love it. I just bought a used stringing machine, and the guy who sold it to me threw in a set of Klip Legend (uncoated), so I will try that soon.
     
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  7. jim e

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    Sounds like you have guts!
     
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    other than the quality of the natural gut itself, the only other difference would be how heavy the coating is. (am i correct?)
     
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    what are the coatings for? protection?
     
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  10. Rabbit

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    the coatings are for durability. They protect the string from humidity.
     
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  11. davidahenry

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    So we can pare the list down a little...

    Babolat/Wilson
    BDE/Prince
    Bow
    Klip/Titan
    Pacific
    Emerson (formerly known as Global Gut Factory)
    Maillot Savarez
    Gamma (But I know they don't make them. Does anyone know who does?)
    Grand Slam Gut (Still in business?)
    Klippermate (But I know they don't make them. Does anyone know who does?)

    Any further consolidation? Any gut brands I'm missing?

    Thanks Gang.
     
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  12. davidahenry

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    You're a funny cat, jim e. :)

    Hey, by the way... I just purchased the same machine as you - SAM Pro-Master. I love it! We'll have to "talk" outside of this forum and share experiences or just go on and on about how much we love our machines. :) Feel free to email me anytime. davidahenry@ l y c o s. c o m

    Go Buckeyes!
     
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  13. ls206

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    Has Titan gut been mentioned? (I've read it's not very good but you still want it in the list right?)
     
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  14. davidahenry

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    Added it above. Thanks.
     
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  15. Rabbit

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    Titan is produced by Klip and is basically their line of seconds.
     
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  16. davidahenry

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    Thanks Rabbit. I combined Klip and Titan in the list above.
     
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  17. davidahenry

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    Has anyone ever heard of or tried Emerson Natural Gut? I believe they are a company in India that used to be called Global Gut Factory. I'll add them to my list above.

    Thanks.
     
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    Maillot Savarez
     
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  19. davidahenry

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    Got it. Thanks psp2.
     
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  20. meowmix

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    Isn't there a German gut? Don't know who manufacturers it, but I've heard it's pretty good.
     
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  21. Djokovicfan4life

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    What about Grand Slam gut?
     
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  22. anirut

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    Emerson ... is their quality good, or at least up to par?

    Not that I have anything against Indian products. My ability to use English is a result of Indian education anyway.
     
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  23. Rabbit

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    The only German company I know of making natural gut is Pacific.

    Global Gut had some quality issues. I received a demo sample from TW. I hit with it once and it was very very old school in feel, which I loved. Very responsive and felt like I used to remember gut feeling in wood. However, it broke in my bag overnight after the one outing.
     
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  24. meowmix

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    ^About the German gut, some players on here have reported about buying it off the bay. Supposedly it's made out of sheep intestines?
     
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  25. Rabbit

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    No, I think it's pirated.
     
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    Thanks Rabbit.

    The responsiveness and feel sound nice.

    Was that string breaking in the bag just a one occasion event? Do you at least remember where it broke? Was it somewhere at the grommet or right in the middle?
     
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    Does Gamma make their natural gut? Or do they rebrand someone else's.....
     
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  28. davidahenry

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    I am not aware of a natural gut string by Gamma. I think all of their strings are synthetic. As far as their synthetics, I believe they are all made for Gamma by Toalson in Japan.
     
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  30. davidahenry

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    VGP - Thanks for the links. I learn something new everyday! I did not know Gamma had natural gut strings. Since Gamma is a marketing company and not a manufacturer, I wonder who makes their natural gut. If anyone knows, please post a reply. Thanks.
     
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  31. crism54

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    and dunlop match gut?
     
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    Regarding Emerson:
    Never tried it, but their gut is recommended only at tensions <62 for 16g. Its called AS wild touch or Global Natural gut. It is only about $15 for a full set which is the cheapest around. But you have to buy 10 sets for $150, so I decided not to risk it..
     
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  34. scotus

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    I have one of my racquets freshly strung with Gamma Natural Gut 17G.

    Will let you know how it plays as soon as I get to test it out.
     
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  35. VGP

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    It just looks that way because within the cardboard packaging, the string is vacuum packed in a protective foil to preserve it......
     
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  36. davidahenry

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    Does this string exist? I can't find it for sale anywhere. Thanks.
     
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  37. davidahenry

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    Cool. Looking forward to your review. Does anyone know who makes it? I am 99.9% sure Gamma doesn't make it - they just market and sell it.

    Thanks.
     
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  38. jim e

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    Says it is made in France. Do you think there is multiple gut tennis string manufactures in France? I wonder if Babolat makes this as well.
     
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  39. davidahenry

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    Quite possible. The price for Gamma's top natural gut is $34.95 (on a-t-s-sports. c o m). That is the same price point as VS at most online retailers.

    Maillot Savarez natural gut strings are also made in France. Perhaps Gamma uses them?

    Thanks.
     
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    Oh, Klippermate also sells Natural gut on its website. However, I doubt that they make their own. Anybody know who makes it?
     
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    I really don't remember if it broke at a turn or in the center of the stringbed. The racket it broke in had no grommet issues with any other strings though.
     
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  42. davidahenry

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    Added them to the list - thanks. I agree with you... I seriously doubt Klippermate makes their nat gut.
     
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  43. scotus

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    Are you the artist formerly known as "Drakulie"?
     
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