How many more Slams do you think Nadal will win?

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  1. Clarky21

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    He lost to him,but I don't think he was "wipedout". He still pushed Nadal and made their matches close. He can and will end up beating Nadal on clay again,including at RG.



    Wait a minute. Didn't you say Nadal had a great year last year even though he lost final after final to the same guy? Why do you think ******* had a bad year when his year has been very similar?


    No.


    No,I mean ******* has been more dominant than Nadal ever has throughout their careers. Even though ******* peaked later,he has dominated practically every tournament he has played for nearly 2 years now. Nadal has never done that throughout his whole career.
     
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  2. 90's Clay

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    2 More French Opens
    1-2 more wimbledons
    1 more AO.

    4-5 more possibly. Giving him 15-16 slams to end his career.
     
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  3. Clarky21

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    Whatever you want to believe,but you are definitely way off on this one.
     
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  4. veroniquem

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    No, not even Agassi. Agassi won 32 titles before he turned 26. And 28 from 26 onwards. You can check, it works for all the tennis greats. You can take the # of titles Rafa or Novak win by their 26th birthday and be pretty confident that whatever they win afterwards will be less than that. So Rafa will win less than 50 titles in the future :( :)
     
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  5. BauerAlmeida

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    But we're talking about slams here. He won 3 before the slump and 5 afterwards. And you said 25 first, not 26:). So even for overall titles it would work.

    Even the AO that was the last GS he won before the slump was in 1995, the year he turned 25 (but a few months before his birthday).
     
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  6. Towser83

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    oh come on MC was a slaughter, Rome a bit better but still straight sets. RG was looking like that too til Novak got better for a while and was screwed by the match being taken off, or was allowed to win a set only cos of the rain- you choose which reason.

    And I don't think Djokovic has had a terrible year in 2012, i'm just going by what you said about nadal's 2011 and djoko's 2012.

    I don't know what you mean by dominated every tournament. Can't be winning the same event all the time, so must be winning it easily. Which is only true of the AO and Wimbledon in slams, perhaps some some masters too. Still Nadal has won RG, MC, Rome, Madrid and Barca easily multiple times.
     
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  7. MichaelNadal

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    I think he'll get 4 more slams before he retires if he comes back healthy and ready to go. He doesn't want to retire till 2016 so it's feasible if he's healthy.
     
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  8. veroniquem

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    I said : before and at (meaning until the player turns 26). Sure it only works for titles overall. Novak can still try to emulate Agassi in slams :)
     
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  9. Towser83

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    She's not a Djokovic fan. And no offence but it's kind of frustrating when people say "you are this and if you deny it, that proves my point!" cos if it's not true, of course they will deny it.. so it's a no win situation for the accused :lol:
     
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    So I guess it depends where the 25 goes, if in the "before" or the "after", :) haha.

    But I wast just referring at the Slams anyway. He will probably end up winning less titles from now on than he already did, but he will focus mainly in slams (specially RG).
     
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  11. veroniquem

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    Novak will turn 26 next May, so he can still win plenty before the inexorable descent starts...
     
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  12. Clarky21

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    No I'm not. And I have no idea how anyone could even remotely think I am. Lol.
     
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    This is silly. He will only be 26,and still in young in tennis years. He won't have any trouble winning slams/titles after this mythical number you keep talking about comes and goes.
     
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  14. Prisoner of Birth

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    If she weren't a Djokovic fan masquerading as a Nadal fan, she'd just be like, "Meh, whatever dude" when I accuse her. She wouldn't be like, "ZOMG I HATE ******* AND LOVEZZZ NADALZZ SINCE I WAS BORN."
     
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  15. librarysteg

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    This one is too hard to predict until he comes back. Like I saw in the Djokovic thread, I'm afraid Nadal is never going to come back as strong as he was. I hope I'm wrong. I think there's a good chance he'll win no more or only one, but I'm going to be optimistic and say three.
     
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  16. Prisoner of Birth

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    Nadal's "just" 26 as well and you're calling him a fossil :twisted:
     
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  17. veroniquem

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    Nadal is one year older than Djoko and Murray, that's why he's already in the fossilized stage of his career ;-)
     
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  18. Clarky21

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    It's about the mileage,and Nadal has a lot of miles on him.
     
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  19. Prisoner of Birth

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    He's rested now. Either way, noone expects him to win 10 more Slams (except NSK but even he's just trolling). It's just silly to say he's not gonna win any more, even at the Slam he's lost just once before. Besides, it's not like Djokovic is too far behind in milage.
     
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    This is some of the dumbest logic I have ever seen on here. If someone accused you of being something you're not you would defend yourself and say the opposite. I seriously cannot believe you think I am a ******* fan considering he is my least favorite player. I loathe him and his family. How anyone who reads my posts could think I am a fan of his is mindblowing since I have made it abundantly clear that he is a boil on the a** of the ATP that needs lanced with a quickness.
     
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  21. Prisoner of Birth

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    Because you attack him personally but not as a player. On the other hand, you attack Nadal both personally and as a player. I'll take the lesser of the two evils, thanks.
     
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    It doesn't matter how rested he is if he's hobbling around on 80 year old knees. I also don't think he's nearly as mentally tough as he used to be either,and his mental toughness is what has kept him in matches against far better and more talented players over the years. Losing that is nearly as bad as his knees turning to Jell-O.
     
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    Whatever you want to think,but like I already said,you are way off on this one.

    Also,I think ******* is a better all around player than Nadal. That's why I don't say much about his weaknesses because he has very few. He's the more talented of the two,but that doesn't mean I have to like him because I don't.
     
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  24. Prisoner of Birth

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    Your reasons for hating Djokovic are flimsy at best.
     
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    I don't think they are. At least not to me. I don't like his on court celebrations,his family,his arrogance,his rope-a-doping,his shady character,his over the top patriotism,his hypocrisy,his foul mouth,the way he treats linesmen,his on court demeanor,etc... He's just the type of player that rubs me the wrong way,and when you add in his obnoxious Hillfolk family,it's over for him with me.
     
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  26. Prisoner of Birth

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    Nadal (who is apparently your favorite player) celebrates just as heavily as Djokovic. Arrogance, well, he's extremely humble and gracious in defeat so that evens it out. His rope-a-doping also isn't too unlike Nadal or Murray for that matter. I don't recall his patriotism being "over the top" but even if it was, that's not a terrible thing at all. Linesmen, I'll give you that. His on-court demeanor, I don't even know what you mean by that. He applauds his opponent's good shots. His family, yeah, they're better off with their mouths shut, but that doesn't have anything to do with him, personally.
     
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  27. Clarky21

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    No. Have you ever seen Nadal strip on court after a win? How about tearing off his clothes like the hulk? How about roaring and beating his chest like a gorilla? His behavior is obnoxious,and put me off right away. He's a horrible winner in every way.


    No again. I think his graciousness is all an act. His real character comes out when he wins,and it's ugly.


    Well,I think he's the worst about it followed by Andy. He sucks air like a fish out of water and acts dead but then goes out there and runs around like a rabbit. I also wouldn't trust his supposed injuries even if they came notarized.



    Well,it is. Another thing that bugs me is how he preaches his love for Serbia all the while living in MC and paying no taxes there. That's the hypocrisy I mentioned earlier.


    The applauding of his opponents shots is him being a smart*ss,imo. And notice how he usually only does that when he's in a winning postion. It's not sincere,and to me is just more of his arrogance shining through.


    Yes they are,but they don't seem bright enough to figure that out. They insult and demean Nadal,Fed,Murray and whoever else the feel like on a regular basis. I'd be ashamed if they were related to me,and would bar them from coming to my matches,or giving interviews about me.


    Oh,and I also don't like his car humping,disrespectful coach who also likes to run his gob whenever he feels like it.
     
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  28. Prisoner of Birth

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    Well, okay, but his graciousness in defeat isn't an act. I doubt even Daniel Day-Lewis could fake graciousness that well once he's come out of a long, tiresome match in defeat.
     
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  29. librarysteg

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    How can you *loathe* a tennis player? I don't get when people seem to have such hatred for people they don't know personally. It's weird.
     
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  30. Tony48

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    She anti-jinxed Nadal so hard that he quit tennis.

    Immediately after Rosol loss: "Nadal won't win another tennis match for the rest of his life!"

    Oops
     
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    Look,I don't have to like everybody on earth,and I don't like *******. I guess everything I wrote as to why I don't like him went right over your head.


    And I never said I hated him. Loathe and hate have two different meanings,you know. Also,have you never disliked someone you didn't know personally? I highly doubt you haven't.
     
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  32. vive le beau jeu !

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    ... PGA slams.
     
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  33. batz

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    Loathe and loath have 2 different meanings, but to loathe is synonymous with to hate.
     
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  34. OverratedIvanovic

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    I think at most he has 2-3 RGs left. He might win 1 wimbly if he gets lucky with the draw but I dont think he can win a hardcourt slam now.
     
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  35. 6-1 6-3 6-0

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    Yep, Djokovic's inability to win more than a set in 4 meetings with Nadal at Roland Garros sure indicates that he can beat him there.

    This thread is merely wishful thinking, particularly the people who think he won't win a slam ever again.

    Nadal will never stop winning Roland Garros; it's his pet slam, and he's the only king of a slam in the Open Era (7 Roland Garros titles, a record). Then the discussion won't be whether or not Nadal can pass 17 slams, but how far PAST 17 slams he can go.

    It's all fun and games until Nadal wins 18 slams. That's a permanent fixture on the hearts of all federer fans.
     
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  36. Def

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    Not sure if trolling but... I think that his best bet are the hard court slams, he's made every hard court slam final since the 2010 USO. I think he may win 1-3 more AO, 0-2 RG (More likely just 1), 0-1 Wimbledon (if he is lucky one year), and 1-2 USO. Leaving him with probably around 7-9 slams.
     
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  37. OverratedIvanovic

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    Umm No, he lost in QF to Ferrer at AO 2011 so he hasn't made every hardcourt final since 2010 USO.

    And how are hardcourt slams his best bet :confused:? At the moment there are 2 better HC players than him - Djokovic and Murray. The only chance I see him winning a HC slam is Federer takes out Djokovic for him in the semis and he can beat Federer. Either way he has to go through either Djokovic or new Murray most probably to win a HC slam which won't be easy. And this is assuming he will be back at the same level where he was and will be consistently making 2nd week. 6-7 months without match practice is a long period and he is no longer 24.
     
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  38. Steve0904

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    The problem with this is that even if he gets to 18 or more slams he needs more slams away from clay to truly surpass Federer, and I'm not sure he's got many of those left.
     
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    Who cares if Nadal wins 10 French Opens in the grand scheme of things? He's already the greatest claycourter of all time. If he gets upset by Rosols at Wimbledon and falls to Djokovic on the hard courts his legacy won't be that of a GOAT.
     
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    I thought I was on the Djokovic Slam Thread, my bad :oops:
     
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    The problem with you is that you are so deluded that even when Rafa retires and probably in his 70's or 80's , you would believe that he will come back from retirement and win the FO.
     
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    I wouldn't be surprised if Clarky and BULLZ1LLA/6-1, 6-3, 6-0 were the same person. They both have extraordinarily different ways of exhibiting their love for Nadal but they both exercise the same degree of delusion.

    This must be a fun game for him or her.
     
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  43. librarysteg

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    From Merriam Webster:

    Definition of loathe: "to dislike greatly and often with disgust or intolerance : detest" synonym: hate.

    Definition of hate: "extreme dislike or antipathy : loathing"

    So yes, they have essentially the same meaning. I expect everyone to have their favorites and least favorites. I just really don't get the hate and loathing and posting about it non-stop. I would enjoy someone explaining the mindset to me so maybe I do understand it. And no, I've honestly never hated someone I don't know. With athletes and celebrities I have my favorites and least favorites, but my least favorites don't generate that level of negative emotion they seem to for a lot of people around here. Psychologically and Sociologically, I'm becoming interested in the phenomenon. Like I said, it seems weird to me, and I'd like a better understanding.
     
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  44. RF20Lennon

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    Nadal will win 3 or 4 more RG's
     
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    what with the icon on every quote , it is distracting to say the least [----------delete post-----------]
     
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  46. tudwell

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    I predict he'll win three more and match Sampras with 14 slams.
     
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    Nadal has 2 more RGs left in him. Just remember how taxing each season is and the wear and tear of the grind on the tour. 2 years from now, his body will show his age. There's a reason why players are at their ends at 29. Look at the sharp decline of the likes of Davydenko, Blake and Nalbandian. People may consider Federer the exception but Federer has won 2 out of the past 12 Slams and hasn't had even 1/10 as many physical problems as Nadal. Every new season becomes harder and harder. The past has no bearing on the future.
     
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    Hang on a minute..

    11 + 8 = 19. Fed's record is 17

    From the how many slam's will Djokovic win thread

    Classic NadalAgassi :lol:
     
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  49. NadalAgassi

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    Federer is probably winning more slams as well. He said he would play until 2016 and with the super field these days he will probably win atleast 2 more, considering there is nobody outside the current top 4 who can win a slam for another 6 years or so probably, the exact same reasons my predictions for all of Djokovic, Nadal, and Murray were so high too, since mugs of the worthless up and coming generation like Raonic and Tomic arent winning squat all except 1 fluke slam amongst them all if lucky. As usual your attempted point is no point.
     
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  50. cc0509

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    Six years? That is too long imo. It is true that the current crop of young players seem lacking in talent but there will be somebody who will come in and step up to beat the top four for sure by six years from now! The top four won't be playing in six years from now, they will all be retired! There will be a junior or two who will come in by that time and step up or one of the guys now who is "iffy" such as Raonic may be step up or even Tomic if he can ever get his head together.
     

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