how much is an Olympic gold in single mean to Federer and Senera?

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  1. hlkimfung

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    Agassi had it, Kafenikov had it, Mecir had it, even the Swiss Rosset had it
    Sampras didn't (did he even play?)

    Graf had it, Capriati had it, Davenport had it, Venus had it,Henin had it

    just wonder how importance is the gold in single in completing the GOAT package

    let's discuss
     
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  2. NickH87

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    I mean its a once in every four years tournament, you are representing your country on the biggest global stage, I thing it should mean a lot to any player in any sport to place and receive a medal.
     
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  3. kingdaddy41788

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    I think Fed really wants it. And he has an outside shot at it for sure. And I'm American and I hope Serena doesn't get it, so that should tell you a lot.
     
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  4. Rippy

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    Well I'd say Fed is already GOAT, but there's no doubt he really wants to win it. I can't imagine he'd have much chance in 2012 though.
     
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  5. valiant

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    I wana meet senera :D
     
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  6. Semi-Pro

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    How so? Its going to be played Wimbledon on grass, his best surface....surely he has a big chance on attaining it.
     
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  7. Rippy

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    Well true, it being on grass will certainly help. I just think by 2012, he will probably be a bit too old.
     
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  8. All-rounder

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    Federer will be 31 years old by then
     
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  9. LameTennisPlayer

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    me too, is she russian, sounds like dinara lol....
     
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  10. LameTennisPlayer

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    or dead like the rest of the world..... or is that a few months later( i never really pay attention to when the world is gonna end)
     
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  11. valiant

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    I sure hope so :twisted:
     
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    nothing at all
     
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  13. davey25

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    I would rate the Olympics at best as less important than a year end Championships title, and slightly above a Masters or tier 1. Some would argue I am being generous and it should be just behind a Masters and tier 1 just like the ATP and WTA points have it. Either way in the big picture of their careers very little to anything. It is unlikely either will win it either given both will be around 31 come the 2012 Olympics.
     
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  14. ChanceEncounter

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    The ATP seems to think that the Master 1000s are more important than the Olympics.
     
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  15. boredone3456

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    To me its just another tournament. It happens every 4 years so it has a little bit more novelty but to have it as a qualification for greatness to me is ridiculous as it is not something every player in history has had a shot at, being that there was 60 years when it was not available. Its cool in that not only are you playing for yourself but also for your country (much like Fed & Davis Cup), but it really doesn't have much value other then another tick in the tournament column to me. Its much more of a symbolic thing, for some people its means a lot more than for others.
     
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  16. davey25

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    I agree. The Olympics is the biggest and biggest prize out there in many amateur sports. In very few if any pro sports that are included in the Olympics is this the case. Tennis certainly fits into that category. IMO tennis at best is below a WTA or ATP year end Championships title but above a Masters or WTA tier 1, while at worst it is below a Masters or WTA tier 1.
     
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  17. NickH87

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    With all of the masters tournaments a pro player plays and the top guys like nadal/djoko/fed win, Id sacrifice a masters shield for a gold medal because chances are you are only going to have a realistic shot at playing two maybe 3 olympics if you are lucky, but you have 10+ years to win a masters shield.
     
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  18. jamesblakefan#1

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    None at all, especially since tennis went so many years without even being an Olympic sport, and a lot of the all time greats didn't even get the opportunity to play there. It's only once every 4 years, there's no way possible that every single all time great could have an Olympic Gold - a guy like Massu has one but Fed doesn't. 99% know about Fed's 16 majors and counting and couldn't care less about Massu having Olympic Gold.
     
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  19. TheTruth

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    Not a big fan of the Olympics, so it wouldn't matter to me. I guess it depends on how they feel about it. I've never heard Serena mention it.
     
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  20. VictorS.

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    I get the feeling that winning the gold medal for the players personally can often rate as one of their proudest achievements. Agassi, for example, stated this in his recent biography. In addition, I read somewhere that the Russian females winning the bronze, silver & gold in singles was a really big deal in their native country. Perhaps even larger than had they won a grand slam title.

    From the standpoint of most avid tennis fans & media outlets, there seems to be less emphasis on the Olympics though. Federer really wanted to win the gold medal, I truly believe. However now that he's won the doubles gold. I really doubt he's worried about winning the singles.

    I get the feeling that the tennis players get a tremendous pride in representing their country. However, as great as that Massu-Fish gold medal match was in 2004 (I believe)....I doubt anyone will be comparing it with Fed-Nadal 08 Wimbledon.
     
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  21. LameTennisPlayer

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    this has ben posted before.....same answers as before
     
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  22. David L

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    Singles gold is not important at all in being GOAT. It's just a nice personal achievement and for one's country. It's nice to be able to call yourself an Olympic champion. As far as the tennis world is concerned, it does not have high status. Massu is not going to get into the tennis hall of fame because he won gold in singles and doubles, but he would be up for consideration if he won a Slam.
     
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  23. Knightmace

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    Well he does already have an olympic gold medal even though it;s not singles

    I want Fed to win at least Monte Carlo, Paris and Rome to complete the Masters series collection which no one has ever done before.
     
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  24. iriraz

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    He won a gold medal in doubles so it`s nothing different from singles.
    Winning a singles or doubles tournament is completely different throughout the tennis season but for Olympics is pretty much the same.The players aren`t there to win money but get some hardware and it makes no difference how they get it.
     
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  25. ChanceEncounter

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    But from a personal achievement perspective, it has to be more rewarding to get a singles gold medal, no?
     
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  26. Gizo

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    Agreed. That's the beauty of the olympics. All gold medals are of equal value to each other whether they have been won in the 400m freestyle in swimming, archery, weightlifting, singles tennis, doubles tennis etc.
    I would also say that it's better to win a gold medal in doubles than either silver or bronze in singles. At the grand slam events, the doubles events are clearly a sideshow compared to the singles, especially the 3 slams outside Wimbledon, which appears to be the only slam that values doubles as an important part of tennis and treats it with a decent level of respect. That is the view of many of the top doubles players. At the olympics each discipline in each sport are just as important as each other.
    As a further point, unlike in singles, in doubles tennis there is a strong case that the olympic gold medal is the ultimate prize, ahead of any of the slams (again especially those outside Wimbledon). I mean many tennis fans know that Gonzalez/Massu and Federer/Wawrinka won the gold medal in doubles at the 2004 and 2008 games respectively. Without looking it up, how many know or care that Knowles/Nestor won the US Open in 2004 for instance?
    Unless you are an avid fan of the Bryan brothers, Nestor, Paes etc, you probably don't know how many doubles slams they've won in total or at each event without checking good old wikipedia.
     
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  27. Andy G

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    I have an idea. How about you and all the retards like you stop writing 'discuss' when you post a thread. This is a forum, that's the point. F'in idiots **** me off.
     
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