How much ranking points would Nadal drop after skipping Toronto?

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  1. FreshTennisBalls7

    FreshTennisBalls7 New User

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    Would Nadal lose a good amount since the tournament is a Masters 1000 event? How far would Murray be away from taking the third seed if Murray wins Toronto or becomes a finalist?
     
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  2. Clarky21

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    He lost his first match there last year so he isn't defending much of anything.
     
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  3. tudwell

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    Nadal and Murray are both defending 10 points, so Nadal is not losing much but Murray could gain quite a bit. Not enough to overtake Nadal, though, I don't think.
     
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  4. TeflonTom

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    yeah muzz is over 1500 points behind nadal. v unlikely muzz will overtake nadal b4 the end of the yr. lots of pts to defend, nadz has practically none except his uso final

    kinda shows how much of a joke the tour is when u can accrue enough points by end of may that u can practically quit the rest of the yr and still finish top 5

    way too much clay on atp
     
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  5. Agassifan

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    Murray and Nadal will be virtually tied if Murray wins Toronto
     
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  6. TeflonTom

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    err no they wont brah. muzz will be almost 500 points behind still
     
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  7. merlinpinpin

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    Depends on Murray's run at Wimbledon part 2, so he could even overtake Nadal by the end of Toronto, depending on his results in London and Canada.
     
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  8. MichaelNadal

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    Hopefully Rafa is really being smart and getting ready in this time off. Finish the year as well as you can and rest some more in the off season. I don't expect him to play the WTF though if things keep up like this.
     
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  9. 6-1 6-3 6-0

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    Rafa has always come back stronger after a long break. (See 2010, where he became the first man in world history to win 3 consecutive grand slams in a calendar year, on 3 different surfaces, after losing in the 4th round of Roland Garros to Robin Soderling in 2009.)
     
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  10. DeShaun

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    And he always will because he defies the effects of aging? He really seems to have taken too many of these "long" breaks lately without them resulting in much hardware by his standards. It almost seems that he is becoming disinterested in staying on top of the game. He stated again recently that it's not about his ranking but only about him winning that matters, but the two sort of go hand in hand when you think about the level of winning, or the quality of wins (masters and slams) for which Rafa probably is still playing anymore.
     
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  11. MariaRafael

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    When Sampras said exactly the samething, nobody minded. When williamses are practically doing it know, everybody claps his hands. Nadal is always wrong. He is clever at least one thing: he doesn't read internet.
     
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  12. tennis_pro

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    I don't see people critisize him here for skipping Canada this year. Stop exaggerating.
     
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  13. kragster

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    Clay is about 30% of the calendar which is perfectly fine. It is HC that is over-weighted and grass that is massively under weighted. I don't see you complaining about HC?

    Depending on your viewpoint you can always find flaws with the ranking system - "It is a joke that the player who has won 2 of the last 4 slams is not the number 1 player while the player who has won only 1 slam is".At the end of the day, the points system is what it is, players are aware of it and this is the box in which the game is played.
     
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  14. augustobt

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    We thought that in Indian Wells...
     
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  15. sunof tennis

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    You are wrong, the Williams sisters have received a considerable amount of criticism, including here, for playing having played less than full time tennis during their primes.
    Most of us have no problems with Rafa taking time off to heal from his medical condition.
     
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