How Rafa dethroned Fed!

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  1. The-Champ

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    Is this article accurate or not? Discuss without bashing anyone please.















    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/sl_price/05/14/federer.nadal/index.html
     
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  2. 35ft6

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    ^ The Wilander comment is interesting. Nadal's point construction really is awesome. Most players pretty much move a player side to side but Nadal moves them up and down and side to side. And even on his forehand, he hits it with incredible variety. Never been a player who throws so many different speeds and heights at his opponent off his forehand.
     
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  3. veroniquem

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    Interesting. I agree with Wilander and Courier.
     
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  4. GameSampras

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    Of course Fed prefers the days where can beat up on the defenseless like One dimensional Frauddick, Flake, Davystinko, Spewitt, Saggyhaditis, Gonzales etc.

    Its a big difference now with the likes of Djoker, Murray, and now an surface Nadal who has tweaked his game nice at the top,

    Fed wants to be handed slams and play bums every round. He doesnt want to go through a prime Nadal, Djoker and Murray every slam to get it. Are u kidding me?

    Its obvious Fed does want to put the effort nor want to deal with top notch players. Hell he is too lazy to even get a coach. Hes been on cruise control for 4 years. Its no wonder
     
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  5. Cyan

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    This pretty much explains why Fed is a FRAUD and will never be considered GOAT. :oops:
     
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  6. 35ft6

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    I like Fed, he's a great number 1, loves the publicity, is gracious in public, is elegant on and off the court, but I agree with you, I don't think he enjoys the fight that much. He would rather players cower and hand him matches.
     
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  7. Bhagi Katbamna

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    Great analysis and story. After reading the entire article, I agree with Courier that Fed hasn't adjusted his game to take Nadal out of his comfort zone.
     
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  8. BobFL

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    and head.....
     
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  9. DarthFed

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    didn't the OP ask for no bashing?
     
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  10. clayman2000

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    And Sampras beat pusher Courier, big attitude Agassi, lucky Pioline, so dont make excuses
     
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    Spewitt handed pete two breadsticks for dinner in the USO finals.
     
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  12. P_Agony

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    You mean guys like old man Ljubicic who just spanked two top ten players?
     
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  13. fastdunn

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    Everybody thinks Federer should adjust, Federer should add more net games.

    How come not many people entertains ideas that Federer might be actually... NOT GOOD AT THOSE STUFF ????
     
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  14. vtmike

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    LOL...How long did it take to come up with those nicknames? Did you have nightmares last night? :)
     
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  15. luckyboy1300

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    well he's asking for a miracle in a place thrived with *******s and samprastards.
     
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  16. luckyboy1300

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    because he was once good at those stuff. they just rust because of non-use. federer won his first wimbledon serving and volleying, until it comes to no effect because the courts continually slows down.
     
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  17. GameSampras

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    Yea that guy. A guy who has done virtually NOTHING his entire career. Another 04-07 clown.
     
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  18. Cesc Fabregas

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    Federer admitted he doesn't want a rival he just wants to beat up an average field.
     
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  19. Cesc Fabregas

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    Ljubicic would never get to 3 in the world in a strong era.
     
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  20. fastdunn

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    Nope. Federer started dominating AFTER the surfaces slowed down.

    Wimbledon's surface renovations had been done 2001-2003 and USTA annouced they have slowed down the surface in 2003.

    Federer became succesfull AFTER reducing S&V at Wimbledon. Federer himself said he realized he S&V whenever he was in panick, right after he won his 1st Wimbledon with much less S&V. In fact, Federer was the leader of the current power baseline game which brought him to his reign.
     
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    lol

    pwned much?
     
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  22. GameSampras

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    Nope he wouldnt. I dont think he would even ever come close to sniffing a top 10 in a stronger era
     
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  23. LanceStern

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    He was past his prime this year and old, but still gave Murray a hard time.

    Even when Fed was in prime mode, I saw one masters series where Ivan took him to 3 tiebreakers.
     
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    it was the 2006 miami final
     
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  25. charliefedererer

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    I think the overall article is right on when it comes to Nadal's approach to improving himself.
    For Federer however, it seems to ignore that his approach to solving Nadal attacking his backhand was to keep working on that backhand. When he won at Hamburg, then played Rafa close at the French Open, Roger thought he was making progress. Last year was a lost year due to mono until the US Open. He was struggling just to get back to where he was physically, while Nadal was indeed improving.
    Now it's too late in his carreer to expect any significant change in his strokes. What he does need to do is work on refining his strategy, like attacking the second serve more, especially on break points.
     
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  26. rubberduckies

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    Well I see the other thread has been restored.
     
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  27. tennis-hero

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    then i call you out Rubberduckies
     
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  28. rubberduckies

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    LOL,.I remember you posting a picture of a guy in a wheelchair playing tennis, making fun of his disability, and then hoping that Nadal would end up like him.
     
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  29. The-Champ

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    What you said could be true, but you don't have to exaggerate to make a point. You don't see anyone calling Pete Sampras, Speete Sampras.




    This is a no bashing thread!
     
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  30. Povl Carstensen

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    Yeah gamesampras, immideatly derailing and ruining a thread by calling people names...
     
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