How rare is it to win multiple slams in the same year(Open ERA)?

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  1. Talker

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    How rare is it to win multiple slams in the same year(Open ERA)?

    (Looks like I have some free time today).

    NOTE: If your favorite player isn't here then wait a year and check back for the update.

    If you think your player deserves to be considered an all-time great check out below what it takes( a calender year GS winner would do it).

    I wanted to display the stats we all know in a different format, sometimes it makes things clearer (sometimes not).

    Laver is included in all of these since he won them all in '69.

    AO-RG done 3 times The hardest double to win.
    Laver( 69 ), Wilander( 88 ), Courier(92).

    AO-WB done 7 times
    Laver(69), Conners(74), Sampras(94,97), Federer(04,06,07)

    AO-UO done 7 times
    Laver(69), Newcombe(73), Conners(74), Wilander(88 ), Federer(04,06,07)

    RG-WB done 6 times
    Laver(69), Borg(78,79,80), Nadal(08 ), Federer(09)

    RG-UO done 6 times
    Laver(69), Vilas(77), Lendl(86,87), Wilander(88 ), Agassi(99)

    WB-UO done 12 times Piece of cake double.
    Laver(69), Conners(74,82), McEnroe(81,84), Becker(89), Sampras(93,95), Fed(04,05,06,07)

    Any double with the AO as one of them 17 times
    Any double with the RG as one of them 15 times
    Any double with the WB as one of them 24 times
    Any double with the UO as one of them 25 times

    The French is the hardest to win in any double slam of the year by a large margin Probably due to the different style of play on clay and the skills needed there.


    and 3 slams in one year.

    AO-RG-WB done 1 time
    Laver(69)

    AO-RG-UO done 2 times
    Laver (69), Wilander(88 )

    AO-WB-UO done 5 times
    Laver(69), Conners(74), Federer(04,06,07)

    RG-WB-UO done 1 time
    Laver (69)

    Any triple with the AO as one of them 9 times
    Any triple with the RG as one of them 4 times
    Any triple with the WB as one of them 7 times
    Any triple with the UO as one of them 8 times




    In my response to my first list where example Laver won 4 slams in a year he was in ALL lists causing some confusion, myself included.



    This list is ONLY winning the combinations listed, for example if a player won 3 GS in a year he will be listed in the 3 GS combination list and not duplicated in the 2 GS combination list.
    This changes the outlook quite a bit with the numbers.

    For 2 slams ONLY in one year.

    AO-RG done 1 time
    Courier(92)

    AO-WB done 1 time
    Sampras(94,97)

    AO-UO done 1 time
    Newcombe(73)

    RG-WB done 5 times
    Borg(78,79,80), Nadal(08 ), Federer(09)

    RG-UO done 4 times
    Vilas(77), Lendl(86,87), Agassi(99)

    WB-UO done 7 times Piece of cake double.
    Conners(82), McEnroe(81,84), Becker(89), Sampras(93,95), Fed(05)

    Any double with the AO as one of them 3 times
    Any double with the RG as one of them 10 times
    Any double with the WB as one of them 13 times
    Any double with the UO as one of them 12 times

    And 3 slams only in one year.

    AO-RG-WB done 0 time
    No one

    AO-RG-UO done 1 times
    Wilander(88 )

    AO-WB-UO done 4 times
    Conners(74), Federer(04,06,07)

    RG-WB-UO done 0 time
    No one

    Any triple with the AO as one of them 5 times
    Any triple with the RG as one of them 1 times
    Any triple with the WB as one of them 4 times
    Any triple with the UO as one of them 0 times

    4 slams in one year done 1 time.
    Laver won the calender GS in (69)
     
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  2. geese_com

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    Thanks for that analysis. Pretty interesting to see.
     
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    Your study would seem to make the case for Rod Laver being the GOAT.
     
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    It is a plus for Laver, but it takes a calender slam to be on all lists.

    I was considering doing it as ONLY 2 or ONLY 3 slams a year, this way Laver wouldn't end up on all entries. In that case Laver wouldn't end up on any entries, I would have to make an additional one for all GS's in a year to include Laver.
     
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    Wilander actually won Aussie, French and US in 88, not Aussie, French and Wimbledon!

    And LAVER is the GOAT:)
     
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  6. Talker

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    Corrected!


    Are you sure about Laver? :)
     
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  7. luckyboy1300

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    wilander is still the only man in history to win slams in all 3 surfaces (clay, grass and hardcourts) at least twice each. if roger defends his RG title next year he would be the next one.
     
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    I'm confused. So if Laver ONLY won the calendar slam as his only slams then he would be goat because he is on this list in every category?

    I think Federer is even more impressive on this list...look at how many times hes done each one.
     
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  9. akv89

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    It's an informative list. It looks like you're only looking at the calendar year (Jan - Dec). I think it might be more objective to look at how often players won multiple grand slams over any rolling year.
     
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    You have a point, I've added another list at the end of my first post, this list is only the slams listed, where as the first list was at least the slams listed, quite different.

    Laver is not quite so impressive here.
     
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  11. ZhengJieisagoddess

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    If the French Open is the hardest to win, then the GOAT MUST have a significant achievement in that category. I am no Laver fan -- heck, he was before my time and the only reason I pay attention to him is because Martina Navratilova says he was her hero-- but it seems that if you assume that, then the GOAT must have something there.
     
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    Every time I get in those GOAT discussions I can't remember ever changing anyones mind. There are good arguments at times though.
     
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  13. ceberus

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    So Laver is the only calendar SLAM winner? Nice.
     
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