How serious are we ??

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  1. Number1Coach

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    I know you have been critical of me and DB but it has always been with and honest , educated and also common sense mixed in , but where you have my respect is you do your homework , you listen well , this allows you to punch holes in TCF's story's that are made up as they go , I hope you keep this throughout your life instead of just believing what someone says, Facts are important !!!
    Its like when we vote because we "think" this is the guy that is for the people and we see 5 yrs later the prices of gas are killing the common man , yet one fact remains when Bush left office gas was a 1.87 a gallon so I ask do the fact show he is really for the people ??
     
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    BB, let’s say you prove us all wrong and in 5 years DB is ranked 10th for all 21 year olds. Today’s 10th ranked 21 year old is Matthew Barton with an ATP rank of #240. Last year he played 28 tournaments all over the world. His prize money for those 28 tournaments was $10,709

    How are you going to fund DB’s living, training, and travel expenses for the next …. What …. At least 7 years before he is break even? My expectation is he will need at least 3 years of combined training / ATP touring before you are ready to go full time on the circuit. He will need to have all of the weapons, tactics and strategies before you commit to full time travel / circuit.

    You are going to need one of two things … a really big bankroll … or a way to get some help with expenses.

    I understand you are fully committed to a touring pro result. If you did decide to go the D1 Baylor route it would be for help with the expenses during the training period. I personally don’t think there is time enough in the day for a D1 Baylor player to major in a “useful” degree like BSCS or BSEE. ( my opinion only and I know of some exceptions) So it would be specifically to defray costs.

    Have you run the numbers? I have a friend who thinks he could have made it in pro tennis except his dad just ran out of money. I am sure it happens to many people and with the increased time to mature and break in I think it will happen to more and more.

    Think about it carefully, there are pros and cons to any approach. If he takes longer to develop than you are planning you could end up in the wrong place.
     
  3. BSPE84

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    Brad old buddy, you did hear of the financial crisis five years ago right? FYI there's really nothing a POTUS can do about oil/gas prices, but let's stay focused on tennis here :).
     
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    Agreed those are the tough questions that need to be asked. Me thinks taking out a $200k loan for a BSCS would pay out faster and be much more lucrative over a lifetime. Of course, that would make him part of the worthless "educated" bunch. Oh the horror! :)
     
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    One of his uncles ? as always "hear-say" someone else's info they pass on to you and you type it as though it is gold !!!
     
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    I know about the crisis but we had and oil spill and this is what dummy proposed and caused !

    Ten oil rigs have left the Gulf of Mexico since the Obama Administration imposed a moratorium on deepwater oil and gas drilling in May 2010, according to documentation obtained from Sen. David Vitter’s (R-La.) office
    Oh wait here it gets better 25 Gulf oil rigs shutting down in deepwater drilling moratorium

    therefore we have gas prices that will stay high and climb and the people suffer ! my point is use common sense is he for the million of poor people who drive cars and need to get to work with these action??

    I am sure you will come up with and "higher educated answer" rather then use common sense and say this guys worst then the last .

    lets stick to tennis, the subject is to simple and will confound many .
     
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    No. Sorry. Not "therefore" we have high gas prices. Oil production has risen each year of the Obama administration. US oil production is at a 15 year high. Nice try.
     
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    http://articles.latimes.com/2012/nov/13/business/la-fi-us-saudi-oil-20121113
     
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    What is so great about depleting own resources and polluting the air? If you want to pollute anyway, it is better to buy from others and deplete them first. Sure it is more expensive, but that is the incentive to go for alternate sources. US has enough shale oil reserves for the next 100 years, while the Middle East is preparing for a post-oil economy. Republicans are just mouthpieces for oil and couldn't care less about clean air or alternative sources or climate change. They are essentially controlled by the Texas powers and their international friends who cannot think beyond waging wars for oil. Any economic "gain" by these stupid actions and "$500 tax refunds" is nullified by large scale manipulation of the financial markets and the cost of war creating one more generation of poorer people.
     
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    I tend to agree and was not arguing for more use of fossil fuels - just simply pointing out that BB's claim of why gas prices are high was just completely wrong.
     
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    What he said ^
     
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    No, I'm still just a semi-pro :cry:
     
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    The topic is how serious we are "USA" when out trainer cor the US Davis cup is providing loads of candy and our players are munching gobs of it during the Davis cup matches and struggle to beat and inferior Brazilian team and all the "higher educated" say the Brazilians were playing high level tennis and the guys with common sense say the American got to get away from this attitude that its a party and get rid of the candy and cake during the matches ! So TCF what is the subject ?
     
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    Hey Brad, forgot to mention you might be seeing some oil rigs from your back yard real soon... careful when you turn on the kitchen faucet :).

    http://www.presstelegram.com/news/ci_20720900/occidental-petroleum-looks-drill-oil-carson
     
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    Despite the efforts of the current administration, not because of it. On private lands, oil production has shot up because higher crude oil prices attracted drilling. On federal lands, where the administration has some influence, drilling has declined. Then the administration tries to take credit for overall production increasing, even though it happened over their dead bodies, so to speak. And it sounds like the deception worked on quite a few people, didn't it?
     
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    I would love to hear your explanation on how water physically becomes flammable from "fracking". With respect to spills, yes accidents happen. But you want to talk deception, perhaps you should look up how many birds get killed from crashing into windows or domestic cats EVERY DAY and compare that to the TOTAL number of birds killed as a result of the Exxon Valdez spill. Or maybe how many gallons of oil naturally seeped out from the seabeds over time versus how much was spilled from the Macondo tragedy.

    Always cracks me up that many of the good folks who have demonized "big oil", through ignorance or otherwise, have no problems getting around in an SUV :).
     
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    Lots of drilling going on, because demand worldwide is high enough to justify it. But not enough drilling to create so much supply that demand is easily satisfied and the prices go down drastically.

    How are prices being manipulated?
     
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    Tennis, y'all -- Tennis.
     
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    Doesn't matter where it's drilled. US oil supply is up and is not a "simple" and sole reason we have high gas prices as BB suggested. That's all I was pointing out.
     
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    Do you think by any chance these guys are hering and seeing what dummy is doing from the White House , so when 25 rigs are being shut down and pipelines are being veto'd then when they are trading on the market they jack us , pretty simple math ,,,,, like trying to outlaw gun the sales spike pretty simple to see who is causing the sale spike unless your willfully blind ?
     
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    Crude oil prices, the stuff GASOLINE comes from and prone to spills, is near historic highs and what Brad and the rest of us were referring to. NATURAL GAS prices, the stuff used to heat homes and the culprit in your clip, is near historic lows. Just make sure you differentiate the two commodities on your youtube searches or discussion of market manipulation.
     
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    Typical ignorant rant to blame the "dummy" at the top having no experience or education on the subject yourself. Sure, that's easy. You could have you own AM radio political show!
     
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    Don't get this thread deleted.

    OK, just to get something related to tennis here, I'll ask TCF a question in relation to his 12 year rule.

    If a player first started playing competitive tennis as the bottom guy on a high school team in his junior year in high school and played in Spring and Summer. Then he started playing year-round for the first time in his life in the Spring of his Senior year and by the Spring of his Freshman year in college (no longer a junior) could beat the lower-ranked guys on top 20 Division 1 college teams and all the top juniors in the state. What would be his potential?
     
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    Back to tennis. Big win for Sock over Roanic. I saw each guy's last match- never would have preidicted a Sock win yesterday. In last match Sock played very poor 2nd set in a straight set loss. Roanic looked like Superman in San Jose final. BTW I just randomly looked up the ITF junior ranking of 3 top 100 pro- Dolgopolov, Granollers, and Phau. Dolgopolov got to an ITF high in juniors in the 20's. Granollers and Phau in the 200-300's. The theory that over 90% top pros were top juniors- not true.
     
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    TCF you been at Rebbeca Marinos web sites ? Looks like your work to me !!!haha
     
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    I would like to know if the 12 year rule is scientific or speculative ?
     
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    But, how can this be? Both natural gas and crude oil are traded as commodities, with futures contracts. Yet, natural gas prices dropped by about 60% in an 18 month period recently. During that period, we heard that "speculators" were responsible for driving up the price of oil. But natural gas has speculators (i.e. commodities traders) just like oil does. Why are the natural gas "speculators" unable to drive up the price of gas like those evil crude oil speculators have done with crude oil prices? Are they just incompetent?

    Of course, the supply of natural gas was shooting up faster than demand during this time, while the supply of oil was having a hard time keeping up with demand. Could it be that the prices are determined by supply and demand, rather than by evil speculators? No, that would be too simple an explanation for TCF et al.
     
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    LMAO.

    Even TCF has to admit that is a good one.
     
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    She quit because she was upset that she would never be better than a Division 2 player.

    (Sorry TCF, don't really mean it, but it was too easy a target to pass up) :)
     
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    You are right.
    Actually, player injured leg and never played that well again. Unpredictable. Just wondering theoretically.

    Just goes to show, It's always something.
     
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    About 'killing' gas prices and 'survival modes'....this Quinzi dude pays for his gas 10$per gallon :)
     
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    TCF: Our job here is not to argue but to help juniors and parents. It's not about the 1 player, it has to apply to all. Look the facts about #1's player: 6'5" w/ athletic build, made quarters of OB at 16, took out #6 player in world, focused driven father and coach, never had professional full time coaching. Most, including me, given the facts would say he has a shot at the ATP top 100. Not a good or likely one. It would be beter if he was ITF top 5. He has 1 year to make a choice- college or pros. Right now he has the 1 signature win. It's not that important that he win tournaments. But he has to back up that big win with 3 or 4 more. If he does not it does not make sense to bypass college.
     
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    Coach what do you think the difference is between our top Nationals vs top ITf's , how hard they hit the ball , how much topspin , how big they serve , quality of forehands and back hands , slices , speed of players ,ect ???

    I purposely didnt mention what I believe the answer is but would love to see what your thought is .
     
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    N#1 coach, commend you for your belief in your player.

    dont bother comparing US top nationals vs top ITF. the comparison is what is my player missing from a champions way of thinking in the court and off the court. John Mac once said in an interview, as soon as he enters the court to play, he feels like he is in a library. before every ball he hits and receives his mind immediately knows which shot to pick from the library of shots he trained all his life. So it is not how good my forehandshot is, how good my top spin is, how good i can move, how good i can serve.. because there are a lot of kids out there who can do all of the above extremely well. but the difference is when to do what. it is a psychological battle. it starts in the mind and ends in the mind.
     
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    You have to remember when questioning him his answer comes from lack of and added info he makes up , such as the player you mentioned has always been involved in other sports yet he claims he is " tennis only" for the last 12 years so any answer he gives comes from what ever he thinks it is.
     

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