How the heck is Roddick only number 8???

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  1. HunterST

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    Roddick has had great results, and a lot of the guys ahead of him in the rankings haven't played nearly as well.

    Del Potro: I don't believe he's played a tournament sense the Australian open. That's not his fault, but how has he not lost any ground in the rankings?

    Davydenko: has Missed quite a few tournaments.

    Soderlng: He didn't do so hot in Wimbledon or the US and got out very early at the Australian. Yes, he made the FO finals, but roddick made the Wimbledon finals. Also, Roddick had a much better year leading up to his final than did Soderling.

    Roddick: made the finals of wimbledon last year, made the finals of IW and won Miami. Why is he still only 8 in the world ?
     
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  2. onyxrose81

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    Err...points from last year haven't fallen off.
     
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  3. HunterST

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    I know but Roddick made a GS final last year! Djokovic didn't make a final and he's been a perennial in the top five.

    Obviously the Australian and other events from last years' points have been replaced by the 2010 results now, but I'd say Andy Roddick had the second best 2009 slam results and he never got up to 5 or so in the world.
     
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  4. Fee

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    The rest of the top players get better results in the Masters and that helps them stay ahead of Andy, especially since he doesn't play Monte Carlo or Rome, and he didn't play the WTF at all last year, but the others did.
     
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  5. Mustard

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    1. Each player has a maximum of 18 tournaments that can count towards their world rankings points, unless they qualify for the YEC, in which case, it's a maximum of 19 tournaments.

    2. The 4 slams and all the masters events except Monte Carlo have to count towards a player's ranking, even if they don't play it. They are the 12 compulsory tournaments.

    3. If a player plays Monte Carlo, then 3 ATP 500 events must count towards their world ranking, with a 0 pointer for each shortage in these tournaments played. If a player doesn't play Monte Carlo, then 4 ATP 500 events must count towards their world ranking, with a 0 pointer for each shortage in these tournaments played. Davis Cup points will be added only if the total is higher than the points from their 3/4 ATP 500 events.

    4. The ATP will allow the points totals from a maximum of 2 ATP 250 events to count towards a player's ranking.

    Novak Djokovic ranking points currently on the computer
    Grand Slams
    2009 French Open: 90 points (Round of 32 Loser)
    2009 Wimbledon: 360 points (Quarter Final Loser)
    2009 US Open: 720 points (Semi Final Loser)
    2010 Australian Open: 360 points (Quarter Final Loser)

    ATP World Tour Finals
    2009 ATP World Tour Finals: 400 points (Round Robin Exit)

    ATP 1,000 Events
    2009 Montreal Masters: 180 points (Quarter Final Loser)
    2009 Cincinnati Masters: 600 points (Runner-up)
    2009 Shanghai Masters: 360 points (Semi Final Loser)
    2009 Paris Masters: 1,000 points (CHAMPION)
    2010 Indian Wells Masters: 90 points (Round of 16 Loser)
    2010 Miami Masters: 10 points (Round of 64 Loser)
    2010 Monte Carlo Masters: 360 points (Semi Final Loser)
    2010 Rome Masters: 180 points (Quarter Final Loser)
    2010 Madrid Masters: 0 points (Did Not Play)

    ATP 500 Events
    2009 Beijing: 500 points (CHAMPION)
    2009 Basel: 500 points (CHAMPION)
    2010 Dubai: 500 points (CHAMPION)

    ATP 250 Events
    2009 Halle: 150 points (Runner-up)
    2010 Belgrade: 45 points (Quarter Final Loser)

    Non-Countable Events and Davis Cup
    2010 Rotterdam: 180 points (Semi Final Loser)
    2010 Davis Cup: 80 points

    Total number of Novak Djokovic ranking points: 6,405


    Andy Roddick ranking points currently on the computer
    Grand Slams
    2009 French Open: 180 points (Round of 16 Loser)
    2009 Wimbledon: 1,200 points (Runner-up)
    2009 US Open: 90 points (Round of 32 Loser)
    2010 Australian Open: 360 points (Quarter Final Loser)

    ATP 1,000 Events
    2009 Montreal Masters: 360 points (Semi Final Loser)
    2009 Cincinnati Masters: 10 points (Round of 32 Loser)
    2009 Shanghai Masters: 10 points (Round of 32 Loser)
    2009 Paris Masters: 0 points (Did Not Play)
    2010 Indian Wells Masters: 600 points (Runner-up)
    2010 Miami Masters: 1,000 points (CHAMPION)
    2010 Rome Masters: 0 points (Did Not Play)
    2010 Madrid Masters: 0 points (Did Not Play)

    ATP 500 Events
    2009 Washington: 300 points (Runner-up)
    2009 Valencia: 0 points (Did Not Play)
    2010 Memphis: 90 points (Quarter Final Loser)
    2010 Dubai: 0 points (Did Not Play)

    ATP 250 Events
    2010 Brisbane: 250 points (CHAMPION)
    2010 San Jose: 150 points (Runner-up)

    Non-Countable Events
    2009 Queen's Club: 90 points (Semi Final Loser)
    2009 Beijing: 0 points (Round of 32 Loser)

    Total number of Andy Roddick ranking points: 4,600
     
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  6. tacou

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    3 masters events and WTF don't count, plus he went out round 2 or 3 in the US Open
     
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  7. decades

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    Roddick is now officially focused on slams...problem is if he drops out of top 8 and the rest of the field above him is entered, he could meet nadal or fed in the 16s. not exactly where he wants to be.
     
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    Because they actually.... played
     
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    Umm did you not notice the ZERO points for 3 masters clay events???????

    That tends to make a difference.
     
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  10. Mustard

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    Monte Carlo isn't compulsory. Roddick has 0 pointers for Paris, Rome and Madrid, and only 10 points for Montreal and Cincinnati.
     
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    Shows you what a difference the smaller tournaments can make.

    Total for Roddick for 12 compulsory tournaments (GS + Masters excluding Monte Carlo) = 3810

    Total for Djoko for same = 3950.

    So not a big gap at all.

    But, then Djoko did much better at the 'smaller' tournaments (500s mainly) and also has points from the tour finals.
     
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