How to create a custom paintjob (very detailed)

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  1. Loco4Tennis

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    here are some strung up picture, came out pretty good i think, looks good too IMO, not bad for a home job :)
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  2. Loco4Tennis

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    these pictures are some issues ive run into, either because of the stringing mahcine touching the frame, the paint i choose mosttly i think, and or the lettering issue i mentioned above
    while these look ugly at close, at arms lenght their almost not notisable,
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  3. Loco4Tennis

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    for the minor scratshes, i ended up using a black sharpie, which was surprisingly easy, quick touch up for the blue i was using
    the red arrows on the above picture is showing the touch ups i did to the letters after the paint bleed happened when i removed the letter stencil stickers, i mentioned on my previous post how i would change that next time i do it again to prevent this
     
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    i'll say one more thing
    while the racquet played as cheap as it did the day i bought it, and it has the monalisa issue (great from far away, but close up is a big ol mess) going on from all the scratsches ive shown,
    it really looks awsome in the sunlight and while hitting and ofcourse you get the added feeling of having painted a one of a kind racquet :)
     
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  5. Loco4Tennis

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    now that i think about the issue i ran into, i think i should have waited like you to let the paint dry completely
    the first racquet i painted months ago, i had to recenttly restring, and the paint did not get messedup like the lattest one i did, i'll have to keep that in mind next time i do this
     
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    Newbie on Racquet Question: Pro's and their PJ's

    I don't think I've ever posted in this section, mainly because I have a racquet, and feel no need to adjust it (looking forward to changing it in the summer; might be here soon lol).

    Anyways, I don't know where to post so here goes;

    Isn't it illegal? It's false advertising if you say for example Federer is using his old racquet (nCode, was it?), with a PJ to make it look like his K(Six-One Tour)90

    The company could ultimately get sued, couldn't they?

    Sorry if it's been discussed before, just wondering.
     
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    Any pics of PJ's u guys have done?
     
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    BTW, my question was about pro's, so please don't confused.
     
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  9. User Name

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    nice paintjob loco also, i would think that that would be a hard racquet to paint since it has a sort of drop in where the strings go

    mansewerz if you seach TT collection should find you the paintjobs that tennis talkers have done
     
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    For those of you who pj a frame and the paint came off when you placed it in a stringer or whatever, did you put a sealent layer or something to that effect to finish the pj, or did you just let the paint dry?
     
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    Hey, I got a question about the preperation phase mentioned in the OP. What's the purpose of this step? Is it really necessary to sand down the old pj? What will happen if I don't? I only ask b/c a friend decided to spray paint his frame, and pretty much just sprayed it...

    What will happen if I put the primer directly over the original pj, and continue the process from that stage? (assume I plan to only use a black and white color scheme)
     
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    It might not be as smooth and you may notice a bit of a difference in the weigh, its not very noticeable though. When you do paint the racquet, any blemishes in the original surface, will be seen in the last coat. Its just a matter of how meticulous you want to be.
     
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  13. Loco4Tennis

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    i used 2 coats of clear paint to seal it, but it still was soft even after a couple days of drying, i usued regular spray paint found at homedepot, not sure if its whats best for this project
    someothers have suggested some different paints up above

    as for the this question, i have done a racquet like this, and did not sand, it added enough weight to be able to notise it, it was my first paint job so i layered 7 times, 4 color and 3 clear coats, perhaps a little too much, but it did add weight
    sanding the old paint is best, and the worst part of the paint job IMO
     
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    How bad are the blemishes? Extremely noticeable, or just visible to someone looking up close? Sorry for the overly detailed question, but I'm trying to do as little work as possible :)
     
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    its not that bad, even on the picture above, where you can see my hand on it, you don't see them clearly, so if you'r not looking for them, your not gonna see it at all, it does look ugly up close though, but they are minor scratches that do not affect the look on the court
     
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    be careful some paints can damage equipment and stickers too
     
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  17. User Name

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    i wanted my frame to look flawless, which is why i went through all the extra steps... its completely up to the person, if you are looking to do a paintjob and you dont care to much about tiny blemishes, then its no big deal. I was doing it on a prince o3 white, so i wanted it to be flawless (which is impossible) and i didn't care so much about the time or effort needed.
     
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    I have a couple of paint/technique oriented questions and a few misc. questions...

    How does one create a hard, scratch resistant finish that won't be marred by the stringing machine? What type of paint and method of application should be used (ie number of coats, drying/curing time, use of a clear coat, etc...)? Is this finish possible with "regular" spraypaint (Krylon)?

    Can you use the same kind of primer regardless of paint type?

    How do you dry the frame once painted without it touching anything?

    Thank you, and User Name, your paint job looks amazing.
     
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  19. boyettrysis

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    i dont want to give my racket a paint job. i want to paint my racket exactly how it looked when it was knew. how would i do it? i have a head radical trysis 260.
     
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    que bostero sos! increible, yo soy de Boca pero no asi de fanatico :confused:
     
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  21. Loco4Tennis

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    ^^ gracias, viva BOCA :)
     
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  22. Nitro

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    Loco, any thoughts?
     
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  23. Loco4Tennis

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    ive been thinking of this recenttly
    i let one of my friends borrow the racquet above, he went for a low ball and he scrapped the paint, right after i took it away from him, i saw the damage and tought, the spray can stuff from homedepot is not the right stuff for the racquet
    "User Name" mentioned some other paints that would dry hard above, i would look into that, also i would go to the automotive shops and see what kind of paint they have, that stuff dries hard, and maybe with a soft clear cote ontop it will work
    i dont have any paointing project on the near future, but when i do start one again, i would look into harder paints, one other example of why the home furninture spray stuff is not good, is that on my first paint job which i did about 8 months ago now, i pressed my fingernail into the side to check to see it if ever dries solid, nope, 8 months latter and its still soft
    but then as i write this, i think that maybe we just dont have the stuff to make it solid, afterall, manufacturers use ovens to dry their paintjobs, so high heat is needed to achieve what we can't at home, maybe they also use the stuff we buy and then add heat, that would keep the center soft and flexible and the outside hard and crispy and shiny:)
     
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  24. Nitro

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    I was planning on doing a long, warm, dry cure in between colors which should go a long way to helping the paint set and harden.
     
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  25. Loco4Tennis

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    when i was doing mine, the paint said it would dry fast in 30 minutes, i applyaed 7 coats in all, and all of them were left for hours and even a full day to dry, but it still came out soft

    can you descrive what you had in mind for yours, are you using special oven or something?
     
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  26. Nitro

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    No special ovens here. I was going to suspend the racquet outside but out of direct sunlight so that it would not get too hot and wouldn't be touching anything. I plan on using lacquer which should dry nice and hard.
     
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  27. Loco4Tennis

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    let us know how it turns out, lacquer was one of the ones i would try next also
    one other thing about painting that no one covered here, you cannot have enough pictures to show your favorite tennis-forum afterwards :)
    i got lazy and did not take a bunch of pictures on my last paint job, i'll try to get more pictures next time :)
     
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  28. Nitro

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    I will definitely take pics :)
     
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  29. spectraflamed

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    I painted cars for a long time. Good tips in this thread. An airbrush is really helpful and if you have one you can use a 2 or 3 part clear poly and the racquet will be darn near unchippable (is that a word? lol) Also a cool place to find good quality paints in a zillion colors for cheap is the nail polish section of a store like target. I use clear nail polish over chips on my frames to keep them from getting worse.
     
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  30. Nitro

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    Will the clear poly craze lacquer? The nail polish tip is an interesting one. Thanks.
     
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  31. Loco4Tennis

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    yeah, never tought about nail polish for the touchup, i'll try it soon and post pictures of the repair of the racquet above
     
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    Stage one: stripping is complete. You weren't kidding when you said its the hardest part. I have pictures and observations to add to step-by-step guide, but I'll do that at the end.
     
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    Yeah i used a ceramic heater in the room with the racquet after sparying the lacquer... it made it soft so dont touch it or you will get fingerprints, but when it cooled it was harder wait a long time though and at least a day between coats. your working hard so be patient
     
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    nice
    i wanna paint my racket some day
     
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    And you do that directly after your last coat or between coats or after letting it dry for a little bit? Sounds like a good idea. I have all of my prep done so I may still try that.
     
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  36. muko

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    hi all...

    i just joined here...
    but actually been reading the forum for quite a vey long time...

    i am doing PJ now... still in process..
    2times failure already.. sigghhh...
    i'll post pictures soon once i found a good place to put them.

    Question to PJ experts:
    What is actually the purpose of sanding between coats of paint?

    sorry very awkward.. it's just that when my racket is being masked.. it is not so conveneint to sand... can destroy the masking tape...

    many thanks
     
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  37. [K]Topspin

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    Very nice. Thanks so much.
     
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  38. Be Cool

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    Muko,

    You usually have to polish in between layers because it's likely that you will have
    areas where you have overspray. You want an even layer everytime, it's difficult but possible with practice.
     
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  39. muko

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    Sorry i want to test upload pics...
    this is the first trial PJ no sanding on this.

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/7411101@N03/2484378707/" title="080426AllBlack by Mukyo, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2415/2484378707_328777dfd8.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="080426AllBlack" /></a>
     
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    :oops:eee.... cannot use flickr...
    cannot edit also.... sorry :oops:

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    the black one went into catastrophee after i spray the fluorescence yellow...
    i didn't take pics it is too sad to do that...

    anyway after they dried i sanded down everything with broken heart...
    very very exhausting process...
    this is the pic after finish...
    i wanted to take pics for every step of the PJ process but forgot the white and yellow stage... to busy doing masking... :cry: :cry:

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  42. muko

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    this is white + yellow then masked before started black.
    i use black tape (usually used for covering your camera or tripods) and normal paper masking tape (white/cream colored).

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  43. Loco4Tennis

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    kuttos to you on the sanding, you got all of it out, i got too tierd on mine and missed a couple of spots, i could have done a better job at removing it, but it took too long with the sand paper i used, how did you take your paint off on yours, sand paper or chemicals??
    ps. you provably know this already, but tought i mention it anyway, be very careful when removing the tape, it can sometimes stick to the bottom paint and piel it off
     
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  44. Loco4Tennis

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    by the way, the second picture looks good, can't wait to see it complete
    as for not taking enough pictures, i completely understand, i almost had to force myself to take the few i got, too busy thinking about the end, i was.
     
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  45. muko

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    no no no... i am a pure newbies in doing painting...
    i got all the problems in the world in the PJ...
    i am just being very persistent and stubborn when sanding...
    i sand from morning until late afternoon... of course with resting...
    i just use sand papers and thinners... i notice they are easily scrapped and softer if i wet them wit thinner before sanding...
    should have got those paint scrappers solution... i heard it is better...
    maybe next time...
     
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    the white paint job looks sick!!! nicely done!
     
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  48. vincent_tennis

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    what about using:
    - Spray paint
    - Gloss for the finish ie. the ones u can get from those model car shops.
    - painting on the primer instead of spraying it on?

    thanks
    Vince

    edit* ignore this post didnt read the stuff said b4 :p
     
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  49. Loco4Tennis

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    you thinking about repainting a racquet??
     
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    u can make some money costom painting racquets
     

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