How to deal with slice?

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  1. pmerk34

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    Just do what Nadal does and what Agassi did to slice: punish it for a winner every time. You can't lose that way
     
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  2. floridatennisdude

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    This is actually the most perfect way of dealing with junk I have ever seen. Youzny was obviously trying to get into Rogers head by playing slice. Roger matched it until given an opening and used counter spin perfectly until the error was forced.

    So, ultimately, all we need to do is play like Federer and we are all set. Piece of cake.
     
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  3. blip

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    I did the same tonight. Unfortunately, I wasn't up to par. Same player, great serves with volley. He easily held because of a great 1st and 2nd serves. I then had to hold to keep pace. Once I stopped playing my game on serve, he immediately took advantage and chipped and charged. I couldn't reply because of the low sitters and he pounced on every weak return.

    Next time I will try to get more on the offensive and go after his serves. I did notice he had a weaker forehand but I didn't capitalize and change my game to win. Shame on me. His game really got me out of my comfort zone and out of sync.

    Lesson learned. I need to play my game instead of trying to win playing his.
     
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  4. usta2050

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    When serving - try to do body serves. Make him pop those slices up and finish them off.

    When return - try to make him run from the first hit and pop one up again.

    If you try to out rally him, you need to win on consistency and fitness.

    Going to the net works if you know how to volley heavy under spin balls.

    If you are having problems hitting slices back from the baseline, it means you need to take smaller foot steps to adjust your position right before you contact the ball.
     
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  5. Rjtennis

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    Your in the minority...that the least favorite shot for 99% of people playing a 1bh.
     
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  6. phnx90

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    Could try hitting a deep, heavy topspin cross court shot into the forehand side, if he hits nothing but slices on both wings. That side tends to be more error prone and slicing a high, spinny ball tends to go long.

    My favourite shot is the inside out FH from just about anywhere on the court though, and that seems to work for me. Usually draws a sliced lob which I can put away with an overhead. Could try either or both, see what happens.
     
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  7. corbind

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    I have a pretty decent 1HBH slice so I've seen what can happen to it when it comes back. Opponents with big, loopy, poly topspins can take one of my super-spinny backhands and use my spin against me. Their forehand will loop and add my backspin to their RPM's which makes is come back to me with even more of their topspin. It does not take too long for anyone to dial in how to use the backspin against someone - even if you backspin low and hard.
     
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  8. lim

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    What about the rare junkball version of servers? I played against a guy who exclusively used a slice serve. I remember it had some pace and an overwhelming amount of slice, but had almost no depth landing well inside the service box before bouncing off in the completely opposite direction.

    He did a fair job mixing it up going wide and down the tee. It forced me to step inside the baseline and try to chip it back since it was landing so shallow in the service box, but the sharp angles managed to get me off balance a number of times on return either leaving me stranded in the forecourt or giving him a short ball to crush.
     
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  9. OrangePower

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    Take it early. Stand halfway between the baseline and the service line. You might get beaten a few times by wide serves, but all in all you will be robbing him of time if you try hit the return aggressively on the rise.
     
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  10. Govnor

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    I've only come up against this one time, and it wasn't quite as extreme as every single shot. But I won the match easily by simply moving the guy from side to side with big loopy top spin shots to the back corners. He simply couldn't keep going without giving me easy put aways. Also mixed in a few drop shots to get him sprinting every now and then. He probably ran about 4 x the distance I did, he was exhausted. He didn't want to play me again after that.
     
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  11. sandiegoman

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    Why do you slice all the time? It's really cheap way to win...
     
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  12. Baxter

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    Could he spell?
     
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  13. sundaypunch

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    Well, maybe he slices because he hits it more reliably than a topspin BH. Or maybe he wants to keep the ball low. Or maybe he doesn't want to give the other person pace. I don't see anything cheap about hitting a slice. I do not put it in the same category as continual moon balling, dinking, etc.
     
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  14. Avles

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    Such a weird idea to me...

    Why exactly is slicing cheaper than hitting wtih topspin? They're just two different ways to control the ball. But I bet you wouldn't say that hitting topspin all the time is cheap.

    Don't be a spinist!
     
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  15. olliess

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    There's an obvious reason why he might say something like that... :)
     
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  16. jmverdugo

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    there are slices and there are slices, if it is the floating type of slice the after bounce just stay there let it bounce and then adjust your steps, you will have time. If it is the mean sliding type of slice then let it bounce and wait for it, give yourself room, timing is everything and try to make good contact, do not over spin it.
     
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  17. sundaypunch

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    He's a teenager?
     
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  18. SoBad

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    Slice ball stays low and/or spinny at times - were you bending your knees and taking the racquet back early while moving your feet to be in the perfect position to hit the ball?
     
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  19. Tammo

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    I play my brother every week, and he slices every BH. Since my BH is my strong shot, I don't get into BH CC slice wars. I have very good net skills so my stragety is hit a hard BH CC on a short ball and just smother the net.

    IMO just don't let yourself play slices back and forth.
     
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  20. D-money

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    I think this guy has addressed the more important issues. Should people who hit slice on both sides be able to walk amongst us in society? My vote is no. I would hate to think that someone I know, or worse yet my neighbor could be a slicer. There should be a separate league for "old man hack" style tennis. Yes no forehand or backhand are accurate appraisals of of someone who slices on both sides, but I believe there is a deeper problem. What we as tennis players should be asking is what kind of society raised these slicers and what kind of man would choose to hit the ball that way having seen it hit properly literally thausands of times? The answers are out there I'm sure but we're not asking the right questions. The question is how do we eliminate this virus from the tennis gene pool?
     
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  21. D-money

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    And yes I was recently just beaten by some hack who played slice exclusively. I took the first set and retired out of frustration rather than smash another innocent racket.
     
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  22. D-money

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    I'm wondering if anybody has any updated advice on how to punish these slicing hacks?
     
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  23. tennisbuck

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    So if the guy literally has no topspin shots, he 95 percent sure can't short hop anything. If you are confident with your volleys just throw up a moon ball on the second or third shot. He will have no choice but to run back ( since it is very difficult to short hop a slice). once he is back way behind the baseline, he won't have much to do if the ball is over his shoulder. Start running to the net, but watch for the lob. A reletively easy volley will follow
     
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  24. corbind

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    What does "short hop" mean?
     
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    Take right as its coming off the court
     
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  26. spaceman_spiff

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    I still stick to my original reply. Slice your way to the net and force the guy to hit a passing shot. It's pretty tough to pass a guy with slice if he's pushed you back deep and has rushed the net.
     
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    I used to only hit slice with my backhand. I am really good with it now because of that. I can drop it into the corner of the service boxes and let it spin either into you or into the doubles area.

    However, after being beat by people who rush the net on me, it was much harder to hit passing shots with a slice (since it doesn't have as much pace). If my backhand is all slice, then as soon as they hit it there it's their plan and not mine. They hit it to my BH intentionally and rush the net to slam or get a good angle on the spin before it bounces.

    Needless to say, I have begun learning BH top spin to incorporate. The people I play with are now a bi tmore cautious coming to the net when I drop a nice BH into their feet.
     
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  28. Govnor

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    Agree with this. If you are able to dictate and the slice is all they have, you will get easy put away's because if they are reaching for a ball, it's going to float, no way around it really (for them).
     
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  29. mikeler

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    Heavy topspin shots that land at or near the service line. Make the slicer hit balls at shoulder height or higher.
     
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    Played a guy who used a sliced backhand which did not give me much trouble.

    But he used a sliced forehand from the baseline which curved out wide and I couldn't even get a racket on it. Tremendous SIDESPIN as opposed to the backhand underspin.

    He didn't get the forehand slice in that many times, but when he did, it was practically unreturnable.

    How to deal with that? I have above average running speed but still couldn't chase down the forehand slice curving out wide.
     
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  32. Relinquis

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    drop shot his slice, then move inside the service line for an easy put-away volley into the open court... assuming he get's to the drop shot.
     
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  33. dcdoorknob

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    Well the easy answer is, if he's not getting it in very often, then just let him keep hitting it and tell him what a great shot it is the few times it goes in. :D
     
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  34. polytheist

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    He can only hit this shot when you hit a weak or short ball. Keep it deep and you won't see this shot anymore.
     
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