How to defeat lob queens/Kings

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  1. GuyClinch

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    Was watching my teammates tonight and our top team was having a lot of trouble against some lobbers. My teammates just played back and tried to hit groundstrokes. They have good groundstrokes and so they won. But they lost a set and won the final set 7-5.

    But is this not a bad tactic in general? I think they should have hung around at the service line and tried to hit angled sliced overheads..this would bring in the lobbers and take them out of their comfort zone..
     
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  2. treblings

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    you are talking about doubles, right?
     
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  3. GuyClinch

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    Yeah doubles..

    These guys BOTH played back to deal with two lobbers. I think that was a weird strategy..
     
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  4. MethodTennis

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    If you think they're going to miss before you do then why not? There are lots of solutions to the same problem and obviously there's was a winning solution. Maybe you're would have been a losing one maybe it would have won them it in straights. But yes you suggest a valid strategy that could have worked. Why not ask why they did it like they did?
     
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  5. onehandbh

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    Another solution is to hit solid overheads until you get a shorter lob and then go for a little more angle or hit it harder and shorter so that it bounces over their head and over the fence.

    On short lobs, bouncing your overheads over your opponents is a good strategy b/c you don't have to go for an angle and take the chance of missing wide.
     
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  6. treblings

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    your mates chose a winning tactic:)
    there are too many things we donĀ“t know about to talk about that specific match intelligently
    for example, have they met their opponents before, or where they surprised by the constant lobbing?
    one thing that i believe pays off is, try to figure out in which situations your opponents will use the lob. and can use it successfully.
    can you beat them with pace? or a deep slice maybe? or by moving them around forward and back?
    choose the moment well, when to come in. and also choose well, after which kind of shot to come to the net
     
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  7. MethodTennis

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    Another solution is to hit inside out backhand winners short to there forehand...

    That's the problem with this forum. Everyone wants a one size fits all solution. So many variables when you can't watch them play you don't know where the strengths and weaknesses are.

    People always seem to ask for generic technical advice with a description of there problem or a short video of the problemtheyvthink they're experiencing against a hitting wall etc.

    We can't really put things in the context of the situation.
     
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  8. GuyClinch

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    I did talk to them about why they both played back - its because they were getting lobbed.

    .. Yeah its a winning strategy for them - but anyone watching them warm up would be shocked the score was so close..

    It's classic ugly tennis giving guys with better strokes alot of problems. I was wondering what the 'textbook' solution to this problem is..

    After looking around a bit and listening to answers I think it is indeed to stand right around service line and hit safe overheads - until you get an easy one and try to finish the point..
     
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  9. LeeD

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    There is no ONE answer.
    Also, each of the team plays different. While one may lob consistent, the other might tend to leave one short. While one my overhead solid with direction, the other might need to play safe slice overheads instead of flat powerful overheads.
    It's usually sound to stay just deep of service line inviting a passing shot, to break the monotony.
    It's usually sound to overhead up the middle, to force the two lobbers closer together, to open angles.
    It's usually sound to overhead to the less consistent lobber, taking the other one out of play.
    And if any of you have an overhead drop shot, I've seen this hit consistently short of the service line from well behind the baseline, with a soft swing and lots of slice.
     
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  10. TennisCJC

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    For lobbers, try these:

    1. lobbers like you to hit the ball deep to them. Try low, wide slice returns and follow them in. If you can take it high and hit it low and wide with a little bite, it makes if very difficult for them to lob or pass. Obviously works best when returning 2nd serves.
    2. related to number 1, if you can hit a CC drop shot return, it also takes the lobber out of their beloved baseline position.
    3. Also, lobbers are usually good up to a threshold of pace and depth. If you hit a deep shot, if you can beef it up with a little extra pace and/or get it to land within 6' of the baseline, it makes it more difficult for the lobber.
    4. I like your idea about not crowding the net and I suggest playing about 3' to 4' inside the service line so you can get back for lobs. Another option but more complicated, is to have the player on your team that is in front of ball, go to normal volley alley about 1/2 way between service line and net, and the off player on your side stays about 3' inside service line. Example: if you are playing ad side and hit CC return deep, then your partner has the ball in front of him and should go to the volley alley (1/2 way net/service line) while you are in the off position and should come in to 3' inside service line. Your partner can cut a lot of angles from there as he is close to net and can move forward diagonally to volley. You can still cover the CC reply unless they hit a screamer and you can cover any lobs over your partners head. Of course, your partner should take overhead if he can. This requires communication on overheads in that your partner needs to say "mine" or "yours" quickly on all overheads.
     
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  11. Beartennis88

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    Not just one answer but usually my partner an me will play one up one back or a little deeper into the court take the ball in the air now if these lobs are hitting the baseline then yea we play one up in back net player waits for a short lob while one of us works ground strokes from the baseline however
    My partner and I hit with a lot of top so our ball bounces high over the shoulders of our opponents if were getting lobbed typically whoever is at the baseline goes for a winner off their lob with an angle or trying to pass the net player
     
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  12. user92626

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    Try lobbing back. The one with a bad neck will eventually lose due to constantly having to use it to look up. Tennis is a dangerous sport.
     
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  13. v-verb

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    I take it out of the air and slam or overhead slice it back. If I let it bounce sometimes it can bounce way high and hot the back fence.
     
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