How to handle a high Bounce for 1hbh

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  1. theprophe

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    I almost always play hardcourts and this time i played on clay with a real claycourt type player (big topspiner) and i was having trouble with the constant high bounce to my 1 handed backhand. What would be the more correct way to approach it, to move back and take it way behind the baseline or take it on the rise which is alot more difficult, thanks
     
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  2. Hmmm, I've never played on clay, but I've gotten my share of high backhands. I use a two handed backhand, but when I'm pushed with a high backhand I have to scramble for, I always hit it one handed. All I can say is get your timing down and have your balance when you start your swing. Usually I go after the ball perpendicular to it's path, sometimes I have to catch up a little. Just try to get in front of it and send it back. You can try to lob it back or just try to drive it. It's a 100% improvised shot, there's no 'right' way to do it. Maybe you can hit a backhand overhead, or are you too far from the net? I just get the ball back in play and recover for the next shot.
    Here's what you should do: End the point before they can hit you with this situation. :wink:
     
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  3. fantom

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    I have a 2HBH, and I can hit the ball well over my head w/ consistency. To hit it well, I have to make sure I make contact out in front of my body. If I let it get behind my strike zone the least bit, I have trouble keeping the ball in the court. Another thing that works for me on those high backhands is hitting across the ball rather than straight over it. This imparts side spin and top spin rather than purely topspin. It allows me to take a more normal stroke. Hope this helps.
     
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  4. @wright

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    It's a better idea to take it early, so your opponent will have less time to react. This also allows you to take the ball at the height of your choosing. It is uncomfortable at first, but next time you rally with someone, nail your butt to the baseline, and don't let yourself get pushed back. Pretty soon, hitting on the rise will feel natural and you'll be hitting backhand half volleys all day long.
     
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  5. theprophe

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    thanks for the tips, your right hitting on the rise is tough, especially since their is so much topspin on the ball, you guys with the 2 hander can handle it hitting high, since your left arm is supporting the racquet, maybe that's why all the top claycourters use 2 hands, maybe i should watch how Guga handles it,thanks
     
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  6. Bungalo Bill

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    Usiing their normal swing sometimes good onehanders will time a jump with the ball right when it bounces (or slightly after) and swing out to make contact. The key to this is they are already prepared to go forward (most club players are still bringing their racquet back).

    In essence, they are bringing a high ball back into their strike zone. This is an advanced move and takes practice.

    Tim Henman, James Blake, etc. all do this as they do not use extreme grips.
     
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  7. theprophe

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    thanks was trying a little upward and forward momentum , works like a charm, but very difficult to be consistant, one of the problems is im hitting with such pace with all my bodyweight going into the shot, i will have to learn to take some pace of to be more consistant
     
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  8. Bungalo Bill

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    Be careful that your wrist position and contact point is hit with a slightly open racquet face.
     
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  9. Agent Smith

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    I use a 2 hander and sometimes it helps to tilt my body to the right a little bit (im a righty) for high balls. You can see those on TV too..
     
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  10. dozu

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    This is what I do... I have 1hbh and mostly slice during rallies. on high bouncing topspin ball to the back hand, I just slice it down.

    Now the trick is, I need to get close enough to the ball, so the racket can still hit the ball with my elbow tucked close to my body, which is the key to the stability of the shot.

    Imagine the elbow being the center of the clock and the forearm and racket being an arm on the clock. When the incoming ball is waist high, I am slicing it at 9'oclock. when the ball comes in high, I need to slice it down from 11 o'clock. Therefore horizontally, I am closer to the ball.

    This is almost a mirror image of how I sometimes dink back a high topspin ball on the forehand side. with a semi-western grip I chop down on the ball at 1 o'clock, again with elbow being the center. This is a lazy man's easy shot, not much offence in it, but quite steady and effective.
     
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    I want to add, someone may think this kind of slick/dink is vulnerable to an opp who like to sneak into the net. My experience is that it's not. I have very good technique on the slice and can vary between the deep floater and the short/low skidder. If I sense he is coming in, I can keep the ball low, especially with a high-to-low trajectory, it wouldn't be an easy volley for him. Worst case it's 50/50 coin flip, so no worries.
     
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  12. @wright

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    Dozu mentions another tactic I use when dealing with a high ball. If I'm not feelin confident enough to rip it on the rise, I slice it on the rise and it usually has nice bite due to the speed the ball had when I sliced it. It just takes timing, but if you can keep it low, no one will sneak up and volley it away.
     
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  13. Aoya

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    Catching it on the rise decreases your margin for error, and you'd better get it dead right the first time.

    What I do is catch it on the fall and drive it deep as I can. If you do it wrong, you'll catch it too low and drive it into the net though.
     
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  14. Chanchai

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    I guess someone can tell me if any of my alternatives are really bad... but I do any of the following against high balls (however, I usually go for a half-volley if I know the ball will bounce high). I can't say I do any of the following exclusively, it's all about mood and the opponent's court positioning.

    -Hit with a fully closed stance. Generally, I don't open my body at all when I hit my normal backhand, and I'm usually in either a semi-open or neutral stance. Basically, my backhand is the whippy sort of backhand that follows through, but I don't often open up my body at all--my shoulders are almost always perpindular to the net for instance. HOWEVER, in this case.. against a high ball, if it's one I have to reach for, I've found I can generally do the same backhand but raise the contact zone by completely closing off my stance, in this way, it's something like my shoulders being parallel to the net as my back is facing the net, my eyes are still on the ball though and it's only for a brief moment that my back is actually turned. I have no problem recovering. Anyways, so this is one way I've been able to actually hit a backhand that is almost identical to my normal backhand, but it'll usually be something between a looper and a drive. Sometimes a pure looper.

    -Slice. Yeah, no surprises here. And I find it easy to do a nice driving slice against a high ball.

    -Semi-western backhand grip (or so I would imagine it would be called, it's the same grip as the semi-western forehand too so to speak). Not good for insanely high balls, but I generally use this grip when the ball is either very high at the baseline or very low near the net and I want to spin a sharp angled backhand. With the high backhand variant, I also drive, but use my normal technique more or less. However, this will almost always be a looper anyways.

    -Reposition to hit a comfortable ball in my strike zone. Yeah, you can't always do this.

    And as I mentioned in the above... in most cases that I expect this to happen, I actually attack the ball off the bounce--I really love hitting backhands this way in general to be honest. But it depends on what type of ball I'm receiving and my confidence in my backhand for the day. I sometimes do switch to a two-handed backhand as well.

    -Chanchai
     
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  15. JohnThomas1

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    Your backhand must be one helluva shot :)
     
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