How to handle the stress of being filmed?

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  1. sureshs

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    Say you are going to be filmed and the video posted on the Internet and viewable for generations to come.

    And you are not a pro player.

    How much will the filming affect you? Should you be conscious of it? If you are too conscious, you will play worse than normal. But you do know you are being filmed, so you cannot get the thought out of your mind.

    What are some tips to handle the situation?
     
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  2. Mick3391

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    We have just started filming, doesn't affect me a bit, don't really care what others think. I do like to watch good shots and cringe at bad:)

    Great tool like that one guy said for teaching a child.
     
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  3. Govnor

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    I've only done it once. I kinda forgot it was there to be honest. If you're focused on playing, I don't think it should affect you.
     
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  4. sureshs

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    How about starting out with getting your opponent on video and slowly getting used to the idea of a camera on court, while yourself not being recorded?

    Then ease your way into it?
     
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    I think you will play better
     
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  6. BevelDevil

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    sounds like good practice for dealing with (live) spectator anxiety.

    I guess you can deal with it by telling yourself you won't upload it if you play terrible.
     
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  7. sureshs

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    Ah, suppose it is not in my hands?

    I don't worry about spectator anxiety because the only spectators I have had are old farts.

    But suddenly the spectator will expands to the whole Internet. No one has prepared me for that.
     
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    well if you can't find something to distract you into playing YOUR game naturally...you can always edit! Or is this a one shot movie :oops:
     
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  9. sureshs

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    ^^^ Not sure how it will turn out
     
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    I would pay to see sureshs hit. Tell john yandel.
     
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  11. ATP100

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    Start "filming" today, and do it every time you play/practice.
    It will get boring, and not a big deal quickly.
     
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    Maybe I will film suresh the next time we hit
     
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    OK time for me to confess. I am getting ready for next Sunday when cheetah will arrive with new camera setups. It is about filming him, but in the future it may extend to me.
     
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    I suggest wearing a Mexican luchador mask-- it will provide anonymity and possibly also an infusion of fighting spirit.
     
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    Don't worry about it, yea there are some idiots on this board who will criticize anything, just ignore them.

    You may play bad, good, just keep sending videos, no one is 100% all the time. Also no one will think less of you if you look bad.

    I'm putting up some videos and heh, I have a torn ligament so I don't move, and my son sometimes plays good, sometimes not, who cares?
     
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    Here's the answer. I'm so used to it now, I feel bad when I don't bring the camera along. I feel I've missed an opportunity to improve.

    Anyway, good luck with the filming, you will learn a lot from it. If you use YouTube, you can always upload it as an unlisted video, which is what I do.
     
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    Will the camera add 10 pounds like they say? Now if the camera can make my shots "heavier" too, I'd be willing to film myself...
     
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  18. Mick3391

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    Just do what I do, speed up the frame, makes it look like a 125 mph return and 150 serve!
     
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  19. TomT

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    Just do it. :) You'll adjust, and hopefully eventually play even better in front of an audience. I video lots of my tennis stuff. I don't think it's a factor at all. That is, I'm certain it's not on my mind when I'm actually playing.
     
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  20. TomT

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    I don't think the camera adds any weight or girth to objects, including people playing tennis.
     
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    Yea, it doesn't bother Tom and he sucks big time! We all talk secretly about him behind his back:)
     
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  22. TomT

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    Hmmm. I have this curious buzzing in my ear.

    I think sureshs is worried about actually looking good on camera ... which can be a problem (ie., an actual consideration) for some.
     
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  23. Mick3391

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    Come on I was trying to make a joke, of course I don't believe that, thought this forum could use some laughs instead of some of the non-sense that goes on.

    We can give advice, talk, say this and that, then worry that we won't appear as we imply we play, that is his fear. My point is that he shouldn't worry, I'm about to post a video of myself where I look like Frankenstein. I know what I can do, put in a good shot once in awhile for good measure.

    What is scary is not filming yourself, but your son and have some of these *********** criticize him, that's not cool.
     
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  24. TomT

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    Ok, lighten up Mick. If I have to explain all of my humorously intended replies that I don't put smilies on to you, then it's gonna take the edge off, a bit. :)

    But seriously ...

    To sureshs: just put the frickin' camera up and get some videos already! :)
     
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  25. Mick3391

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    Cool, I just never want to insult you, my personality is very strong and sometime unintentionally imply the wrong thing.

    Yea, I agree, Suresh can play like Fed and still be criticized on this forum!
     
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  26. TomT

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    Not to worry Mick, I'm fairly thick-skinned. Notice that I don't post anonymously? It's all out there for whoever's interested. The good, the bad, and, yes, even the ugly. :shock:

    Regarding not insulting me, hello!? You can start by assuming that I'm probably capable of noticing when you're being (or attempting to be) funny. :)

    Carry on then.
     
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  27. Mick3391

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    Wait until you see the absolute worst circumstances, Mick and I out, (Mick is my friend), playing in the rain on a pond and I have him, uh, I mean asked him to play a wood 75 inch racquet. I think it's like oh 9 more hours of loading, but heh IT WILL COME.
     
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  28. cork_screw

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    lol. what is this live television? if you shoot and you're not happy with it, erase it and start again.
     
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  29. TomT

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    Can't wait edit videos to see that one. edit videos Does the Mick&Mick thing ever get confusing? edit videos

    Which wood racquets were 75 sq. in.? edit videos I thought they were 65 sq. in.
    edit videos
     
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  30. TomT

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    That would work if it's not a match, or if there was no arrow of time and the evolution of the universe was nondeterministic but we could nevertheless control and alter local rerunnings of it.

    It would also work for practice stuff. :)
     
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    Mr. Screw, I'm always happy how I play!
     
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  32. TomT

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    Perhaps, but what about the rest of us? :)

    EDIT: I see that the clock is striking midnight, so I bid you goodnight Mick, sureshs, Mr. Screw (may I call you Cork?) et al.
     
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  33. Mick3391

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    Not going to do it, yea I'm guessing, heard it's 75 inches, point is I'm aware of what I can do and my friend as well, so I'm just doing what I want, if anyone wants to challenge they know where to find me.

    Again the key is CONSISTANTY, people will see things to criticize, then "Whoa, awesome".

    So when I am under camera and serve over 85% of serves in WITHOUT a leg and jumping, I have no problem, those that live to criticize I have no time for.

    Again, anyone REALLY want to try me? My guy here locally backed out.

    I can't move, my arm is weak, but I KNOW HOW TO WIN.

    It's actually a big deal. I talked about that number 1 girl at the UW, but what people don't understand is that she told me "I outplay everyone, but I'm AFRAID TO WIN". She played great, but well I don't understand, some lack killer instinct to win?
     
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  34. hawk eye

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    Think about it this way:

    if you play like Fed you're still gonna be a low 4.5 at best.
    If you play like a 2.0 you're still gonna be a low 3.5.

    So the bandwith is about 1 whole point at max. Maybe that will loosen you up..
     
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  35. Relinquis

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    why would it matter?

    just make sure you're not wearing anything too silly and don't do anything ridiculous, e.g. strange scream, fight, weird gesture, etc... i.e. anything that could turn you into an internet meme.

    no need to worry about the actual tennis. even if you are very bad, no one will care... if you are good you might get some positive responses.

    can't see it being more stressful than playing in front of a crowd or people you want to impress.
     
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  36. Mick3391

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    Did you win?

    Video loaded HOW DO YOU EDIT? So the video is done, HOW DO YOU EDIT.
     
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  37. Mick3391

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    OK, no edit, may be a bit boring. Teaching my friend how to hit using a 75 inch wood racquet in the rain so he isn't moving that much, don't want him to slip.

    The tall, extremely handsome guy on the other end not moving is me;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UcRCo7WEiw
     
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  38. sureshs

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    That is another issue. I have noticed that strange quantum optics effects occur when I am photographed which make my middle parts seem much bigger than they actually are.
     
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    Let it go brother! I look like Frankenstein even though I move like a ghost, just play, no one will judge you badly, there will be freaks, but just ignore them.
     
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    Just as we finished the warmup it came down in buckets. Typical South Florida scattered thundershower. Sometimes it dries out after just a couple of hours, but my opponent had to spend the rest of the day studying (to be a lawyer).

    Man, I was ready to go too. I just hope I'm as up the next time we meet, as I really need to beat this guy. He's one of the few people in the league who I have a realistic chance of beating. If I win our next match, then we can play a rubber match.

    I edit using Windows Movie Maker 2.6. I have Windows 7 operating system. If you're using Windows operating system and you have Windows Movie Maker I can help you with editing. If you don't have Windows Movie Maker, then you can download it for free.
    Let me know when you have it.


    @ sureshs,
    Sorry, no more off-topic posts from me. Promise.
    Are you doing videos?
     
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  41. TomT

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    That happens to me with photos and videos too. Also when I look in a mirror. :shock: That darned quantum optics photography, video, mirror stuff, eh? :lol: (PS. I think the phenomenon might be explained by the optical Bloch equations. Or is that the optical Blob equations? :confused:)
     
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  42. TomT

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    Actually, I'm not sure how you'd edit this. I think it's ok as is. Saw some nice shots, and some not so nice shots. Pretty predictable for playing in a pool of water while it's raining. :confused: Pretty harsh weather up there in the Pacific Northwest. I guess I can identify with your tennis fanaticism and desire to get out there even when conditions are less than perfect. We used to do the same thing when I was a kid. Not for tennis, but for other sports like baseball and basketball that normally aren't played in the rain.

    I think those are 65 sq. in. wood racquets. Not sure though.

    Re the video. You don't have to upload the .AVI source file to YouTube. Even if you don't edit it you can still make it into a much smaller .WMV file of similar quality that will load in minutes. You can do this with Windows Movie Maker, or any of many other free video conversion programs.

    @ sureshs,
    I meant that this post is my last off-topic post in this thread. :oops:
     
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    Yea, playing in the rain is slower and more erratic than clay, but it's good practice, and heh, do we have a choice?

    People will see Mick SUCK, then be like "Wow, that was awesome". I'd like Mr. Ash Smith's input, but most are only here for themselves, but I'd LOVE his input.

    Clearly in the next video I'll put up, Mick is using a "real" racquet, still in the rain, but you can see the difference.

    See, my idea, right or wrong is to teach him what Borg and Mac knew, plus modern game, so he has an advantage over everyone, even if it's one point
     
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    That's cos you've got a personality disorder.
     
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    So far, filming really seems to mess with me, even thought it's only for me to see. I'll go hit serves or hit off a wall by myself with a camera and cannot loosen up. I can't seem to relax when there's a camera on me.
     
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  46. sureshs

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    Then imagine how much more difficult it is for the pros
     
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    Just dont think about it
     
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    No footage still after 3 months?
     
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    At worse a few hundred people will see it. It's not likely that the audience will be in the thousands let alone millions... Even then some of those will be repeat views so don't sweat it. I put a few vids up and it only racked up about 100 views or so from friends and people on this forum over the last year.

    Also don't try to show off for the camera :)
     
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    I'd say put on a wig and false beard, and pretend you're George Bastl.
    You can't go wrong with that.
     
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