How to Hit a buggy whip shot?

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  1. shadowbuster

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    I have been wanting to learn how to hit a buggy whip shot, so i went to google and typed in "How to hit a buggy whip shot," it brought up alot of sites. I went to every site site on the first couple of pages, none of those sites helped me in the least. so can any 1 tell me how to hit a buggy whip shot, or give me a site that can tell me how. thnx.
     
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  2. raftermania

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  3. shadowbuster

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    Yes Kaidoh is the reason i want to learn the buggy whip shot. nooooooooow can any 1 TELL me how to HIT the buggy whip shot????????
     
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  4. takeuchi

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    i think you have to hit it from an open stance. You hit it late and i think you are supposed to follow over your RIGHT shoulder (for rightie). This is what i remember reading somewhere.
     
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  5. raftermania

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    I think the most obvious buggy whip shot in pro tennis is Lindsay Davenports. Her racquet whips right up and over her dominant shoulder. This type of FH is preached by superguru Robert Lansdorp and can sometimes be seen in his other pupils: Sampras and Sharapova (Who knows maybe even Kaidoh learned from Lansdorp).

    Try a search for his work at your local bookstore or on the internet.
     
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  6. Noelle

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    It's spelled Lansdorp, isn't it?
     
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  7. raftermania

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    yup my bad
     
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    We could use a wmv or gif clip to see one or more of these and talk about the mechanics more specifically.
    For example, it seems to always be hit open stance.
    Any particular grips required or to be avoided ??

    Anyone have any clips to contribute ??
     
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  10. Z-Man

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    Use an Eastern grip, make contact slightly behind you, swing almost straight up, snap your wrist, and finish on the right side of your body. It's all topspin. Practice by dropping a ball a few feet to your right. Hit the shot on the run when a netrusher volleys out wide to your forehand. You can go behind him crosscourt, go down the line, or open the face for a sweet topspin lob. After you nail the shot, be sure to fistpump and yell "VAMOS", "LET'S GO" or whatever your signature explative is. Mine is "OHHHH YEAH!!!"
     
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    hehehe, than pull a safin and whip your pants down
     
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  12. Rickson

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    I use the buggywhip for lobs. I'm not crazy about the shot, but it's great for hitting topsin lobs with.
     
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  13. zcarzach

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    From what I remember, it is also called a reverse follow through... you might want to google that.
     
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  14. matchpoints

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    I want to learn all the shots in that show even though some might go against the laws of physics ;)
     
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  15. shadowbuster

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    Ya i kno, the anime/manga of "Prince of Tennis" is wut got me into tennis, and to me the shot i want to learn the most is the Snake (a.k.a. Buggy Whip) of kaidoh's.
     
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    I use it in emergency situation and I didn't even know there is a name for it. I usually use it when there is something coming way faster then I anticipate (means my preparation is late). I didn't even have to learn it, just force into hitting the ball that way sometimes.
     
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  17. ILoveChokers

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    Is the buggy whip forehand the helicopter forehand? where your racket ends above your right shoulder if you are right handed instead of above your left shoulder?

    Look at Paola Suarez match, all her forehands are buggy whip shots.
     
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    Note that on the 2nd link from Marius, on the lower left is a slider control that will let you slow down Pete's buggy whip shot to very very slow if you want to study it.
     
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  20. geniusbob808

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    You know Fuji's move, the one where the ball goes up after contact, hits the base line, then comes back to his hand? Well, that is possible but it requires tons and tons of backspin.
     
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    are you retarded

    that shot is not possible. i'd like to see anyone do it even federer
     
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  22. emo5

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    Yes well its effective (from my point of view) because:
    You dont have to rotate your hips as much when your on the run.
    You see, when you hit your normal shots and swing diagonally, you do tend to rotate your hips to get power and control, but when your on the run or chasing down a lob, you dont have the time. It works great for me when I'm in trouble.
     
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  23. siber222000

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    didn't martina hingis also used buggy whip shot?
     
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  24. FD3S

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    If you wanna talk POT moves, Fuji's Tsubame Gaeshi is sound in theory; hit a really hard forehand slice (volley; you'll need all the counterspin you can get, and once the ball hits the ground a lot of it is lost) on a heavily topspun groundstroke and you get a very low, fast skidding shot.

    And then there's Drive A.
     
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  25. skuludo

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    Whats Drive A?

    I only remember seeing Drive B. Produces a B.
     
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  26. FD3S

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    A swinging volley towards one's face at point blank range. Guaranteed point, but might get you defaulted.
     
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  27. skuludo

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    Now I remember. It was done against Jin Akutsu

    You won't get disqualified.
     
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  28. Triple S

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    I can hit a buggy whip with my backhand. Learned it from playing ping pong.. it travels the same way a forehand buggy whip would
     
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  29. Marius_Hancu

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    I updated the Sampras link in the above. Sorry for the delay.
     
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  30. geniusbob808

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    what i meant was it is possible if you have TONS AND TONS OF SPIN which is actually impossible...

    and ping pong is fun to play with spin. its much easier
     
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  31. DragonFly

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    Cool drive is where its at.. bounces off your opponent's racquet and into his face.
     
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  32. Triple S

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    lmao the ova's suck. Like Kikumaru's match, then Fuji's Fourth Counter. It's all crap
     
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  33. siber222000

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    drive A is this, u hit directly at ur opponent face, by reaction ur opponent should hold racquet up to protect his face from the ball coming at his face. Then when he blocks it, ball comes up into the air like this /_ . Now when ball comes up, you would smash that ball so it'll make A in the side way
     
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  34. thevillageidiot

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    why wouldn't you just do that rondo towards destruction move, where atobe hits the handle of the opponent's racquet and it bounces up for an easy smash?
    :D
     
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  35. xtremerunnerars

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    Why wouldn't you just hit a shot that doesn't bounce? If he's got the accuracy to hit their racquet out of their hand, then it it to the single spot they can't reach.....i don't like the rondo towards destruction.


    And about the OVAs sucking, no way man. You're probably one of those physics professors who hates Prince of Tennis :p
     
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  36. Zets147

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    I think I rondoed into somebody's frame once then I hit another smash for a winner lol
     
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  37. Triple S

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    Dude I loved the series but honestly.... What was the point of Fuji learning how to hit 3 balls in a row? That counter was just hitting back that lame zigzag-ish shot which was also pretty lame. Kikumaru friggin made a clone of himself which he could hug and such (meaning it wasn't just him moving really fast). Only OVA I enjoyed really was Echizen's match

    At least the series had a bit of realism to it... MOST the shots in PoT are THEORETICALLY possible

    man if I was a physics professor at age 16 I must be smart as hell
     
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  38. siber222000

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    lol because drive A have a chance to actually HIT the opponent face lawl :mrgreen:
     
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  39. geniusbob808

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    Actually I'd say it doesn't have much... I mean a middle schooler doing things some pros cant even do...

    Also something really funny I remember was the "CHANGE OVER!!!" with the pink flame, and then Kabaji copied him. I was laughing so hard. Imagine some pro do that in the middle of the game.
     
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  40. AJK1

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    I use it for lobs and some returns of serve.
     
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  41. Triple S

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    I meant the shots, not the people themselves. Of course a 12-year old can't beat Lleyton Hewitt
     
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    i just had a brain fart... you know the moon volley? If he really does hit it as a volley, why doesn't he just let it go and call it out? there's no use in volleying from the baseline, right? Since a volley is when you hit it before it bounces?
     
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  43. geniusbob808

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    This is interesting... I never thought of it, but when he does it, he follows through making it a lob, right? Plus, I'm not sure but doesn't it bounce before he hits it? Since he does this it's actually not a volley. I don't know why this is. Could be a mistake, or he does it in a way that he punches the ball but follows through to not affect the ball. And I could be mistaken about the ball bouncing.
     
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  44. indianpryd45

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    well, i suppose you could do Fuji Syusuke's move Higuma Otoshi if you are nimble and twisty perhaps

    you would have to somehow go to where the smash is going to be hit, then you return the ball, and as you do, rotate your body into a kneeling position to where your racquet is out to the side and with your back facing the net.

    Higuma Otoshi

    as for Snake, i dont think it can be done to such a big extent to where it has a HUGE, SHARP curve, but Buggy Whip is pretty close to it. Boomerang Snake definately isnt possible(hitting around the umpire chair to the court for a point)

    good luck with your POT(Prince of tennis) move searches
     
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    What I truly wanna see someone do is the Tezuka Zone which is totally impossible to execute in reality cuz so much spin is involved. But its really awesome to see it haha.
     
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  46. patrick922

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    the only time i use the buggy whip shot [or as i like to call it the whipper] is in emergency situations and when im being rushed. the time when i use it is when i am running crosscourt and then use the shot...... kinda like a running forehand with side spin so it curls in
     
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  47. donnyz89

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    have you seen the prince of tennis live action movie? you get to see it done in real life... pretty sweet. you might learn a few things. I like to call it the snake shot though, I'm working on it on my table tennis :)
     
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  48. skuludo

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    The moves and the court positioning is messed up in the Prince Of Tennis Live action movie. Echizen's Twist serve looks messed up. Especialy the knee bend he does. He also looked pretty stupid hitting the cyclone smash. The actors in the movie did not hit a tennis ball. It was all cg. Also I think some of the Seigaku regulars have never played tennis before.

    Death Note's tennis is much closer to real life. L vs Light Yagami.


    Just take a look at the youtube video of Federer's slow motion forehands. In one of the clips he hits the buggy whip shot.
     
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  49. Andres

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    To hit with backspin to the opponent's baseline, and to get it back to YOUR baseline... it must be hit with 25000 rpm at... 400 mph... or so :mrgreen:
     
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    ^_^ Almost all of these moves are impossible...even though it's what got me into tennis too, it's still impossible to do the snake unless you can control hitting the frame. XD
     
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