How to hold a continental grip when serving?

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  1. crystal_clear

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    I start with continental grip and then kind of SLIP BACK to Eastern - SW grip when finishing serve. Any suggestions? Thanks.
     
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  2. Djokovicfan4life

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    Used to have the same problem myself. Try wrapping your thumb around the grip to insure that you stay in the continental grip.

    Matt
     
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  3. Bud

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    How you switch between 3 grips during the very quick action of a serve is beyond me.

    If you can't seem to control it... place the racquet into your hand in a continental grip and securely tape with duct tape. It will then be impossible to change grips and you can also relax your fingers and wrist a bit... which is also proper serving technique.
     
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  4. crystal_clear

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    I saw many recreation players have the same problem.
     
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  5. crystal_clear

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    Only two grip. Ending with non-continental grip.

    You mean people really use tape to glue their fingers?
     
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  6. Bud

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    You said the grips were continental to eastern to semi-western... by my count, that is three grips.
     
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  7. Bud

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    Not usually... but then most people don't subconsciously slip into alternate grips when serving.

    The tape will ensure that your grip WILL NOT change. If you can change grips with a duct taped hand... there's no hope for ya! :)
     
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  8. Zeppy

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    I don't know either but it does happen. I've witnessed a friend of mine starting on continental and finishing on semi-western when he was done serving.

    I think people naturally slip back into their usual forehand grip before they swing at the ball.
     
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  9. RoddickAce

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    It took me some time to correct that >_>, it felt REALLY unnatural at first. But I just kept practicing and slightly modified my grip closer and closer to a continental grip as I practiced with each modified grip more and more to the point where my grip kind of edges towards the eastern backhand grip.
     
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  10. Zeppy

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    Progression. Nice. That's one way to do learn to keep your grip at continental.

    I think I just forced myself onto continental and got used to it that way.
     
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  11. larry10s

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    practice serving with a BACKHAND grip. then youll slip into continental
     
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    Initially I remember it as painful but you just have to grip a little harder I would think to prevent the "slip" as such and deal with the uncomfortable feeling at the beginning. Once you get used to the relative position of your hand through the motion you should be able to relax your grip again.
     
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  13. larry10s

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    another suggestion. if you get into continental grip and slide your hand up the racquet to above the grip handle you will be grabbing the racquet by the frame. parctice serving holding the frame getting used to the swingpath and pronation. the frame is not rounded like the handle so you are less likely to slip. i would guess you like the feel of hitting the ball flatter and a more forehand grip lets you more easily acheive this. but it is a flawed technique and will prevent you from developing a slice anfd topspin serve done the road.learning the correct internal rotation of your arm and pronating will get you that "flat feel" and ultimately a much more powerful serve than you have now.
     
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  14. LeeD

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    Hit many, many more serves with the continental and using a NEW overgrip or tacky new grip.
    RELAX your hand so you barely hold onto the racket during the swing, so you don't add pressure and adjust the grip.
     
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    try using a tacky OG, and if that doesnt solve your problem, then maybe the grip is a little small for you.

    that happened to me the other day and it was cause my supergrap OG was very worn out and slippery, so i put a new one and problem solved.
     
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  16. Sublime

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    Maybe you're hitting badly off center. Work on attacking the ball with the edge of your frame as this will become the center of your string bed when your forearm pronates.
     
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  17. JavierLW

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    I think cc means that from serve to serve it gradually changes, not that it changes during the serve itself.

    It sounds like more of a matter where it's reverting to something that's comfortable. That's easy to do as a match gets involved or tight, and your mind isnt so much on your grip anymore but what you may need to do in order to win this point or that point.

    Like LeeD said (if that's what he said, I dont have my ruler or protractor with me today), practice, practice, practice until the continental grip is the one that you are the most comfortable with.
     
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    When players serve, during the backswing, the player loses conscious control of the grip as focus moves to the tossed ball. If the player's natural or more familiar grip is the eastern forehand, (or anything else), they will usually make the grip change at the full collapse of the racquet on the backswing.

    One tip I've used to help players keep from doing this is to hold a dime in the palm in different places and serve. If the player changes grips, the dime will usually fall out.

    Also, try being conscious of your little finger during the backswing. By squeezing it and feeling it, you won't change your grip.

    Good luck.
     
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  19. mawashi

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    My coach taught me to try n stay loose n to even try to serve using 3 - 4 fingers. That way I don't try to tense up n force my way through the serve. Prevents me from changing my grip too.

    mawashi
     
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    We'll let the OP answer this for clarification. However, it's not uncommon for some lower-level players to start their serve with a continental grip and end up using an eastern grip to strike the ball. Somewhere during the serve motion they rotate the racquet.
     
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  21. crystal_clear

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    That's me.:)
     
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    I felt so uncomfortable with the right grip. Well, practise make perfect.
     
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  23. crystal_clear

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    I use two handed backhand.:(
     
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  24. crystal_clear

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    En, no pain no gain.:(
     
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  25. crystal_clear

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    A good idea~ It is hard for me to hit flat serves with non-continental grip.
     
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  26. Sublime

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    Hold the racquet in a continental grip and reach your hand/racket in the air over your head. Don't think about how the racket is facing or anything, just put your arm in the air.

    That is the natural orientation of your hand and racket face at impact. If you don't think about pronating, this is what your racket face will look like. Now here's the key to making this feel natural and right. Turn your body (ie move your feet) so that the racket face is facing where you want to hit the ball.

    Take note of the direction your shoulders and chest are facing. This is the orientation to the net you want at contact. For me that means my shoulder is roughly pointing at my target. Pull your racket back (not all the way to racket drop, but back) and hit a couple. Don't bend your knees or rotate your shoulders much... just try and get comfortable with the grip, swing, and understanding where the ball will go. This will make you comfortable with the grip. At least it really helped me. Now I feel awkward if I'm at the service line and the racket is not in a continental or eastern backhand.

    When you're hitting your serve you'll load by rotating back away from this orientation to the net and you'll rotate past this position on follow through, but that orientation you were in is where you want to be at contact.

    As you get more comfortable, you can adjust this and add some snap to your wrist and your pronation, but as you've probably already noticed pronation is going to happen naturally.
     
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  27. origmarm

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    Thanks for the post Dave, never thought of exactly when the grip changes but it makes sense.
     
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  28. crystal_clear

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    Never try tacky grip before.
     
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  29. crystal_clear

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    Hit with edge of the frame then try forearm pronate... That's a good practice.
     
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  30. crystal_clear

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    practice, practice, practice...:)
     
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    Ha, It happens during backswing... I don't even know when. I change grip when serve.


    An Interesting idea~ I got to try this.

    squeezing my little finger...I got to try this.
     
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  32. crystal_clear

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    Who is OP?
     
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    Original Poster.
     
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  34. thejoe

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    I used to have this problem, and I tried the thumb-wrapping technique and it seemed to work.

    Nice avatar Matt. I used to have that as a poster on my wall.
     
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  35. crystal_clear

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    What is thumb-wrapping technique? use duct tape for wrapping the thumb?
     
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  36. Fay

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    My continental just favors an eastern BH.... I found where the butt on the racquet would fit in my palm and not move. Different racquet manufacturers make the shape of the handle and the butt differently ... I tried different demo racquets until I found which allowed my hand to stay where I wanted it.

    I do not recommend taping your hand to the racquet (maybe the poster was joking) ... a pianist tried to tape the 4th finger out of his way and had to have it amputated.
     
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  37. crystal_clear

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    I didn't know there are different butts...
    LOL~ that is a good one.:)
     
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    I took out a ton of demos, every brand I could get my hands on ... I have a small broad muscular hand with short fingers and the slight differences in the handles made a huge difference ... and Prince was the only brand that didn't have bulk where the muscles in my hand are ... Wilson and some had "too much stuff" and dug in my hand. I remember, I think it was Yonex that has a more octagon shape, but it might have been another.

    When you get the racquet the feels right, I think you'll know right away after using a lot of 'em. Good luck
     
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    try serve motion in the air without a ball to get used to the NEW UNNATIONAL UNCOMFORTABLE OWKWARD grip... good advice.
     
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    I don't mean with tape, I mean just make sure you are gripping the back of the racquet with the thumb to stop it slipping. Sometimes the thumb would be loose, causing the grip to slip.
     
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    Seems to me, just more serve practice..
    I have the same problem on the lefty flat out wide on duece court. I sometimes unconciously let the grip slip from conti to east forehand during the backswing, and the serve always goes well wide.
    Tried to cure it by S/V'ing, worked.
    Tried to cure it by THINKING... worked also.
    Thought I had it figured out... NOPE... on stress points, when I'm thinking strategy and focusing on my own game, it still slips!
    More practice.
     
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    Wow! how eloquently stated ... outstanding advice !
     
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    I try... if I can give back little from what I've leeched from here, so be it :)
     
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  44. crystal_clear

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    I have a brilliant idea and it could be a million dollar business. :D

    Manufacturer could design a racquet suits for SW forehand (or other grips) and continental serve grip. People can use the special racquet with natural holding to learn new grip.
     
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  45. halalula1234

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    i had this problem before as well. When i first change service grip from eastern to conti. I started with conti and hit the ball with conti but the follow through kinda twists a bit to extreme-conti kinda grip. So i did like what the larry guy said i start a little more to the Bh so as it hit and finishes it will be conti.
     
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  46. Lotto

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    Basically just hit hundreds of balls with the grip, focusing just on the grip and technique and trying to get the ball in obviously but not worrying about the outcome. It will begin to become more and more natural as you keep practicing it.
     
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  47. larry10s

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    you can learn what a one handed backhand grip is (index knuckle on #1 bavel, heel pad on #1 bevel) and start with that grip to serve.
     
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    One product that is out there is called a Power V Grip. It really accentuates and really forces one to use a strong continental grip(on serves, and volleys and overheads for that matter). What I mean by this is with this Power V Grip product, one can really feel a very distinct continental grip. It is also good for the SW and western FH.
     
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  50. crystal_clear

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    Wow, it is already in the market. I was late. :(:)

    It is very good for beginners to learn the right grip.
    http://www.tennisgeometrics.com/
     
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