How to play for money?

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  1. zapvor

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    This is kinda tough one for me. Last week I played a guy for the first time, and crushed him. 6-1 6-0. he wanted to play 3rd set so i let him win it 6-2. the problem is, the first 2 sets i was trying about 40%. i did not hit a single first serve, and was coming to net a lot goofing around. so i am pretty much way better than him. he did use a demo for that match though.

    we played again few days ago, this time he brought his regular sticks. again, i took it fairly easy, but i got down 3-5 first set when i decided to try to turn it around. but to my surprise, i couldnt! so he beat me. 2nd set i was up 4-1 when he came back again to 4-4 before i pulled out 6-4.

    now here is the thing-both times he's paying me to play. we are supposed to play again. how should i go about this?

    -go 100% and crush him,
    -do the same as i have been the last 2x and see what happens.
     
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  2. Larrysümmers

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    whys he paying you
     
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  3. zapvor

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    something like he wants to know he can play a match at a certain day and time (hes only been playing for a few years and prefers to play out sets for his 'lesson', even though i am not teaching him at all, just playing with him)
     
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  4. Larrysümmers

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    why dont you gamble on it? spice things up
     
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  5. zapvor

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    its not like that. he just likes to play for fun
     
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  6. Larrysümmers

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    so he just pays you to make sure that he has someone to play with at 3pm. basically a paid sparring partner?
    i would say use this time to work on something, drop shots, serveVolley, etc. keep it interested for him, and for you.
     
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  7. zapvor

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    yea kind of like a hitting partner. i am sorry i wasnt clear before. the problem is he expects to get something out of it each time we hit (he wants to improve) so i cant really use the time to practice for myself. by the same token he already took a set off me, so what do i have to offer when we keep playing? haha
     
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  8. SFrazeur

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    Suggestion:
    Never "let" a player win a set or a match. He's paying you for a realistic match play experience. You could easily be giving him a false sense of security in a bad playing pattern or broken stroke. It's basically lying to him. There are things you can do to make it "competitive" for him: once he reaches an appropriate number of groundstrokes for his level then he wins that point. Or he wins the point once completing a certain tactic.

    -SF
     
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  9. TheCheese

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    You could always try working on things you don't normally work on. So, maybe work on winning points with the backhand rather than forehand. Try chipping and charging. Try some drop shots.
     
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  10. LeeD

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    Post 8 nailed it.
    You owe itg to him and YOURSELF to play your best tennis, whether you're working on your own game or not.
    If you play lazy, you will play lazy against other players.
    If you hustle and try, that will happen in match's against other players.
    Since you guys now basically split, you should crush him the next 10 sets so he knows he's paying money for a good cause.
     
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  11. TennisA

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    I'd just straight up ask him how he wants you to play. Does he want you to go 100%? Or does he just want you to give him a challenge, allowing him to work on his game during the match?
     
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  12. 5263

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    I think this is good in conjunction with post #11 which is how I do things. I prefer
    to avoid misunderstanding to the best extent. Still no reason I can't work on
    things like above though...especially if I keep winning.
     
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  13. LeeD

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    That's providing OP has established a winning percentage against the guy who pays him. He has not, not yet.
     
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  14. UCSF2012

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    You're whoring yourself out for tennis. Could be worse. Give him his money's worth, and make sure he comes back for more.
     
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  15. zapvor

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    thanks for the suggestions

    so this guy doesnt mind losing at all. he wants to play better players and improve. winning is not a priority for him which is very smart. he was tossing his racket after numerous points which threw me off a little. i guess i will play better next time. i was trying some shots i normally wouldnt do. i hit a lot of returns down the line to begin the point when i could.
     
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  16. Long Face

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    :shock: Sounds like somebody who knows the business well...

    If I were the OP I would go 100%, but would practice some some lower percentage strokes I normally don't do in "important" matches, or hit where I am usually not comfortable. If I am losing, I try to come back with the game I am best at.

    And matches like this are great for practising your serve placements.
     
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  17. LeeD

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but Zapvor's winning percentage so far is EVEN?
    Better establish a 4-1 set winning percentage before going fancy with trick shots and stuff he can't do.
     
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  18. zapvor

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    good point. i was just trying to get every serve in, not placing it. maybe i will do that more as i play with him so he can get different serves to look at as well.
     
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  19. zapvor

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    Lee just stay out of it. you are not even reading what i wrote
     
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    So far, we get you think you are far superior, but your set scores are about 3-3 in the two times you hit.
    That's what you posted.
     
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  21. zapvor

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    i was barely trying when we played. the only reason he took a set was because down 3-5 when i tried to come back i wasnt prepared to kick it up a level just like that. 2nd set i was up 4-1 easy in like 10minutes.
     
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  22. LeeD

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    I know you are much better.
    Most everyone here knows you are much better.
    Your opponent knows you're much better, but now is wondering.....
    Crush him, set his mind at ease.
     
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  23. 5263

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    I'm not convinced if he couldn't pick it up at 3-5 :twisted:
    :)
     
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  24. zapvor

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    haha. its true he took that set from me. but i wasnt trying much even at 3-5 still all 2nd serves, no slice, no dropshot, no down the line. just rally balls
     
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  25. LeeD

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    So crush him already and he might give you a raise for hitting with him. He'll certainly give you more respect.
     
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  26. zapvor

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    yea you knowo what next time i am going 99%. should be a beatdown
     
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  27. 5263

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    hahaha, he probably won't want to play you anymore:)
     
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  28. zapvor

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    so i played the guy again last week.

    11 straight games. 6-0 6-1 7-6
     
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