How to respond to "What's your rating?"

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  1. Angle Queen

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    This weekend, partner and I played Line 1 in a 7.0MX match and won rather comfortably. After our handshake (which was cordial...as was the entire match), our male opponent asks the two of us..."So....what's your ratings?"

    We must have looked completely confused and rather meekly answered that we're both 3.5s and went on about our way of watching the rest of our teammates.

    Now that I've thought about it, why would he ask? Which one of us did he think was a 3.0?

    Ok, I know, it's probably screwin' with my head a bit...but I don't think I've ever been asked that in a situation where it came completely out of the blue. (Beside, he could've looked it up on tennislink afterwards!).
     
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  2. SlapShot

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    I've been asked multiple times, usually in combo mixed. The last time I was asked, I was asked if I played 5.0 (it was an 8.0 combined match). I am honest when I answer - "I'm a 4.0, but due to grad school time constraints, I only play 4.5."
     
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    My favorite question is : "So where did you play your college tennis?"

    I've been asked that a few times, and only played in HS. I've improved a lot since then, though.

    But usually I say "between 4.0 and 4.5" which is true...I play 4.5 players/tourneys but have a 4.0 self rating and haven't been bumped since I don't play many tourneys.
     
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  4. tennismonkey

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    lol. tough question to answer because after you respond, in their head they are thinking: it's lower than i thought, it's higher than i thought, you're a sandbagger, you're playing up and wasting everyone's time, etc etc.

    you should reply with a question - "what rating do YOU think i am?"
     
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  5. LeeD

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    Just tell the truth as is at the moment. You know what you SHOULD be, what you ONCE were, what you CAN be, but tell them how you are right now.
     
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  6. Totai

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    Its not a tough question, and it doesn't require any drama.
     
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  7. chatt_town

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    Some ask if because they are looking for an excuse for losing to you. I love in Alta when we are kicking in these teams from the country clubs and when they are losing it's always an excuse of some of our guys are teachers and shouldn't be at the level or whatever.....when the truth is most of us started playing in our 30's. They then go out and do their homework and see that some of us may have played in a money tournament and call the alta director or whatever and he will waste 6 hours researching only to find out that none of us have ever come close to winning that tourney. So it gets a lot deeper than them just asking what level. lol I've found that some people just can't handle losing and they are looking for an excuse for doing so. :)

     
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  8. Tammo

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    "well, I was a 6.0, but I was out with a bad back last year, so I'm playing 4.5's this year"
     
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  9. VaththalKuzhambu

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    Respond that you took up tennis just 3 years ago. Win-win for you regardless of whether you won or lost the match.
     
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    Add 0.5 to your actual rating if posting here on TTW. I'm a 7.5 BTW.
     
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    I'd give you a 7.5 in beer drinking anyway.:razz:
     
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  12. michael_1265

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    It sounds like small talk to me. But I'm a guy, I don't read into stuff, and I'm sure I've made remarks like this on occasion just to have something to talk about after a match.
     
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  13. Maui19

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    Yeah no kidding. You know this answer. Just give it.
     
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  14. Angle Queen

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    Thanks guys, for chiming in. I normally consider myself one of y'all... :)

    There was no drama. Just a question, quite frankly, I'd never received before. Not even in Combo (when multiple ratings are the rule).

    I'm over it.
     
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  15. mikeler

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    Are you watching me right now. :)
     
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  16. Fuji

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    Just say this is your first time playing competitively. I've done that a few times in mixed. :lol:

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    Hmmm . . .

    I can't think of a time when I've asked or been asked my rating by opponents after the match.

    If I'm curious about my opponents' ratings, I will look it up or consult the scoresheet. Most of the time I know before I take the court.

    Anyway, I have a standard reply for Bizarro or personal questions:

    "Why do you ask?"

    In your case, AngleQueen, if it was 7.0 mixed combo, you could have been a sandbagging 3.0 with a lower 4.0 guy. Or maybe they figured you were the 4.0 woman and he was a sandbagging 3.5 guy. Either way, it's probably not an insult.
     
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  18. Cindysphinx

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    Wait. I just thought of a situation where I will ask someone their rating:

    When I want to recruit them. I have picked up several players over the years who were opponents.
     
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  19. LeeD

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    Actually....
    I've been asked many times, usually during a match, but sometimes after.
    I have great looking strokes. My strokes don't work at all in a tight match. I can serve a ton, return almost anything, and hit great low volleys and passing shots.
    Unfortunately, I tend to relax on sitters, meaning I miss one third of my shots right off the bat. I lose by mistakes.
     
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  20. Angle Queen

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    No way recruit was involved here. It's an opposing club, more than 30 minutes away. We do not steal each others members or players.

    Still, I couldn't decide if it was a compliment or an insult. More likely, like Michael and some others have said, it was just small talk. I usually ask about their family. Guess that's the Mommy in me. :oops:
     
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    Removed a double post.
     
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  22. Maui19

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    You ARE one of us! :)
     
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    Sometimes it's an easy excuse for your beaten opponents to rationalize their loss ... "they are sandbaggers, that's why they beat us"....

    Next time just say, "I don't know.... I don't really play tennis... I really just hit with my 10 yr old so that both of us learn tennis together."

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  24. corbind

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    You mean the kids here only puff up by Half a point? I'm literally laughing causing me to keep correcting typos. I've seen several threads where a kid would say they're 5.5 but further conversation in threads they ask questions 4.0's would ask.
     
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  25. equinox

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    Imho asker is trying to gather a basic level of info to make judgment if they should file a sandbag complaint.

    Coming out of juniors, I hadn't played for over a year and was asked to emergency fill in for my former clubs C team. I borrow a stick and played imho an inconsistent shocker.

    We won in three tight sets, but i made a critical error in last serving game.

    I lost patience and upped the intensity, serving two big consecutive aces to finish off the match. Partner and opposition were like WTF, where was that all match..

    So we have tea and nice cooked bbq, opposition starts digging with questions. Being young and happy to be playing again, I thoughtlessly spill to much background information (A res, Pen 5, Sect1 jr).

    Week or two later, i heard we lost the points and win, the sore losers lodged a complaint.

    I felt really bad. oth match was a sure team no show forfeit if i didn't play.
     
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  26. OrangePower

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    ^^^^^
    So were you or were you not in fact sandbagging?
     
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    I was helping out a friend's team.

    I didn't even know the meaning or heard the word "sandbagging" at the time.

    So no, I didn't have a guilty mind.
     
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  28. mxmx

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    Can someone please discribe the ratings for me? Seems to me people are inventing their level sometimes. I am definately not a beginner and have played tennis for many years...but have no clue what my rating is or could be.
     
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  29. equinox

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    Google. Been discussed infinitum.

    7.0 Top 150. makes a living. give or take.
    6.5 Journeyman challenger player. top 400. struggles make living.
    6.0 decent itf futures player. wins FT rds and can't make/hold CH jump.
    5.5 decent open player, itf failing qualifying player.
    5.0 top club player, teaching pro. won club champs 8x in row.
    4.5 top league competitor. Best of the hackers. lives breathes tennis.
    4.0 intermediate hacker. owns social comps, but really sucks.
    3.5 weekend hack, angry business man with pot belly.
    3.0 what's a let? score?
     
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  30. mxmx

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    But it sounds so much better when you say it :p
    I wanted a non official discription....and you gave one...thanks :p

    By your definitions, i should be a 4.0-4.5 player more or less...

    I found this:
    http://www.usta.com/Play-Tennis/USTA-League/Information/About_NTRP/

    (ps. I thought the system was an actual rating system...as in someone rating you or having to need specific proof for ratings...did not know you can actually self rate)
     
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  31. beernutz

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    "Why do you ask?"
     
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    Aries! Wanna get a drink together?
     
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    I rip off my shirt (ala Djokovic) and say "I'm a perfect 10 b*tch".
     
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  35. chatt_town

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    Hey.....watch it buddy how you describe 4.0's...hell we live and breathe tennis to. :)That's funny as hell because i do own the social comps around here and in atl.lol This is some funny ****.lol @ Sugar Creek they play the song "party like a rockstar" when I hit the campus.lol

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82vpIsQ3lX8&ob=av2n

    So what is in your mind a guy that comes out of a Div 1 school like Ole Miss? I'm asking for a reason and I'll explain after I get your response. Also, So Fed, Nadal and the likes are 7.0's?


     
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  36. OrangePower

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    Ole Miss has a good team. IIRC, Devin Britton played for them a few years back. He was at least a 6.5 back then and maybe 7.0 (or close) now. In general, probably their regular players are 6.0, and maybe a few 5.5, and then the scrubs who don't get to play are 5.0. Of course that is when they are college age and playing/training regularly. So what do you mean by 'comes out' - you mean a guy still in his 20's, or someone who played for them 20 years ago? Someone who is say 50 and played for a good D1 school back in the day would probably be in the 4.5-5.0 range depending on what physical shape he's in.
     
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    I was talking about coming out as in their 20's. I know one of their players(Poole) has been coming here it seems for like about 4 years now. He's played in the finals like 3 times losing 2 of them. I asked because I noticed it said the chart said something about the 6.0's making a living and I hardly call that a living if they are competing for 2,000 bucks week and week out. It would seem to me they are spending as much as they are making and that's even when they make it. It make sme glad that I picked it up at 34. That has got to be a pain knowing basically that while "hackers" like myself love watching them, the reality is they are trying to figure out who they can stay with in the tourney next weekend to offset the fact they didn't even make it the finals of this weekend's tourney. ughh...got to be a rough life. Poole told me last year he was only going to do this for a few more years and then he was going to stop playing all together. That's burn out for your @$$. I hope to never get burned out. :)

    correction...it said the 6.0's don't make a living...so it appears to be right on target from what I'm seeing here every year. :)


     
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    I played against and with Poole last weekend, was an interesting experience. Either way, he is and was a very good player.
     
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  39. SlapShot

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    Now I get to answer one number - 4.5. :)
     
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  40. TennisDawg

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    If you have an official rating just tell them. Caution, if you are self rating yourself that counts zip nada, same as no rating. If you don't have a computer rating or been rated by a certified pro than you are zip, nada. Or you could just tell them you are 3.5 that's pretty average, works for me.
     
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    Tell them you'll show them yours if they show you there's first.
     
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    There is only one way to properly respond to such a question. Curl up into a ball on the ground, suck your thumb, and moan as if you are in pain. Do this for no less than 2 hours.

     
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    Wow these club matches are serious business. You barely won in 3 sets and they still filed a complaint?

    Not surprised by anything though. I played in a USTA rec league which doesn't count for anything- not on tennislink, no playoffs, doesn't affect ratings. Even nonUSTA players who can have any rating are allowed to play. So the LC refers me a player for this rec league so I assume he is legit. He plays the captain of one of the teams with the most ringers and out of level players in the league and beats him. He whines and files a complaint even though the league doesn't really count for anything or mean anything. Funny thing is he has probably 5 players on his team that are better than the player he lost to but he will still complain.
     
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    I don't play doubles, but I've had a few players ask me what my NTRP rating is. According to the guidelines, I self-rated myself at 3.0, which has turned out to be pretty accurate for our non-USTA league.

    I play in a non-USTA league where everybody is self-rated at the start, and then ratings are adjusted up or down depending on performance-- and it seems to be pretty accurate. The 3.5 guys beat the 3.0 guys, the 4.0 guys beat the 3.5 guys ... consistently.

    So, wrt the thread question, when people ask my NTRP rating then I tell them 3.0.

    Today I hit with a guy who said he was a 5.0 (back in the day, a former college player, but who knows). Nice strokes, but really not much different from mine. We had a nice hitting session. That is, I hit with him at a certain level, and really have no idea how much he might be able to turn it up.

    Regarding people who have solid stroke production then I think that there are basically two things that separate them ... movement (speed, quickness) and thinking (ie., mental toughness). At the low amateur level that I play on, the difference is often just the quality of stroke production. Most 3.0 players simply don't have good groundstrokes or serving motions. 3.5 players are usually markedly better in this regard, but inconsistent and mentally challenged. 4.0 players typically have solid stroke and serve mechanics with, nevertheless, readily identifiable weaknesses that a tough solid player can take advantage of. Above that, I don't know. I suppose that everything just gets a lot faster and more accurate as the ratings increase.

    Anyway, I thought your consideration was a little bit interesting. I wouldn't give a second thought to why somebody asked about my NTRP rating. I just tell them what I think it is at the moment. I've had people tell me that my rating should be higher, but then I remind them that I lose to 3.0 players occasionally, 3.5 players a lot, and haven't beaten a 4.0 since returning to tennis a few months ago.
     
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  47. emilyhex

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    It depends on if I'm having a good hair day :)
     
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  48. TeflonTom

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    that just makes you seem either weird or rude

    do u get equally defensive about all smalltalk in this manner?

    i am not sure why ppl are so het up about this question. its not like its a state secret, let alone difficult 2 answer.
     
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