How would Nadal and Chang do if played 10 times each in primes?

Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by nadalgirl26, Jul 15, 2006.

?

What would head wich each other be if Nadal and Chang played 10 times in primes?

  1. Nadal 10-0

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  2. Nadal 9-1

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Nadal 8-2

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Nadal 7-3

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Nadal 6-4

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. 5-5 even

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Chang 6-4

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. Chang 7-3

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. Chang 8-2

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. Chang 9-1

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. nadalgirl26

    nadalgirl26 Banned

    Joined:
    May 26, 2006
    Messages:
    182
    I find the former American-Honge Konish player Michael Chang played a simlar style game to my Nadal. Just alot weaker then my cute Nadal played. My Nadal hitsa way harder, moves much faster, is mental much tougher, has better finesse, and much better serve and net play. So I think if they played 10 times my Nadal would win all 10. However I will let you vote, how would they do vs each other if they were in their priems together and played 10 times. Lets say they play 4 on hard courts, 3 on grass, and 3 on clay.
     
    #1
  2. malakas

    malakas Banned

    Joined:
    May 27, 2006
    Messages:
    15,775
    Location:
    Greece
    I say 11-0 nadal would win.At least!!
     
    #2
  3. TacoBellBorderBowl1946

    TacoBellBorderBowl1946 Professional

    Joined:
    May 4, 2006
    Messages:
    1,085
    9-1 chang, your boy Nadal is slower than Chang in his prime, look up clips of Chang in his teen years and then post your opinion.
     
    #3
  4. rod99

    rod99 Professional

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2005
    Messages:
    1,206
    nadal would win 6 or 7 of the 10. all of them on clay (chang never had good results at the french after he won it except for the final in '95), probably all of them on grass, but chang was a very good hard court player, better than nadal on hard.
     
    #4
  5. Shabazza

    Shabazza Legend

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2006
    Messages:
    5,104
    nadalgirl26:
    Why do I get the feeling that your Nadal isn't the same person we're talking about here in these forums and the one who is #2 in the world!
     
    #5
  6. helloworld

    helloworld Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2006
    Messages:
    4,667
    Nadal will probably Dominate Chang just like other ATP players on tour at the moment. He doesn't really have a weapon to hurt Nadal. This is a total mismatch. you need BIG weapons to beat Nadal (eg. Blake's flat forehand).
     
    #6
  7. zhan

    zhan Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2006
    Messages:
    1,005
    chang only had speed ... which is like hewitt but hewitt has good weapons and is consistent...
    nadal has big weapons like the forehand, great backhand and is very speedy on the court... nadal's serve is getting better if not great... like 70%+ of his first serves are going in and his 2nd serve doesnt suck anymore
    ...
    nadal 8-2 ...
    chang would be obliterated on clay, rebound ace... he would be better on hard and grass... where those 2 wins would come from... (you cant beat the same guy again and again... you will have a let down somehow lol)
     
    #7
  8. Marat Safinator

    Marat Safinator Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2006
    Messages:
    765
    chang would win, thats for certain. the angles he can produce are perfect.
     
    #8
  9. goober

    goober Legend

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2004
    Messages:
    8,489
    What does "American-Honge Konish" mean? Are you attempting to say he is Hong Kongish as in he is from Hong Kong? Actually his parents are from Taiwan. I wouldn't say that Nadal moves faster than Chang did in his prime. Nadal would win the majority of matches though. Not sure what the point of this comparison is though. Nadal is clearly is already a better player than Chang ever was.
     
    #9
  10. Marat Safinator

    Marat Safinator Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2006
    Messages:
    765
    Nadal, the pig, would be cooked by chang.
     
    #10
  11. zhan

    zhan Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2006
    Messages:
    1,005
    +1000000000000000
     
    #11
  12. callitout

    callitout Professional

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2004
    Messages:
    1,302
    In their primes they'd both run down every shot until eventually Chang lost on an outright winner by Nadal. As retrievers they are similar, but I think Nadal is even better. But on offense Chang never hit 90 mph forehand winners, the way Nadal does. Nadal's ball may have tons of spin but they had the gun on it in paris and he's hitting as hard as anyone just with more spin.
    Also Nadal's serve is infinitely better than Chang's. Nadal rarely gets attacked on it, and is starting to get some winners off it.
     
    #12
  13. Golden Retriever

    Golden Retriever Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2004
    Messages:
    1,950
    Just compare their biceps.
     
    #13
  14. 35ft6

    35ft6 Legend

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2005
    Messages:
    6,557
    Nadal would be a really bad match up for Chang. Chang needed his opponents to lose patience and miss "easy" shots they weren't used to seeing coming back, to become frustrated by Chang's speed, and I just don't see Nadal becoming mentally unravelled by that. He never gives up. He would eat Michael up.
     
    #14
  15. superman1

    superman1 Legend

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2006
    Messages:
    5,241
    I don't like comparing generations. Maybe Chang would find a way to win. The guy reached #2 in the world and gave Agassi, Sampras and Courier some trouble, it's a shame he is so underrated.

    But you've got to figure that Nadal, at the shape he is in right now, wouldn't lose to that many people in history. Let's wait a couple years and see if he can keep it up.
     
    #15
  16. uxnaitoahz

    uxnaitoahz Rookie

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2005
    Messages:
    203
    :mrgreen: Okay who else finds that funny? :mrgreen:
     
    #16
  17. Luca

    Luca New User

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2006
    Messages:
    33
    LOL!!! A bit obsessive, maybe??:rolleyes:
    Teens Fans...always so passionates.
    Please, donĀ“t be so hard with her. Most of us have had an idol or something.
    How many nights I dreamt of my Jonathan Knight (NKOTB)..So, if comparing, maybe being a Nadal fan is more comprehensive..
    Yes, sometimes Love is blind...:)
     
    #17
  18. NamRanger

    NamRanger G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2005
    Messages:
    13,910
    Chang has weapons, you kidding me? Although he wasn't the hardest hitter, he was probably the most accuracy and precision when hitting on the run, while STILL creating incredible angles. Nadal just gets the ball back into play most of the time, Chang hit winners on nearly every ball he ran down.
     
    #18
  19. stoneagle

    stoneagle Rookie

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2006
    Messages:
    146
    if nadal can dominate the #1 fed, why can't nadal
    dominate chang who doesn't even have power. chang is
    mostly speed, and he lacks in power. nadal will blow chang
    away, to 10,0.
     
    #19
  20. Rickson

    Rickson G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2004
    Messages:
    12,736
    Location:
    USA
    Racism will get you nowhere, you dimwit.
     
    #20
  21. tennisboy87

    tennisboy87 Guest

    I think if they played Nadal would beat Chang like 8 out of 10 times.
     
    #21
  22. VamosRafa

    VamosRafa Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    May 3, 2004
    Messages:
    4,199
    I agree. Chang never faced a guy like Nadal, whereas I think Nadal has faced Chang-like players.

    But we can only say this hindsight, given today's physical game and racquet technology and such. So I agree with those who think these polls are entertaining in a way, but are in no way indicative of what would really happen. You would think that Federer in his prime would be killing Nadal, who is not in his prime, but that's not happening yet.
     
    #22
  23. Rickson

    Rickson G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2004
    Messages:
    12,736
    Location:
    USA
    They're both retrievers, but I give Michael the edge.
     
    #23
  24. VamosRafa

    VamosRafa Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    May 3, 2004
    Messages:
    4,199
    Easy to say, because you can't be proven wrong. ;-) But IMO, Rafa does just fine against "other retrievers."
     
    #24
  25. uxnaitoahz

    uxnaitoahz Rookie

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2005
    Messages:
    203
    Nadal is not nearly smart as Chang on the court. Chang WILL find a way to win. He will give you hell before you take him down. Remember he won the French serving underhanded... :D
     
    #25
  26. FiveO

    FiveO Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2005
    Messages:
    3,259
    I think Chang's h2h's vs. the two most Nadal-like competitors I can think of, Muster and Moya, and the probability that Nadal is superior to either this hypothetical match-up would be decidedly in Nadal's favor 8-2 or better and even worse for Chang if all the matches were played on clay.

    Chang was 3-6 vs. Muster and 0-5 vs. Moya.
     
    #26
  27. VamosRafa

    VamosRafa Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    May 3, 2004
    Messages:
    4,199
    Rafa won RG the first time he played it. Not true with Chang, who had played it the year before he won it.

    But Rafa was so good he didn't have to resort to serving serving underhanded.

    We are talking about teenagers here, not veterans. And do you really think that Rafa doesn't find a way to win ala Chang and other champions much greater than Chang?
     
    #27
  28. Rickson

    Rickson G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2004
    Messages:
    12,736
    Location:
    USA
    Susan, Susan, Susan. The votes are saying that the people feel Chang would win, but like you said, we'll never know.
     
    #28
  29. VamosRafa

    VamosRafa Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    May 3, 2004
    Messages:
    4,199
    Rickson, rickson, rickson, that's because many live in the past, and aren't quite ready to face the future. Or in the present, as it were. :D
     
    #29
  30. Shaolin

    Shaolin Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2004
    Messages:
    4,643
    Location:
    Kansas
    Rafa would win 47 /47 times against Chang. Average match time would be 47 minutes.
     
    #30
  31. yoga

    yoga Rookie

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2006
    Messages:
    169
    #31
  32. sandiegotennisboy

    sandiegotennisboy Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2004
    Messages:
    698
    you guys are crazy if you think that chang would have a winning record against nadal if both played each other at their peaks. i dont even think nadal has peaked yet. im a roger fan too so that sh1t says a lot. nadal beats chang on all departments, except the net game probably, which most likely wouldnt matter if they ever had a match up because it would be a baseline yo-yo for chang the whole time.
     
    #32
  33. Gundam

    Gundam Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2006
    Messages:
    410
    Huh? Have you actually seen Chang in action (especially in his prime)? I don't think so. :confused: What matches of him have you watched? Your Nadal's biceps are impressive but what about Chang's legs. And Chang was one of the smartest players.
     
    #33
  34. gooberwho

    gooberwho Rookie

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2005
    Messages:
    220
    as much as I like Chang, I think Nadal would simply bludgeon him in matches with his defense and shot-making. I voted 9-1 in favor of Nadal.

    and what the heck is American-Honge Konish? I think you were going for "Chinese American." And the territory's name is Hong Kong, which, by the way, has no relation to Chang's family; they're from Taiwan.
     
    #34

Share This Page