I´m starting to collect wood

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  1. Migelowsky

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    Hi, a friend who knows I like tennis gave me a Wilson Stan Smith Capri,
    and I really like the look and design of old rackets ,the same way I
    enjoy the art and looks of advertisement and product design from another
    eras.
    After that I went to the auction site and bought another 3, a Donnay Allwood light, another Donnay still with tags and plastic, but this one is a junior
    Donnay GLM 600 and a Dunlop Maxply Fort.
    I think the only one I will use on the court is the Dunlop, I went and tried it and I really like it, it forces me to watch the ball, prepare early and the truth is that I didn´t suck with it =)
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  2. Migelowsky

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    more pics

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  3. Migelowsky

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    last set, I don´t know if I´ll continue because I don´t want to get
    addicted, the only one that I really want is a Borg Pro =)

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  4. coachrick

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    Of course, the Fort and the Allwood Light were top tier rackets. The Capri series was not a bad 'department store' racket--all were sold pre-strung, I believe. The GLM stands for Graduated Length Method...a reference to a teaching style as well as many different brands of rackets that came in a graduated series of lengths, often 23"-25" and some 'junior' length-usually 26". Some were designated 'pee-wee', 'cadet' and 'junior' to show the different stages of length. Cool start to your collection. I'm afraid I have a couple dozen woods that are of little personal interest and will remain in a box instead of on display. Seems it is easy to find a 'lot' of rackets that include only one of interest and 2, 3 or more that aren't very exciting.
     
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    Thanks for the info (as always) coachrick
     
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  6. Virginia

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    Once you start collecting woods, it's a whole new ball game (pardon the pun). There are some wonderful racquets out there!

    I sort of specialise in "Lady" racquets and Davis racquets.

    P.S. My "piece de resistance" is a plastic on the handle Dunlop Lady Maxply, vying for top spot with a Gauthier "Madame".
     
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  7. Migelowsky

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    Thank you all , I was looking for information on that donnay and couldn´t find any, it amazing how much the people here know about rackets.
    I saw a fila borg, but this month I spend a lot on this my hobby, and hier on this site hehe, buying cloths and many more thing so I could´t make a bet on that fila.
    Another frames that I found interesting are the donnay lady wood, and the dunlop maxply mcenroe, also I found some fiberglass yamahas in very good condition.

    Thanks again =)
     
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  8. vsbabolat

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    Just wondering if you have a Donnay LadyWood?
     
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    You mentioned you were hitting with some of them (which I fully support).

    My word to you is that according to my Dad who used to play the Donnay Borg line back in the early 80s is that those puppies would crack the frame on overheads if you frame the ball on the top of the head.

    I wouldn't want you to lose a piece of history and a really cool racquet paint job. Everytime I see that Donnay I get sentimental about my dad coming home from matches and I would go through his tennis bag....
     
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    i wanted one then i wanted another one, and another one.... :)

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    Fantastic line up there Rick.
    Do you know anything about the Donnay Pro that is identical to these except that the word Borg is deleted?
    I have one of those and have not been able to determine if it was just an omission for contractual reasons ( though i think not, because Borg endorsed Donnay well into the 80's) or something else.
     
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  12. Mick

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    i don't know about the racquet but i got the bags for your racquet -- they all say donnay pro :D

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  13. Migelowsky

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    You are cruel :p, sell me one

    The other day at the courts I saw a kid with one, he didn´t know how
    to play and was just having fun with his friends. I asked him if he
    wanted to trade that old wood racket for a modern graphite pro kennex ,
    he seemed exited, I hope he doesn´t have a change of heart

    I won´t use those Donnay, just the dunlop maxply, I love the paint on the allwood, it´s kind of matte and seems to be very easy to scratch
     
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  14. Mick

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    haha. you should use the donnay if you get it. it's not as fragile as chip@chrge has said. on my picture, the one on the far right is the one that I would use to play matches. it is holding up just fine and i have been using it for a few years now, now and then that is because some players are too tough to play against with a wood racquet :)
     
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    You may find that the Wilson Capri has "Belgium" or "Made in Belgium" stamped on the inside of the shoulder or bow.
    Many of the Wilson rackets of that era were made by Donnay.
     
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    well that is something!
    thanks again
     
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  17. gavna

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    The original bags issued did say BORG PRO but after he walked away from the game Donnay removed the BORG and continued to sell them with just the PRO graphics.

    I just got my hands on some classic pro stock sticks: Rossingnol, Snauwert, Donnay....buddy got ahold of some of Jimmy Arias's Borg Pro's, Solomon's Stratos, tons of Tracy Austin's old sticks and even some of Gerulaitis's Sicks. All pro stock all never even strung!!!!!!
     
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    Yes, I do - can't imagine how I managed to overlook that beauty! :)
     
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  19. Mick

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    nice. i always prefer the unused/unstrung racquets whenever possible.
     
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  20. Mick

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    i am now into chris evert autographs :)

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    How can this kind of event happen in Year of Our Lord 2011?

    That's incredible. Wow! Millionaire's stash or something. . .
     
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  22. slice bh compliment

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    ^awsm!^

    OP, that Maxply is legendary. The other ones are cool, too, but man, hit with that Maxply for sure.
     
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    Also looks to be in excellent shape. Such a sweet stick.
     
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    Sitting in storage and warehouse - told me the lot had close to 400 sticks in it. Oddest ones are the Jan Kodes Snauwaerts with extra large lettering to better show up on TV. I had to have the Borg Pro - has the beefed up head
     
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    Wow! That would've been a major thrill to be the first one to walk into that cache!
     
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    Hey im looking for some donnay graphite/wood's (not the pro) any chance you came across any of those?? and or procynetic/pro one mids
     
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    AA, I recently scored a 'Horizon Mid'; graphite reinforced, open throat mid that appears very flexy. Black with 'Donnay' blue graphics, double handed black grip. I'm afraid the head is quite soft. Looks like it was used once and put in storage. Interesting stick. Donnay is a bit off my radar...my only other one is a 'Graphite Plus 25' mid(no wood, of course, 'all' graphite).
     
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    Some very nice collections there :)

    I think all Donnays are beautiful rackets. I have a Donnay Allwood that I have owned since I was 12 when they still sold them in shops and I'm loathe to use it anymore. I kept it in such good condition that now its just a wall decoration.

    Ive managed to pick up a few nice rackets recently; A nice Adidas woody (again, gorgeous rackets) but it has a couple of mm warpage so not sure how it would play.

    For playing I've just re-gripped a Maxply For Tournament Graphite. What a sweet beast it is. Hits the ball superbly and is surprising light to swing.
     
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  29. Player#1

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    I love to hit with the Borg Pro, Vilas and the Maxply Fort, but my favorite so far is the Jack Kramer Autographs. The unstrung frames are a whole new feel if you're used to ones that have gone soft.

    I was scared to use the Maxply Fort after my dad said he used to snap those in the throat pretty quick... But then again, he also used to have the graphite F-200s breaking on him after a couple of weeks.

    String them low and they should last a long time.
     
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    Hi =) I got some new racquets but they are not wood, I didn´t want to start another thread so I´ll post them here.
    All are in mint condition, the max 200g was $20 dlls , my coach saw it
    and bought it for me. The only "defect" is the metal on the cover, it´s rusted.
    Another is a Head Arthur Ashe Competition, I saw it on the action site and
    bought it for sentimental reasons, it was my first racquet , I got it on Christmas and I still remember the smell of new.
    The Prince Classic II was included with the Head.

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    I love the feeling of this racquets, I did hit with the arthur ashe and
    had a deja vu. When I was a kid I wanted the Max 200 G but was
    to expensive for me. I play a little today with it and I love the
    feel, normally a can´t play without a dampener but I liked the
    sound this one made, also the All wood has a very nice sound

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    I think the only one that I really would want to get is the Borg Pro,
    I hope I´ll get lucky and find a nice one.
    The other day I saw a Yamaha in very good condition but I was
    able to stop myself :p, I need another one of my real racquets ( Völkl
    Power Bridge 8 315 ) and shoes, maybe in another time.

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    Handsome dunlops.
     
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    New additions =) Borg Pro Midsize and Flex Pro

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    and next to my Allwood

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    The Flex Pro has a slot on the throat , I guess it was designed to make it
    more flexy, I tested it today and I like it a lot, I always use a
    dampener, but for some reason I like the sound this rackets make.

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    Mick,

    How does the Wilson Chris Evert Autograph play compared to a Jack Kramer Auto? I notice the wood from the base of the handle comes further up the shaft. Is it stiffer? I've read it's lighter (I'm guessing the "lights" are lighter than your average JK light). Any insight?

    thanks,
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  40. Mick

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    Hi Michael, To me, it feels softer and lighter than the Jack Kramer auto. It's easier to play with than both the Jack Kramer auto and Borg Pro. The Borg Pro is the most demanding of the 3 racquets.

    The cool about using the Chris Evert racquet after you have beaten your opponent, you could brag (in a friendly way) that it's not just a wood racquet but also women's wood racquet -- sounds like even more of a handicap but in reality not so at all :)
     
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    Too funny Mick! I think I'll have to pick one up just so I can use your line...after I win of course!

    And yeah, I picked up a Borg Pro (14.17oz strung). First time out hitting with it I couldn't stop laughing at the baseline. I felt like everything was in slow motion (swing-wise) and without much effort the ball was being drilled with a ton of pace to the other side. Really hard to prepare if you have little time. There's no whipping this one around Rafa style that's for sure. I may take it out again for another laugh soon. But I've been having fun with the lighter woods (when I say light, they're usually 13.10-13.35 strung with over grip). They end up being almost identical in weight to my usual stick... K90. Using mostly modern technique, although it's fun to feel the old tech. come into play on an approach, volley put away combo :)

    And there is nothing synthetic about the feel of the wood. You really feel the ball and where it's going. Playing with wood, I feel like my senses are all heightened. Man, I'd love to see the ATP pros play an exhibition with all wood (yeah, I've seen Sampras and a few others break one out). But it would be awesome to have an entire tournament with wood.
     
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    i bet if you gave Nadal a wood racquet to play with, in a short time he would figure out how to adjust his strokes to use it well. We are amateurs and could adapt to it, He's one of the all-time great players. It should be no problem for him, I have no doubts :)
     
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  43. OTMPut

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    i just bought a borg pro. played a league match with it. in love with it. looking to buy a couple more of them. pse sell them to me :)
     
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  44. Mick

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    You also need the clothes to go with the racquets :)

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    ^^
    ah man. i envy you.

    i dig those short shorts. they don't make them anymore.
     
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    Original or recent Chinese copy........??

    Fila re-issued a lot of these jackets but without the Bj logo.
    I have a cotton Settanta jacket with the Bj logo but that's a fake.
    Originally the jacket was a wool/poly or acrylic mix.
    This one in the picture looks like a cotton blend too..
    I've never seen the shorts as copies though, they look nice...:)
     
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    I totally agree. I've picked up so many wood racquets lately. The Maxply McEnroe, the Jack Kramer Prostaff, and I played around with the Maxply Fort as well (my stick from when I was a kid in the 70's). I can't get over how different the Maxply McEnroe is from the Prostaff. I mean, I know it's got fiberglass to stiffen it up. But, how John McEnroe jumped from the PS to Maxfort then Maxply McEnroe and continued to play at the same level blows me away. But then you think, well, he's one of the all time greats...

    I say bring the ATP wood exhibition on!
     
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    Awesome! Guys at my club are joking that my brother and I need to start dressing out of the 70's since we're playing with wood from the 70's. I just might do it!
     
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  49. Mick

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    they all say "made in italy", so i believe they are the originals.

    the ones i could not get the originals are the headbands, but the re-released headbands look quite similar to the originals, so it's alright.

    biggest difference is my strokes are more like Chris Evert/Tracy Austin than the tennis star from Sweden :)
     
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    That's okay Mick, you have the Evert racquet! Now all you need is a skirt and blouse :) Sorry, I just couldn't resist!!!
     
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