I´m starting to collect wood

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  1. Mick

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    haha. For me, it was more of a challenge to get into the condition to wear these form fitting clothing from the 70's than to buy them. I had to exercise for about a year before i managed to become fit enough to wear them :)
     
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    That's good motivation!! Hey, we all need something that motivates us, and now you're better off!

    On a serious note, I find the more conditioned I am (working out regularly for the past 6 years now), the more effortless and fun my tennis game is on a whole. I've always been on the light side but I had an office job in my 30's and everything went to pot! I was still thin but the muscles, ligaments and tendons just weren't there. Now I'm back on track and feel as though I'm in the best shape of my life.
     
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    haha. hey at least that's the right sports.

    The last time I wore those clothing, one guy had it right.
    he said "hey, I just saw you on the tennis channel"

    but later another woman told me
    "i like your Johnny Depp look" :shock: :)
     
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    the amazing thing about the top tennis players is that they all got a six pack abs, even Serena Williams.

    My boss is an iron man participant who is in top physical condition. One time i asked him if he had a six pack. He said no and he worked out a lot.
     
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    Too funny! I get the "Hey Federer" thing a lot...hey, I like wearing black Nike's and Nike clothing, but I"m not sponsored so I have to cough it up:(
     
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    I've got the plain navy Boast shorts and solid white polo for that look...even found some canvas(actually hemp) sneaks to wear ! ;)

    I could barely fit into the Fila and Tacchini stuff BACK THEN...I have NO chance now!

    How about an 'Aussie' hat to complete the look!!!
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    haha. whenever i take the Chris Evert racquet to the courts, i would be in Ellesse clothing. I think that's close enough :)
     
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    coachrick,
    I would pay serious money to have the volleying skills of Ruta :)
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    Ruta Gerulaitis (born 18 November 1955 ) is an American tennis player, born of Lithuanian parents, professional in the late 1970s and early 1980.

    In 1979 , she reached the quarterfinals at Roland Garros (beaten by Chris Evert ), after having successively taken out Chris O'Neil , Ilana Kloss and Betty Stove. This was her best performance in a single round of a Grand Slam .

    She is the younger sister of Vitas Gerulaitis .

    http://translate.google.com/transla...=http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruta_Gerulaitis
     
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    Good point! As I think about it, the quote might have been "SERVES like Ruta"...not that THAT would be any more PC. I'm sure she could have run my behind off the court, but I'll put my serve up against hers.:) Anyway...I'm just the messenger! ;)
     
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    Nice! Yeah, I had a couple of boast shirts. Totally forgot about them! And they still make Stan Smith's!
     
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    Back to the woods conversation: Mick, any idea of what your Chris Evert Autograph weighs? I just found one on the big auction site for $10 plus $9 in shipping...looks pretty clean. It's a "light" so I figure I could always add some lead in the butt cap and around the hoop to match my other Wilsons :)

    Played again this morning with the Maxplay McEnroe. The lighter version is definitely easier to work in the modern technique. But, I have to say so far my favorites are the Wilsons :) The lights with the right string really have a nice buttery feel reminiscent of the later PS85. To me, the Jack Kramer PS feels more like the PS85 than when compared to other manufacture's woods. How they recreated that feeling in the PS85 is beyond me, but it's there. I guess it's fitting that I like the PS wood as it's what I've become used to in the modern frames.

    Rally-wise my brother and I seem to be hitting the ball just as hard if not harder (on the flat shots) as we did with our modern frames. I also feel my 1hbh is coming through the contact zone more consistently clean than with the K90. I get more of those "AAAAAAHHHH" (angels singing) when I really let it rip than I do with the modern frame.

    Coming off a shoulder injury/self therapy the past year and half (now 100%), it's time to figure out the serve with the woods. Seems like it might be easier in some ways, but not sure if I can create the same pace. My Spring time goal so I can start playing matches :)

    Broke another set of strings today..it was nice to reach in a grab a matching frame :) Looking forward to trying out the Leonia 66 strings as others had mentioned on a separate post.
     
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    i don't have a weight machine, but the racquet label says 12 oz something, i believe. I've got to check it when i get home. if you can play well with wood, i recommend go back even older and get those 1920-30 racquets if the price is reasonable. The head sizes look odd but they play pretty much the same as the ones from the 70's.

    A while ago, someone had created a thread about how Bill Tilden would do against today's players. It inpired me to get a Wright & Ditson Big Bill Tilden racquet and try it out against some of my hitting buddies. i beat the guy 6-3 with it. (I remember the score because i had never used a racquet this old before). He got so mad and slammed his new Yonex racquet to the ground, then he wanted to try my racquet. I told him, no way. you might abuse mine and break it :)
     
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    Mick, your stories of wood vs. graphite matches are hilarious. Great answer to the agro guy too!

    What got us (my brother Brian and I) on the wood kick was back in February he spotted two Wright and Ditsons in a vintage thrift store in Jamaica Plain, MA (part of Boston). They were $3 each. He showed them to me that weekend and we couldn't wait to hit with them. Well, after about 5 minutes adjusting we started to really swing out. I broke strings on one of them that day so I took it home to string it. The next day it cracked when I was hitting a flying forehand. However, he's picked up a few others (all from the 20's-40's) and they are holding up excellent. One in the bunch had a rare 16 by 21 string pattern! There's a drill hole that goes through the throat to the other side so the mains start at the throat! Do you have any like this? The weight of this one was about 13.35 strung (a bit lighter than the other Wright and Ditsons). He thought it might be the one and he probably played the best tennis I've ever seen him play with it (that was today). The founders as you probably know were baseball players and they made equipment for various sports. Fitting because the wood is nice stiff and solid on those sticks..much like a baseball bat!
     
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    Nice! For me, my level doesn't drop very much when I use those vintage racquets, it must be the same for you and your brother too. But the cool thing is most players think that it would drop and then get a big surprise.

    Some years ago there's a story about Djokovic and other pro players trying out wood racquets and saying how tough it was to use them. I don't believe it. He must have been djoking. Kuznetsova said she could use them in match play :)
     
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    I know this is old, but the Stan Smith Capri was my first ever racket. I felt a little bit down about that, because my friends all sported JKA, ProStaff, Bancrofts, and Maxply...."real rackets". I tried to think it was really a JKA with different graphics. Moved from this to a real Stan Smith auto.


     
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  17. Mick

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    Hi Michael, I was wrong, there's no weight information on the CE racquets at all. Oops.
     
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  18. Mick

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    these are my "unreal racquets," i don't think any pro ever used them but i like the brand name and paint job :)

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    Don't know why I'm just now finding this thread. I have probably 35-40 woodies at this point. Here's a small sample that I posted a year ago.

    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=4295278&postcount=1350

    My prized possessions include a beautiful Pancho that's in great condition, T2000/T3000 combo, a practically new Dunlop Ohka, and my favorite the Borg Donnay.
     
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    The Fila woods are really well made and tour level hitters. Fila did sponsor many players and I have a friend that was sponsored by Fila and still has a stock of new models.
     
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    My find today. Pro Kennex Golden Ace Boron with Jose Luis Clerc signature. Strung with gut. One small chip lower on the face on one side, one in the throat area, and two more at the head on one side. None are more than 1/4". 358 grams in an L5 grip size.

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  23. slice bh compliment

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    ^I want to go to there^
    One of the finest open-throated wooden frames ever.
     
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    I was suposed to stop buying rackets after I found the Borg Pro, but I also got the Flex Pro, now , you are tempting me, go away Satan :evil:
     
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    These are sweet! Anyone know how they play?
     
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    No problem, mine will be here next week. It's a light...I'll weigh it when I get it.
     
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    Yeah, if anything my strokes are cleaner...I suppose it makes sense: the smaller the head size = the more control. If you're connecting with the sweet spot most of the time anyway, then you're really rewarded with the wood. Some of the angles you can get on approaches and volleys is pretty insane.

    Again, I grew up with wood, but it's been way too long since I've played with them (roughly 30 years). Implementing modern technique with the majority of these woods is truly amazing and rewarding. That "tennis high" (like runners high) is at a whole new level...I can't get enough of this!!! (apologies to the wife but hey, I'm staying in shape and I'm pretty happy)
     
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  29. Mick

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    I saw this movie, "The Black Dahlia" (directed by Brian De Palma). In it, there's a scene where this lady says collectors provide great services to the public by preserving artifacts for future generation to enjoy.
    I am just a racquet collector :)
     
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  30. Mick

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    Nice!
    This afternoon, I played not with graphite or wood but with steel :)

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    Sweet! How does that compare to the T2000? A hall of famer at our club promised us he'd bring in some wood a couple weeks back. He ended up brining in 2, T2000's. Great pace and control, with a little bit of vibration (metal touching metal). My dad had one when we were kids...I think it was mandatory for every US tennis family to have at least one in the garage! I think I'll need to pick one up soon.

    Today I was hitting outside for the first time in a while. I was downwind (and it was WINDY), and for some reason I didn't sleep last night. So, after about an hour I finally broke down and got into the 80's with my St. Vincent PS 85...all of a sudden all of balls were on the other side of the court :)
     
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    i have never played with the T-2000 but a co-worker of mine told me the T-3000 was more stable and easier to use (than the T-2000).

    What you said is true, whenever i use the T-3000, older players would tell me, "hey i used to play with that racquet." :)
     
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    here's my Big Bill Tilden racquet :)
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    If coming from a 'modern' racket, most people couldn't tell any difference between the 2 and 3000. They are very similar; but, the 3000 has the throat bridge that reduces twisting somewhat. Hit dead center flat and you likely could never feel a difference. There was a rumor that the tubes of the 3000 were actually stiffer, but 'we' never thought that. If the throat piece actually held, the 3000 'might' have been just a touch more dependable in the long run--owing to the increased stability afforded by the brace. They were ALL squeaky...just a matter of how much squeak! ;)
     
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    Thanks for the insight. Makes sense that the bridge would reduce twisting on off center shots.
     
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    Open throat! I dig it! My brother's are all more modern (mid 40's-50's). I'll take a picture sometime.

    I played with the Chris Evert today and really liked it! I didn't feel too much flex (like you'd feel on a Donny Allwood). I did notice that the hoop is thinner, and the beam is wider. I weighed it at 12.99 w/o over grip and 13.14 with...pretty much the exact same weight as the Jack Kramer Prostaffs I have, but it's definitely more headlight and easier to whip. I had fun on the backhand side cross court with it :)

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    Look what you made me do with all the threads about the t-2000 t-3000:

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    :shock: :)

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    only because I idolize Jimmy Connors :)

    i used the t-2000, tried to play like him and a few of my hitting partners thought I was trying to imitate John McEnroe :shock:
     
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    New arrivals, was surfing the auction site and i found the Snauwert on sell in brand new conditions unstringed, well I've to say that this racket is like an anchor reminding my first tennis teacher who was an enthusiast of Snauwaert and using this racket as well as the caravelle or the other Brian Gottfried, price was excellent and well "buy it now" button is often in danger with me, and then surfing more i found this 2 yamaha 55 and for the price they were sold, well I could not resist ahhahahaha.

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    And these are the Yamaha 55, with plastic on the handle, I do not know this rackets, but they look good, and the handcraft is nice as well. This rackets as well will be hanged on the wall, I do not want to damage a brand new wood racket, I have other used one to play with.
    The funny thing is that my wife ask me why i took you my woods, she lost completely track of how many rackets i have ahhahahahhaah.

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  43. Hannah19

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    Got them from an italian guy?
     
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    Yep. An ok person. And his shop is super dangerous for me. I've always to pay attention not
    to push buy it now.
     
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    I know what you mean.....:)

    A few weeks ago I bought 10 Yamaha's of him. Both 33's and 55's. My guess is that he strung them himself with left over stringsets.
     
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    I did not ask him to string them, to me the strings look as the original ones, fortunately the rackets are stringed low, and well preserved so no warps at all.

    Snauwaert was unstringed and so will stay.

    10 Rackets wow, you got the superoffer :) I resisted that :) heheheheh, well if you play the yamaha let me know how those babies do, so maybe i could be tempted to string one and ...... :)

    Anyhow I guess they will not play like not play like the Bancroft Borg professional, my favorite wood, I've just to change the strings now, will go again natural at 21, and use it time to time for a vintage matches.
     
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    I have several YWG 55's in my racket bag and play them regularly. Their workmanship is not only noticable on the outside, they play very solid.
    The YWG's I got were strung with either a rainbow, pink or orange coloured
    string. Originally it was sold unstrung, just like your Brian Gottfried.
     
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    Sorry for the out of topic, Hannah19 I see you are Dutch, from wich town? Me i'm not Dutch but Im living in Leiden.
     
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    16 km distance from you...:)
    Rijnsaterwoude near Alphen a/d Rijn on the Braassemermeer.

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    Contact me and feel free to pay me a visit.
     
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    kk your collection deserves for sure to be admired :)
     

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