I caught a Black Widow Spider

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  1. TENNIS_IS_FUN

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    My dad was cleaning the garage with a hose when a black widow spider was being swept away by the water. I caught it and put it in my unused case (used to hold frogs and such). I want to keep it as a pet, but have no idea on how to raise it. Google has failed me.

    What do i feed it? How should i create a good habitat for it?
     
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  2. Tallahassee_Technifibre

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    Kill it period. It will eventually kill YOU.
     
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    LOL@that.

    You should start a metal band.
     
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  4. mdrew9

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    You want to keep it as a pet? Lol how old are you?
     
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  5. Shaolin

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    Listen to this advice. Either kill it or it will escape and F**k you up.
     
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    feed it 1 insect a week. or 2 to 3 ants a week. depends on how big it is. picture?
     
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  7. CAM178

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    Don't let this be you:

    Mark Voegel, 30, was found dead in his Dortmund, Germany apartment. His body was d r a p e d in spider webs and more than 200 spiders, several snakes, thousands of termites, and a gecko were feasting on his corpse.
    Proper authorities were alerted when concerned neighbours noticed a horrendous stench eminating from the apartment.

    His black widow, Bettina, is believed to have administered the deadly bite.

    Voeger's apartment has been described as both a "zoo" and a "jungle" by authorities. He never let people visit.

    A police spokesman said: “It was like a horror movie. His corpse was over the sofa. Giant webs d r a p e d him, spiders were all over him. They were coming out of his nose and his mouth. There was everything there one could imagine in the world of reptiles. Larger pieces of flesh torn off by the lizards were scooped up and taken back to the webs of tarantulas and other bird-eating spiders.”

    The spiders and termites managed to escape when the heating elements exploded and opened the lids to their tanks.

    The lizards were allowed to roam.

    Voegel also kept a pet boa constricter and several poisonous frogs.

    He was dead for somewhere between seven and fourteen days when his corpse was found. Enough time for the creepy-crawlies to make a new home out of his apartment.
     
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  8. DizBoiDanny

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    yeah show us pictures. or just kill it.
     
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  9. scotus

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    Was this article translated from German by a computer software?

    It seems to me that the bolded portion should probably say "other spiders that were feeding on Voegel" rather than "bird-eating spiders".

    Voegel, of course, means "birds".
     
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  10. Headshotterer

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    wow thats nasty :shock:
     
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    He hasn't responded yet.









    Poor guy.
     
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  12. edberg505

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    The black widow's venom is a neurotoxin and affects a person's CNS. But contrary to what most people believe. A bite from a black widow is not an automatic death sentence. The severity of the reaction depends on the age and the physical condition of the person bitten. Most often it is the elderly and young children that are seriously affect by the bite. I see them around the outside of my house all the time. I leave them alone because they very rarely venture from their little corners and crevices. Now I am quite terrifed of brown recluse spiders. Their venom is a necrotoxin and basically destroys the tissue around where the bite occured.
     
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    I hate it when that happens.
     
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    It's either kill or be killed. If that spider ever escaped it would poison you and wrap you into a cocoon without mercy.

    I know a woman who took her pet tarantula for a walk every morning with a long piece of string.
     
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  15. superstition

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    Black widows don't feed on people. They're too small and evolved to feed on insects. However, their bite is deadly.
     
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  16. kekeketennis

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    Uhhh, you could try mealworms? Or crickets? Heat lamp too. Available at your local pet depot...

    Why are you gonna organize some spider fights or something? You can challenge Gilbert the Brazilian Wandering Spider (Current World Champ (56-2-0))

    Yeah you should probably kill it.
     
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  17. superstition

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    It may be illegal to keep them as pets in some municipalities.
     
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  19. Oui c'est moi.

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    Hiding in your house like a parasite?

    Sheesh, is this what coke did to Hingis?
     
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  20. 10sfreak

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    Actually, there are spiders that trap and eat birds, so the article may actually have it right.
     
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  21. scotus

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    I had no idea that such spiders existed. Well, you learn something everyday.
     
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  22. Mansewerz

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    It's okay guys, the Black widow is one of few deadly venomous spiders, and the Black widow has an antivenom.
     
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  23. TENNIS_IS_FUN

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    It's not that big a deal guys -_- Here in So Cal there are black widows EVERYWHERE and I always see them around, although I decided to keep this one since my dad was flushing it away w/ the hose. I bought some crickets at the local pet store (amazingly cheap) and put one in. There was some fighting and the spider is beginning to make a web at the top of the container. It doesnt seem to be eating the cricket though. With its legs stretched out, the spider is about 1.25 inches big, and the cricket is about an inch.
     
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  24. dave333

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    There are spiders taht eat birds.[​IMG]

    Scary, no?
     
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    When I was a kid, I lived in So Cal also, and in the 3rd grade I brought one to school for Show and Tell, along with the sack of eggs in a glass Mason jar. I punched holes in the lid with an ice pick so that the Black Widow could breathe. Well, over the next weekend the eggs hatched and there were little white spiders hanging by their webs everywhere! The class had to be closed off and fumigated. I got a good talking to, but nothing else. I would hate to see what would happen to a kid who did something like that today.

    Also, ALL spiders are venomous, but just a few can bite hard enough to penetrate human skin. I used to play with Daddy Long legs all the time until I heard their venom was stronger than the Black Widow's, they just cannot bite though our skin.

    One last thing....Spiders are our main defense against insects, so I just move them to a safe location, when appropriate. The average field spider consumes a huge amount of insects.
     
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    I was watching a show the other day on the biggest spider on earth and they said it was the only spider big enough to bite(it was about a square foot). They said it wasn't so much that spiders can't penitrate but that their jaws arn't big enough to open.

    Deaths in healthy adults from Latrodectus bites are relatively rare in terms of the number of bites per thousand people. Sixty-three deaths were reported in the United States between 1950 and 1990.

    this is about the black widow.
     
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  27. WildVolley

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    Black Widows are very common in California. I caught a big fat one and put it in a plastic container with holes in the lid for air. I didn't know what to feed it and eventually smashed it. I threw a fly in and a little moisture, and the spider seemed to be healthy for well over a week.

    There's a family in California that provides the venom for making the Black Widow anti-venom. Their basement is filled with racks of black widows in plastic containers. So they definitely are good at raising them.

    The show had video of the children in the family "milking" the black widows by picking them up with things like long tweezers and then having them bite into a container while looking under a microscope. Very little venom comes out, so it is definitely powerful stuff.
     
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  28. Freedom

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    I just smashed a spider with a picture frame before finding this thread.
     
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  29. AznRamenDude

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    I got some advices: I found a black widow on my front doorstep on the way home last year. I went inside. Got a slipper. Killed it. TRUST ME, kill the thing before it kills you.









    PS: you are still currently alive and in a stable condtion right...? hello...?
     
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  30. Snuh

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    Black Widows are nasty *** creatures. Only thing around here nastier is the brown recluse. You dont want that thing biting you cause after you figure out what kind of bite you have its already too much time.
     
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  31. TENNIS_IS_FUN

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    I'm assuming everyone that says 'kill the creature before it kills you' is not from california? I mean...they're so freaking common here its not that big a deal. Yes their labeled as being this extremely venomous spider, but it is a very passive creature that RARELY attacks humans. BTW it caught the cricket i put in and its AMAZING . Everyone go capture a venomous spider today.
     
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    Why don't you find other little spiders and see how they react with each other. :twisted:
     
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    just give it glass of milk, does not matter if its 1%, 2%, whole milk, or simply water, just give it a whole glass of it, that will do it :twisted:
     
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  34. superman1

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    They feed on blood mainly. Just stick a finger in there and let Leggy take a few drops. Then scratch his stomach - they like that.
     
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    Couple of things as to the above posters:

    1. The article was from Reuters from a couple of years ago. This is a condensed version of the article. What this condensed version didn't show were a few things of interest:
    - many police officers, upon entering the scene, threw up at the sight of the corpse, the animals feeding on it, the stench, and the spider webs
    - one police officer began crying
    - several police officers quit the force that day, with most seeking psychological treatment from the force
    Note that the fatal bite was adminstered by his pet black widow.

    2. Brown recluse bites aren't that bad. I was bitten once in college, and it wasn't all that bad. There were girls in nearby sorority houses who were bitten, and one girl was bitten twice over a period of 3 weeks. She had to seek treatment, but overall it wasn't that bad. A bite from a black widow is said to be far worse. The recluse bite hurts, kind of like a big splinter. It all depends on the person, and how they react to pain and poison.

    Anybody who chooses to have an arachnid or reptile as a pet is taking their life, and the lives of their families and pets, at complete risk. I appreciate all animals, but some animals need to be admired from afar. Reptiles and arachnids have pre-programmed brains, and nothing is going to tame them into being like a dog.
     
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  36. 10sfreak

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    We've got black widow spiders on our courts here in Georgia. They make their nests on the fences between courts, and they've been found on the bottom of the benches where we sit. Kinda odd, as I thought black widows liked dark, damp places to hang out...
    Also, speaking of "black widow spiders", how come "fedace" and "teyko" aren't in this thread calling us all a bunch of racists?:)
     
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  37. Loco4Tennis

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    seriouly speaking, i agree with CAM178, leave this thing alone
    if you really like the look of it, take a couple of pictures for yourself, go to kinkos and have them print you out a poster of the picture, and let this thing go in the woods somewhere, you'll live longer that way
     
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    The OP Is Dead!!!
     
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    LOL :lol:

    10 char.
     
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    hahhaha, classic response. it sounds fake. how did spiders lift the lids to their cages. hogwash if you ask me
     
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  41. superstition

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    I think there's a hypothesis in Evolutionary Psychology that humans possess an innate fear of spiders because we evolved from small mammals that large spiders (now extinct) used to trap and eat.

    Of course, the more modern explanation is also just that they're poisonous and you can die if some of them bite you.
     
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    i would not go back that far, to the time of "small mamals",

    just going as far back as when you were in school and had to get your shots at the nurses office is enough, with a bitter-sweet (popsicle) surprice at the end, :)
    the fear is the same, but unlike the nurses office, the surprice seems to be more bitter than sweet,
    you still get the joy of the sting when bite by a spider,
    the surprise at the end depends if you are super fit or not,
    if you are, surprise!! you are alive,
    if not, oh no!!, you've been biten,,, now u-dead :shock:
     
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  44. the wise wizard

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    just because its common doesnt mean its not deadly, im not saying it will definitely bite but if it does..........well i think you know
     
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    seriously, don't do it, dude. It's not a matter of if it will escape but when. I got bit by a black widow last summer and it is definitely not fun.
     
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  46. Loco4Tennis

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    ahhh. you have to give details on this,
    my brother almost got bit by one in the neck,
    he hung his golf clubs on his shoulders while walking, the spider must have crwled in there, but came out and was crawling on his neck, he felt it and brushed it to the floor before he knew what it was, he then stomped it out, but i got to see that it was a black widow right before that, lucky for him!!

    soo, how about your story:
     
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  47. edberg505

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    Oh? And you're still alive?
     
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    I got bit on my thigh (don't go cleaning the garage in boxers) and it really didn't hurt that bad at first. My leg just felt sore but muscles started cramping a bit and this moved into my abdomen and the cramps got really bad. My heart rate was crazy high and I was sweating like a madman. Eventually ended up getting very nauseous and puked all over my front yard. This lasted probably about 4-5 hours or so then subsided. The bite for the next few days though looked pretty nasty. It was about the size of a half dollar and completely black and itched like crazy.
     
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  49. Shaolin

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    My dad got bitten by a black widow and had to be in the hospital for a while (got bit on his face).

    I was bitten by a brown recluse in Kansas 8 years ago. I still feel effects from it where I was bitten. Be careful of these if you live in the mid west. I put glue traps down in my moms basement after I got bit and it caught literally dozens of spiders, many were brown recluses.

    Spiders are evil creatures and should be killed at any opportunity. The only ones I dont kill are the ones that just make a web and just chill there. I also dont kill jumping spiders because they just look so cool, and they make hilarious little turning movements when you get up close to them.
     
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  50. Loco4Tennis

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    there was this movie i just saw, i forget the name, but this guy had a spider farm and collected like several types, as you can imagine, he got bite one day and died, and ofcourse when he was falling he knocked over the shelf that had all the spider jars, he had all types, from jumping ones to spiding spiders and horn spiders, a whole lot, anyways, the water got contaminated with radio active chemicals and the spiders grew as big as houses, then they started attacking the humans on the town near by
    what was really inetersting was the way they would each attack or eat
    their was these spiders that make a house on the ground and or trap door, and then lunge out of the hole when they sense pray near by
    i'll try to find the name of the movie, very good scifi movie to learn about spiders, on a worst case cenario :)
     
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