"I don't even have a day off."

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  1. rafan

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    Oh for heaven sake . The players have to accept that this is the situation - whether they like it or not. The finals are always like this at the end of the year.
     
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  2. tipsa...don'tlikehim!

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    Thanks for that mate!!

    Fed has ALWAYS be favoured in the past, i don't see why he would complain now.
     
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  3. Gonzalito17

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    Federer can make any dang subtle seed-planting excuses he wants! His fans will pick up en masse on the cue and say after the match today he lost to Nadal because he was "tired."
     
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    Yeah, looks who talking
     
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    Toni's new device

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    No, I don't think he did. How about you post the quote.
     
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  7. rainingaces

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    In the Greeks day this would be considered indoor clay.
     
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    Maybe that why he is complaining ;)
     
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  10. tipsa...don'tlikehim!

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    probably :)
     
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  11. Chico

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    This proved to be crucial. Federer didn't have enough time to rest and was not able to perform up to par vs Nadal.
     
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    It wouldn't have mattered. Nadal is just a nightmare on court for Federer. Rest wouldn't have done much.
     
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  13. jhhachamp

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    It made no difference at all. Nadal is just simply a better player than Federer on any surface at this point in their careers. Nadal was clearly the superior player today and rest had nothing to do with it. I say this as a huge Federer fan. You have to be able to admit when the other player is just better and not make excuses.
     
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  14. dh003i

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    And I suppose the courts being slowed down and bouncing higher, which favors Nadals game, has nothing to do with it?

    Yes, this has been Federer's worst year since winning a major, but the match would have been different if the tournaments didn't keep screwing up the courts.

    Federer should just threaten to retire unless they fix the court speeds. It would force the tournaments to realize that fans want to watch talented players and shot-making, not endless rallies.

    Nadal whined to the high heavens about the blue clay, and low and behold they changed it. Maybe there is a lesson to be learned there.
     
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  15. dh003i

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    It would be beneficial to tennis if Federer organised a strike of the players who rely more on shot-making than rallying. We already have 1/3rd of the season on clay, a grass-court season that is essentially only one tournament and should be expanded (not to mention grass that has been ruined), and hard-courts all over that have been slowed down. Now the WTF surface has been ruined too.

    Lets see how popular tennis would be if players like Federer, Tsonga, Del Potro weren't around, and fans had to settle for whiplash-enducing endless rallies between players like Nadal and Djokovic for hours and hours.
     
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  16. Murrayfan31

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    Someone is bitter.
     
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  17. Murrayfan31

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    Yep. Fed is no Djokovic. That's for sure. Nadal loves playing Federer and hates playing Djokovic.
     
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    It is funny that Pete answered your question before retiring & beating all of those guys ( despite poor scheduling - yeah he got a break after semi , but he preffered night-USO matches , till finals his scheduling was pretty harsh at 2002USO ) - He won that, so please stop dragging Pete's name in whenever possible.

    90's clay didn't give or asked you to refrain from excuses about Roger, I Love Roger & wanted him to win this WTF dearly since if he did so - He'd probably have had enough confidence to start next year positively. I was very surprised to see the match scheduled as 1st-semi , it was definitely a bad-scheduling for Roger, but please Pete & Roger are different beasts - I have accepted that , why can't You ? Pete for his age & athleticism - was great at the end of his career , I'm sure if you undertand tennis & tennis-conditions you'd agree that if ( and that's a BIG IF ) Pete continued to play 2-more years like Roger He would win atleast 2-more fast court slams , Yes those two years Pete would have been miserable in masters tourney's & lesser surfaces - but he had that magic-run capability that Roger is solely lacking at the end of his career. I am still not counting out Roger ( I still believe he can win 2 more slams - Yes, I'm crazy ) , but at the same age Pete's mentality and game gave him better edge over Roger in slams/year-end tourney's.

    I find it a mark of greatness that still now Pete is dragged into these conversations after all these years because no matter how hard you try to prove w/consistency-stats & all other arguments , Old-Pete is the measuring stick old-Roger has so far failed to live up to.
     
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    No he didn't. He was asked about and this was his reply.

    Q. You have to play again in 24 hours against someone who has had an extra day off. How do you think that will factor into the match?

    RAFAEL NADAL: No, I would love to have one day off today because at the end I didn't have a lot of time to prepare this tournament.
    Is always great when you win a match, then have a day off to confirm the feelings, to keep doing the things that you need to keep playing well.
    But the tournament decide that is the other part of the draw, that they have the day off. So talking about physically, no, that's not going to affect for tomorrow. I didn't have very demanding physically match today. So I hope that will be 100% for tomorrow physically.
    But talking about tennis, I would prefer to have one more day off. But that's what it is, and nothing. One or another group had to play this way. Was my one. Accept and try to play my best tomorrow.

    He says, Yes of course it's nice to have a day off, but it cannot be said that he complained about it.
     
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  20. smash hit

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    To true. I believe Federer hit some winners in the first set. Djokovic didn't hit one winning shot until the last game of the first set.
     
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  21. jhhachamp

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    Court speed and bounces can favor one player over another, but at this point, I think Nadal can beat Federer head to head on any surface. Even in Federer's peak years, Nadal was just a difficult matchup for him, although he could still have success on some surfaces. Now that he is far off from his prime, he needs the surface to favor him to even have a chance.

    As far as the surface at this particular tournament is concerned, I have not seen any unbiased evidence regarding the speed or bounce, so I am not interested in discussing it.

    As a fellow Federer fan, I feel embarrassed by this sour grapes post. Federer does not need you to make excuses for him. He simply lost to a better player today, but has still had an amazing career.

    This is one of the worst ideas I have ever heard. Thankfully, Federer actually has some class and would never do such a thing.
     
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  22. jhhachamp

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    I agree with your assessment of the quote. Reading comprehension does not appear to be Agassifan's best skill set.
     
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  23. pound cat

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    It's not as if this was a slam and they might have to play 5 sets. Any player who can't play at the most 3 sets, two days in a row should get into better shape.
     
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  24. Chico

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    But Nadal didn't have to do that. He had a full day off to recuperate.
    The point here is why do Ferderer (and of course Djokovic) has to get in shape, but Nadal does not, since he always gets an easy schedule with plenty of breaks.

    It is not equal playing field for everyone.
     
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  25. Steve0904

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    What are you talking about? Federer won a major just last year at basically the same age as Sampras at the 02 USO. Had one of his better seasons and got back to #1.

    I fail to see how "Old Roger" has failed to live up to "Old Pete".

    Sampras is an all time great player. I like him, but users like 90's clay are the reason people bring up Sampras in derogatory terms. It's the easiest way to shut him up. He's a bitter Sampras fan who's chanelling his rage at Federer surpassing Sampras in the form of Nadal.

    Example yesterday when he droned on and on about Federer losing to the ZERO Nadal on indoor HC in the match thread, yet Sampras has losses to many players worse than Nadal on indoor HC. Kuerten, Correjta, and Rosset to name a few. And you know what the funniest part about it was? He never responded to the posts where people pointed out Sampras's much more embarrassing losses.

    And what you said about Sampras winning 2 more fast court slams if he kept playing is pure conjecture. By that token I could say that if the courts were faster these days, Federer would win more fast court slams.
     
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  26. HoyaPride

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    You're just a Nadal fan in disguise.:mad:
     
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  27. Chico

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    Sorry but you placed Djokovic in a wrong camp. Djokovic is an offensive minded shotmaker who happens to play a great defense as well.
    Much better shotmaker than Del Potro or Tsonga for that matter.
     
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  28. jhhachamp

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    That is absolutely not true. I am rooting for him to beat Djokovic today though.
     
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    Federer's forehand in combination with Nadal's "brain", not the exclusively attacked backhand by Nadal or the lack of rest, lost him the match.
     
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  30. Omega_7000

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    Funny I never see you complain about this... :roll:

    Nadal: Playing the Masters Cup every year on indoor hard is not fair

    ''is something that is I feel that I am very unlucky, that all the Masters Cup that I played was in indoor hard. Is a tougher surface for me to play well. Is not the day to say, but is something that I feel that is not fair.

    http://www.usopen.org/en_US/news/interviews/2013-09-09/201309101378782609450.html

    Rafael Nadal calls French Open scheduling ‘a joke’

    http://tennis.si.com/2013/05/31/rafael-nadal-french-open-scheduling/

    Nadal Renews Criticism of Hardcourt Schedule

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/14/sports/tennis/nadal-renews-criticism-of-hardcourt-schedule.html

    Rafael Nadal has started to make too many complaints

    After this episode, tennis fans have realized that Nadal has started to complain too much. Nadal’s critics often say that the Spaniard whines all the time. The 26-year-old has problem with too many hard court tournaments, he has issues with the ranking system, he has concerns about too long season. He was by far the biggest criticizer of the blue clay courts at Madrid last year, even threatening to boycott the event in future.

    http://www.tennisworldusa.org/Rafae...o-make-too-many-complaints-articolo10310.html
     
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  31. Omega_7000

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    LMAO! :lol:
     
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  32. Omega_7000

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    But yes. I'm disappointed in Federer...This sounds like an excuse.
     
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    "I choose to play"
    I wish they would stop asking Federer these retirement questions. They could harangue him out of the game before he really wants to go, and that is not fair on him. If he wants to play, he should be respected enough that he can do so without these harpies around him.
     
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    I know. It's ridiculous, but it's the media driven legacy is everything world that we live in these days. It's sad, but it's the truth.
     
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