I got rhythm. Who could ask for anything more?

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  1. Littlemissball

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    Question for you. I played with three 3.5s recently and am a 3.0. They were amazing. I know they are more athletic, have a lot of air time on the courts and can make winning shots and have beautiful placement and less unforced errors, but it is also something else. There is some kind of coordination and innate thinking out there that they do that I cannot do. They have some kind of fluidity in their movement. What is it? Roger Federer calls it playing with rhythm and confidence. What would you call it? I am thinking so hard out there and you can see my wheels and gears in motion. lol

    Best, LMB.
     
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  2. mykoh

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    well you said it yourself, you're thinking too hard. so.. think less, feel more.

    be water my friend.
    (easier said than done though..)
     
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  3. IA-SteveB

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    As Bruce Lee said:

    “Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.”
     
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  4. NLBwell

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    I'd call it more hours of playing tennis.
     
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  6. texacali

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    I am a 3.5 and I think the same of 4.0's
     
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  7. mmk

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    I'm a 3.5 and think I just need more playing time against 4.0s
     
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  8. texacali

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    Same here.

     
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  9. IA-SteveB

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    I can say for me, it is one thing to read official descriptions of NTRP ratings and it is quite another to realize the differences after playing. The gap between players even .5 apart is amazing.
     
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  10. dizzlmcwizzl

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    The USTA has published in the past that the expected result for players a full 0.5 points apart should usually be about 6-0, 6-0 or 6-0, 6-1. That often seems like an even bigger gap ...
     
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  11. michael_1265

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    I'm a 3.5. Come watch me play. You will realize your assumption that 3.5s have some sort of zen-like grace is incorrect:? Just ask AngleQueen, another forum member who I have played with.

    Just relax and hit the ball. You need a lot of repetition to get a feel for where you will need to set up and where your contact point will be. Take an occasional lesson to keep keep the kinks out of your swing. Most of all, stay off your heels! Keep those feet moving, and the rest will take care of itself.

    I find that if I can get some sort of rhythmic song into my head while playing, I play much better. There is a scientific basis to this method. The prefrontal cortex (PFC) is the part of the brain that is involved in complex thoughts and judgments, and you want to keep it out of your tennis swing, for the most part. Having the PFC engaged during a point is kind of like making change for a dollar with the assistance of a cost accountant; it just makes things unnecessarily complicated. Music occupies the PFC, keeping it out of the simple business of executing a tennis shot, which is conducted by the parts of the brain that are evolved for physical performance, and tend not to make a mess of things. So, find a song that works for you, and keep it playing in your head.
     
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  12. IA-SteveB

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    I would have expected the scores to be a little closer than that, but I can certainly see it now. When I first started playing again in March, I didn't even know what ratings were. My friend, who was #1 on our high school team and has played a lot ever since is a 4.5, so I felt like if he was that there is no way I am only 1.0 behind him. He is an amazing player and it illustrates for me how far apart .5 really is. :)
     
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    Suggested songs to play in your head.....

    If you are a pusher type player - "I'm Your Pusherman", by Curtis Mayfield

    If you like to hit moon balls - "Moondance", by Van Morrison

    If you hit hard - "We Will Rock You", by Queen

    If you are a spinmeister - "Spinning Wheel", by Blood, Sweat and Tears

    If you are new, or not sure of your style - "Dazed and Confused", by Led Zepplin

    If you like to play mind games with your opponent - "Mind Games", by John Lennon

    If you play with a chip on your shoulder - "Angry Again", by Megadeth

    If you like the social part of the game - "MMX-The Social Song", by ENIGMA... or maybe you should sing out loud with your team-mates

    If you like to cheat to win - "Before He Cheats", by Carrie Underwood

    If you have too much time to waste at work typing on tennis message boards - "Too much time on my hands", by Styx.... I'm singing it now....:)
     
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  14. OrangePower

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    ^^^^^
    Don't forget: if you are playing mixed - "Mistress for Christmas", by AC/DC
     
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  15. t135

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    3.5's have a long way to go before they can be put on a pedestal and admired from afar. They may seem remarkable to you if you are a 3.0 but unless you aren't very athletic in general, there probably isn't too much difference between you and them.

    Sounded like you were describing 4.5 or higher levels to me. Take some lessons and improve your game. It's easy to catch up at low levels like that.
     
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  16. slowfox

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    One coach once said to me, "Footwork is first. The stroke is last. Footwork first." The more I apply his advice, the more I improve. To me, rhythm equates footwork.
     
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    Or, if you make it to nationals, The Sandbaggers Theme Song

    Beck's "Loser" has a nice rhythm, but I can't imagine winning anything with that song in my head.
     
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  18. Govnor

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    All comes down to muscle memory and confidence, like any skill sport.
     
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  19. Mongolmike

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    I'm not familiar with the song or the show... I did a quick google to see that it is a Brit show about the cold war spies.... what does the term "sandbaggers" have to do with spies? I'm not familiar with using that word in that connection.
     
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  20. NLBwell

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    When I'm play tennis badly
    Sometimes I feel like I've been tied to the Whipping Post.
     
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  21. TeflonTom

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    yup. players who have better rhythm n coordination r generally the ones with good footwork

    most rec players dont work hard enough to get into best position and hold form through the shot. they just do enough 2 get 2 the ball. therefore they only hit their best shots sometimes - when they do remember to work 2 get into position, or when the ball is hit straight 2 them. the rest of the time their stroke is some degree o sub-optimum

    when u r on the court concentrate on gettin up on ur toes and working hard 2 get into the best position for every single ball. u will find that ur rhythm improves, because u will be stringing together more n more of ur best shots
     
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  22. TomT

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    Totally agree. I found that after 40 years away from the game I had gotten a bit, uh, lazy. The more I consciously concentrate on good footwork and good preparation, the more it seems to be happening automatically (rhythmically), and the more likely I am to hit a good shot. I agree that this has to be done on every single ball if one is to improve.
     
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