I guess the 1HBH is superior after all.

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  1. Golden Retriever

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    I mean Federer did make the final. He probably wouldn't if he used a 2HBH. His 1HBH didn't break down, he just didn't know how to use it right. If he sliced more to Nadal's weak 2HBH, he would have crushed him. I mean, everybody knows 2HBH can't handle low skidding slices, not even for the pros. The 1HBH rules and Roger should retire for having such a huge advantage and still loses.

    BTW, Nadal probably could have been the GOAT if he had a 1HBH.

    Sorry couldn't resist.
     
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  2. sureshs

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    Agassi with a 2 H BH is the only man to have won all four slams on modern surfaces.

    Not Sampras or Federer with a 1 H.
     
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    Nadal has a weak backhand?
    Well... that's new.... :roll:
     
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    Well, it IS weaker than his FH, thats for sure. ;)
     
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    Nadal has two forehands
     
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    Yeah, but the key of your sentence is "er" . weakER. He has one heck of a forehand :cool:
     
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    He may say. One with heavy topspin, and the other one, from the other wing, rather flat :D
     
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  8. Golden Retriever

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    How to say scarcasm in Spanish?
     
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  9. Andres

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    Add an 'O'. Sarcasmo.

    Yeah, I found the sarcasm in the thread OVERALL... but I didn't saw sarcasm in two statemens, "2HBH can't handle low skidding slices" and "Nadal has a weak backhand".

    ;)
     
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  10. Golden Retriever

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    Scarcastic being 1. 2HBH CAN handle low skidding slices (for me, just open the face a little bit.) 2. Nadal has a 2HBH BUT it is NOT weak, in fact it is better than Fed's 1HBH.
     
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  11. inyourface

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    Well, it IS weaker than his FH, thats for sure,....If you think that is because you dont see the final....because the 2HBH was the best performance of Nadal in the final,Roger think that , but Nadal knows that Roger think that and hit perfect all the match with the backhand
     
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    I said this in another thread already. Slice to Nadal's backhand is not an effective shot. Nadal turns most of such slower shots into offensive killers. If anything I think the 2HBH is steadier to dig slices. At the end of the first set, Fed made a great slice to Nadal's backhand corner, What did Nadal do? He hit a hard flat DTL winner. Believe me, the reason Fed didn't hit more slices is not because of strategy or he forgot, he knew it'd be worse.

    Many of us recretional players have much bigger trouble dealing with skidding slices to our backhands, so do many pros. However, Nadal's backhand is so good, and playing left handed, he's so used to hitting those DTL slices to his backhand from the righties all the time. Believe me, DTL slice is harder to make (due to higher net and shorter distance) and easier to return (less angle). It's different from slicing cross court against a righty. There, of course, lies the problem of playing a lefty.
     
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  13. monologuist

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    It's harder to hit high-bouncing shots on clay with a 1-handed backhand as has been analyzed ad nauseum, but then again, clay is slower so players have more time to set up for their 1-handed backhands, so it's a push...1-handed backhands is certainly not a disadvantage on clay. 5 out of the last 10 French Open champions have had 1-handers, and 5 have had 2-handers. Many of the current top claycourt players in the world have 1-handers : Guga (well he did), Gaudio, Robredo, Gonzalez, Acasuso, Almagro, Gasquet, Martin, Bracciali, Volandri, Calleri, etc., etc.,etc.

    Actually, come to think of it, most of them don't seem to have as much trouble hitting against heavy topspin with their 1-handers as Federer does. For instance, when Gaudio plays Nadal, you rarely see him mishit backhands aginast Nadal's lefty forehand...in fact, I've seen him absolutely crush Nadal's forehands. Of course, many of these guys are clay court specialists, so they're more used to dealing with those shots....bottom line is Federer's backhand was always his achilles heel, and while it is much much better than it used to be, psychologically, sometimes a player's greatest weakness rears its ugly head when it is attacked relentlessly under duress. Even if his backhand gets better from here on out, I think it will still break down at times under extreme pressure, b/c Federer spent so many of his formative years feeling less than 100% confident about that wing.
     
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