I have a very strong feeling Fed wins in 3,4 or 5 tight sets!

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  1. Mr Topspin

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    The wait is over! The final almost every tennis enthusiast wanted is on the horizon. Federer vs Nadal II at the 2007 French Open. Nadal has played great getting to the final for the 3rd straight year! He is yet to drop a set! His two tough mathes were handled with disdain. Hewitt conquered in the 4th round said, 'He (Rafa) has the best forehand on clay'. Whlst his other potential banana skin (Djokovic) lamented, '..he is more powerful than anyone else'. Nadal has beaten all before him and yet one last man stands in his way to becoming a young legend.

    On the other side of the court stands the talented Mr Federer. A multi-talented shot maker with every shot in the game. A 10 time grand slam champion trying to etch hs name in annals of time. Like Nadal he has negotiated through the draw with typical eficiency only losing one set in the quarter final, whilst i might add experimenting with a few plays. He is ready and confdent after recently beating his young torementor in Hamburg a few weeks earlier.

    So it boild down to a test of wills! Who will prevail? Will it be the young, relentless, tireless warrior with a heart of a Lion. Or will the dancing feet of the master tactictian, dancing, flying showcasing his enormous talent to legions of fans prevail.

    I have the feeling that Federer pays the Piper and takes it 4 tight sets and realises his destiny!
     
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  2. @wright

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    Nicely written. I have a feeling that Federer will conquer his Parisian demons...I think he has the gameplan set in his mind, and hopefully it won't be sunny on Sunday! This could be a magnificently historical weekend in tennis. I can't wait.
     
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    should be a great match, cannot wait to watch it!! Hopefully Fed pulls it out!!
     
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  4. laurie

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    I disagree on this occasion, having seen Rafa play a couple of days ago, Rafa is a very tactical player - but it's different tactics to the more conventional Federer.

    Rafa will keep those high balls coming to Federer's backhand side, that really is the key to the whole match, last year Federer couldn't handle that tactic and fell to pieces in sets 2, 3 and 4. Federer has to counter that - easier said than done. The clay in Paris plays different to Hamburg, it's a harder, higher bouncing surface and it suits Nadal plus most likely the weather will be very hot - it was damned hot on Wednesday.

    Most significantly, Nicolay played a Tennis match today that will probably give him some sleepless nights for the next few months. Nadal will not be so accommodating on Sunday, he's incredibly fresh as he hasn't dropped a set this time.

    If Federer wants to win on Sunday he will have to play the best match of his whole career.

    However, I predict a Nadal triumph once again.
     
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    Actually, fed has already solved this problem. In past matches he went backhand to backhand with Nadal. Ultimately, his backhand would break down.

    In Hamburg he went backhand to nadal's forehand (Hewitt did the same thing). When Nadal would come back cross court, fed would step in and take the reply with his own forehand down the line.

    Easier said than done, and I'm not saying he will be able to employ this again, but it did open up the court for him.
     
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  6. laurie

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    You see Drakulie, that's what makes Sunday interesting. Federer has now Hamburg 4 times so he likes that surface.

    I've never been to Hamburg but I've now been to Paris a few times and I have no doubt it's a harder surface than Hamburg which suits Nadal, the ball bounces higher in Paris.

    Plus Nadal was mentally tired in Hamburg, here is absolutely fresh and wants to win.

    All speculation now of course so we will see what happens on Sunday.

    I hope the womens final is a good one too.
     
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  7. mentalcase

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    Fed will lose again. Rafa is just too good on clay.
     
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  8. dh003i

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    mentalcase,

    See Hamburg.
     
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    See Monte Carlo, Rome, and Roland Garros.
     
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  10. 8PAQ

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    If Fed plays the best match of his career then he wins 6-0 6-2 6-1. Fed wins in straights even if he is near his best. Fed at his best ==> Nadal eating bagels. Problem is Fed doesn't play against Nadal at or even near his best that often.
     
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    no matter what we say on forum Roger is not in great form. Against Tommy is lost 2nd set 6-1 and in semis he was playing crap and only Danko-Monkey can give away such match. Even Roger said I would have lost in 3 sets in semi. Nadal won't give away any cheap points once we are in second set. First set he might be nervous but that won't be the case as he has nothing to loose compare to last year and Roger again facing history.

    Nadal in 3
     
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  12. dh003i

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    That's some pretty selective cherry-picking there...

    Although Federer didn't play well vs. Davydenko, he fought through it and won when playing bad; that's a good preparation for a FO final which will likely require such fight. He may have lost a set to Robredo at 6-1, but turned around and clobbered him 6-1, then 6-3. He played excellent the last 2 sets vs. Robredo.

    His form was also poor coming into the Hamburg finals, then he clobbered Nadal.
     
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  13. xanctus

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    I wish Fed will win this FO. Just this once...For the sake of being "Complete".
    But, I have a slight thought in my mind that Rafa will win again this FO, as he is also seeking a history. (as Bjorn Borg)
     
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    Yeah, Fed consistently uses DTL BHs with Nadal. He had probably started doing that in their previous matchup before Monte Carlo, but we glossed over it.

    The key thing is that, for the first time against Nadal, Fed was able to control the center of the court. Which is what Nadal does to Fed like no other player.

    I'm hoping Fed's serve holds up, so that the game can be purely decided on who wins the positioning on the court.
     
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  15. tennishead93

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    you need to be a tennis columnist. u gave me goosebumps.
     
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  16. WhiteSox05CA

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    Nadal is on such a roll right now. He's got more confidence than Federer.

    It'll definately be a great match. I want to see how Federer approaches the game.
     
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  17. tennishead93

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    so ur saying if fed played his best 1 year ago he would be holding a career slam in his trophy case. i dont understand the reasoning behind ur statement.
     
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  18. Nadal_Freak

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    Nadal owns Federer. It's time to admit it.
     
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  19. dh003i

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    It's funny, you hear stupid statements like "Nadal owns Federer". Yet, Federer has won 3 of their last 4 matches. If it was the other way around, the same people saying such idiocies would be jumping all over that.
     
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  20. drakulie

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    On clay>>. Fed owns Nadal, or did you forget about that bagel??
     
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  21. AAAA

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    Was it Goran's destiny to win Wimbledon when 3 rain breaks stretched his semi final win Henman over 2 days? Henman was outplaying him but each rain delay allowed Goran to regroup and made Henman lose momentum and ultimately the match.

    While Federer's win over Davydenko is not of such epic proportions Federer said he should have lost so maybe it's a good omen for Federer. Frankly the way Nadal is playing my faith in Federer pulling through rests with some higher power.
     
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  22. Mick

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    Federer has gotten pretty good results so far at Roland Garros for a guy without a coach.
     
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  23. pound cat

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    Anyone who saw Federer play in the semi to-day couldn't in his wildest dreams think that Federer could win on Sunday. A huge amount of UE's, fh going out all the time, shanking balls, & his timing was off for the entire match. He might like the gritty clay of Hamburg, but the confitions of RG clay don't suit him. He's not a natural at sliding around on this slippery surface. And his first serve sucked and he had 17 bp's against him.
     
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  24. psamp14

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    whats so incredible about this fairytale time in tennis is that after losing to nadal last year, federer has set himself up once again not only to complete the grand slam, but to hold all 4 slams at once....how good is that....federer is unbelievable damn good to give himself a second chance at history

    i am so excited about this its unbelievable....one more win for federer and he's really going to soar in the ranks of tennis history

    11 slams at the age of 25.....he's still very young and i see him winning his 5th wimbledon and 4th us open title to complete the calendar slam if he wins sunday....imagine that....all 4 slams in one year, and 6 straight slams

    and 26 isnt really old either...he'll be a heavy favorite going into the 2008 AO....

    i'm getting too far ahead but this is very believable when you speak of federer,...he's just that dominant and predictable
     
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  25. Swingin Richard

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    You can throw Hamburg out the window. Throw last years FO out the door. It's time for them to get it on. Lace em up and bring your best ****!
     
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    Hopefully Nadal is the spoiler to Fed's history making. :D
     
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  27. tennishead93

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    fed has made nadal eat a donut on clay and grass.
     
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    Fed fans and their bagel talk is getting old. Fed won once out of how many times? I mean c'mon Nadal is on fire, Fed has to up his game from the match he played today or he's in trouble. Yeah he's the best player in the world but on clay he's still second in line. Yeah he has a chance but to talk about the Hamburg bagel so d@mn much is exhausting and stupid. My two cents on the match, Nadal wins in 4 just like last year.
     
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  29. Forehand Forever

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    It's gonna be a tough match I'll leave it at that. Both players are playing strong. I can't wait to watch this.
     
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  30. Fries-N-Gravy

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    Fed owns Nadal, Nadal owns Fed. That is really some ignorant sh!te. Why can't people talk about this match with some common sense? It's a great accomplishment for both. Honestly Nadal has a winning record because Fed can meet him in clay finals, Federer would have a better record except for the fact that Nadal usually gets taken out earlier in other tournaments such as USO and AO and can't meet him in the final. whether you like it or not Federer is overall a better player (2nd best on clay so far unless he wins this weekend) with Nadal being the clay specialist catching up on other surfaces where he isn't even 2nd best. and with good day, bad day excuses, being a champion means being able to win all week, or all two weeks regardless of how tired you are, etc. someone always does.

    Federer will not likely win unless he plays his best, if he can do it, he can beat Nadal. As I keep saying, he never keeps his level of play up, it goes up and down during a match. its been good enough to beat just about anyone but against Nadal thats just not enough.
     
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  31. dh003i

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    Federer moves more fluently on clay than Nadal. It isn't movement that's why he lost the FO last year.

    Fed was also playing "poorly" before the Hamburg final, then upped his level.

    He's a 10-time GS champion. He can do that.
     
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  32. Nadal_Freak

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    Actually Fed doesn't. Nadal is as natural on clay as you get. He moves much better here than the other surfaces by far. Federer just is able to finish points easier but when put on defense, he will struggle.
     
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    I want to see Fed win and i'm really rooting for him to get the ultimate grand slam. But I think if it goes to 5 sets, Rafa will win because he's had a shorter semi-final match than Fed who had to beat Davydenko in three sets, which all went right down to the wire with 7-5 and two tie breakers.
     
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  34. dh003i

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    Actually, Fed's a good retriever, just not as good as Nadal.

    Re movement, ask Wilander, who said that Fed moves better on clay.
     
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    I could care less what Wilander says. I just see what I see and Nadal is totally comfortable on clay. Federer moves well on clay but not as well as Nadal. No one does really.
     
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  36. Ztalin

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    ok mr. tennis analyst nadal freak.
     
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  37. @wright

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    Someone finally stated it with the economy of word to get the point across with no static. Well said.
     
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  38. helloworld

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    No way man. I've seen both players playing top form tennis throughout their entire career and mark my word that if both players play well, Federer is going to be the one in trouble. You see, Nadal has this type of game that doesn't suit Federer's game at all !! Federer will always have trouble playing against Nadal no matter what. If they both play well, I expect Nadal to win in 4 sets. If not, anything can happen.
     
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    I wonder how many bagels Nadal can eat.
     
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  40. Nadal_Freak

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    So far Nadal hasn't lost a set in this tournament. I find it hilarious that you cling onto Federer's only win on Nadal on clay.
     
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  41. Mick

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    One thing is certain, comes sunday, either the hardcore Fed fans or the hardcore Nadal fans will be very disappointed in the match outcome.
     
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    I find it hilarious that you actually think anything you say carries any weight, but here you are.

    Be like Nadal. Have a bagel.
     
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    actually, regardless of what happens, Fed's still the superior player. A win would only make him superior-er.

    that's how good he is. I had to make up a new word.
     
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    I have no doubt about that (that Federer is the superior player). Even Nadal himself has acknowledged this fact in many of the press interviews. I just hope that the match will be a competitive match. I don't really care who will win. I like both of these players.
     
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  45. Breakaz54z

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    I agree with Mick. Both players are amazing in their own respect, having this match extremely competitive will just make it all the more interesting. I just hope Nadal wins at least this year cause otherwise what other grand slam are there for him unless he becomes amazing on grass?
     
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  46. z-money

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    you have no idea what you are talking about! who cares if he lost in hamburg! he was out of it fed even noticed and said sorry after the match. nadal is playing real good, hasnt droped a set, and has loads more confidence going into this one. fed made the final but wow what a fight with davydenko 5,6,6 both tiebreaks being close, tells me 2-3 points go differentlly and we have a different finalist
     
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  47. Swingin Richard

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    You know what I mean. So much talk, the hype. These two mother scratchers are gonna go at it and WE will be the winners. Sunday morning, maybe a bloody mary, maybe a whisky sour, an omelette, several Rafa fans, several Fed fans, some serious **** talking and some serious drama. Lets get ready to RUUUUUUUMMMMMMBBBBLLLLLLE!

    What's everyone doing for the match? Any huge parties planned?
     
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    You are missing the point. Federer is currently the Kink of Clay, with the longest winning streak on clay......***AND*** he gave your boy a bagel.
     
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    Yeah right, Kink that is. lol
     
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