I just missed on a Prince Neos

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  1. lynnbart

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    I nearly purchased a used Prince Neos today. I've been using a Gamma dropweight, fixed clamps, and 6 point mount.

    If I made the switch to a 2 pt mount, glide bars, and crank would I end up regretting it ? I realize the Neos is legendary but all the newer machines seem to have swivel clamps, more mounting etc...

    I'll probably keep looking unless someone convinces me otherwise.
     
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  2. Andyroo10567

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    How much would you have been able to pick one up for? I certainly think you wouldn't regret the buy. I had a dropweight 6 point stringer and now with a crank machine, i string MUCH faster.
     
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    so i assume you are talking neos 1000, not 1500.

    and what's the price?

    basically, it's the machine that all others ("better or worse") are measured against, IMO. (neos 1000, ektelon model whatever..).

    for the right $$, hard to go wrong.
     
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  4. lynnbart

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    It would have cost me $750. I was hoping to find one around $500 or so... I may be dreaming.
     
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  5. zapvor

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    if you grow up on the crank it will be the fastest for you to string on.
     
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    A bit high, IMHO. $500-$600 is the going price for used Neos or Ektelon H. The Neos 1000 is a slightly newer machine and could go for $750-800.

    If you were going to spend that much anyways, you're better off buying a Wise 2086 Pro with a Table Top adapter.
     
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  7. zapvor

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    lakers-are you a stringer for a shop?
     
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    Nope, but I do string for a lot of USTA Juniors and College players in my area.
     
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  9. zapvor

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    ah gotcha. i was wondering. cool man thats a thankless job!
     
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  10. fortun8son

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    The Neos 1000 is more of a 4pt mount than a true 2pt.
    No outer supports to get in the way, mounting is quick and the glidebars are fast and easy if you don't do fan patterns. You'd need the Universal Flying Clamps for those.
     
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    I've never understood this sentiment. not saying i'm right, but to me there are 2/4 pt (what's the real difference?) OR a 6 pt. at least on modern stringers...

    On a "4 point", the machine only clamps the racket in two spots, right?. On a 6 point, the racket kinda "floats" in a 6 pt "cradle" and is never really clamped down.
     
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    The way I see it, and I may be wrong, many 2pt mounts have clamps that screw down on the frame to hold it.
    The Neos has two adjustable nylon supports inside the head area and interchangeable throat pieces that prevent movement inwards while the upper clamps dog down to hold the frame between rubber pads that prevent sideways motion.

    The true 4pt mount of the 1500 and 5000/6000 is superior IMO. No throat pieces to match up or lose.
     
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    The Gamma 2-point SC mount is very similar as well. The only downside to 2-point mounts is sometimes the racket does not sit level, because the throat is narrower than the frame. The Babolat APDGT is a good example. The recomended alternative is to mount at the Yoke rather than the bridge/throat, but pulling mains at the bottom may be a PITA. Head Crossbow series rackets have to be mounted that way on 2-point mounts.
     
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    Ah, but the Neos 1000 has a leveling adjustment (underneath the fixed arm).
    The new mount, alas, does not.

    I have to mount Ektelon Power Ring frames upside-down.:)
    I can't mount them at all on my 6pt.
    The outer supports won't come in far enough at the throat.
     
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  15. anubis

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    I wouldn't mind a Prince NEOS 1000 also. they are great machines. Two things you need to look out for when buying a used one:

    1. how many racquets were strung on it? If its more than 10,000, then perhaps $750 is a bit high of a price.

    2. You'll need to invest in a gamma calibrator. cranks need to be calibrated, and it probably doesn't come with one.
     
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    FWIW I paid $500 for a nearly new Neos 1k in July 2010 which included all tools and the Neos flying clamps for fan patterns, some stringing guides, and about 10 packs of syngut string. It was previously owned by a rich kid who played high school tennis but quit. He told me he'd used it less than 50 times and based on its condition I absolutely believe it.

    I found the Neos in a different city from where I live on Craigslist (using searchtempest.com) and got my brother who lived close by to buy it for me. Deals on used Neos stringers are out there but you have to diligently look for them in my experience.

    Also, FWIW I love my Neos and am extremely satisfied with my purchase.
     
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  17. Tennishacker

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    Neos, choice of machine for Tennis Warehouse.
     
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  18. lynnbart

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    I still think that is the machine I'm wanting. 10,000 rackets ! If they will hold up that long they have to be good ..
     
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    I have been keeping a close eye on Prince Neos 100 for sale. I would say that you can get one, even an almost newer for 500-600. The economy is poor now so that helps. Most the time people will ask 750 or more if it is in new condition but will almost always come down to 500-600 because they dont sell very quickly. I am in Fort Lauderdale Florida.
     
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    Just out of curiosity I just did a searchtempest Craigslist search for the entire U.S. and found 4 Neos 1000s for sale, offered at $750, $800, $850, and $900, however, none were in FL. That said, you still may be right about people dropping their prices.
     
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    Would you play the asking price? If so then you will pay $750-$900

    Dont get me wrong, if you offer 500-600 they will jump at it.
     
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    Interesting timing of this one. I'm selling my Neos in excellent condition (about 1K frames) for $750. I think it's a fair price considering the price includes an extra new clamp and "dog kit". The only 2 things that ever wear out on these machines.
    The price also includes delivery, set up, and a 1/2 hr orientation, not a lesson, those take 2+ hrs.

    I'm supposed to deliver it tomorrow evening-
     
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  23. Ronaldo

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    Paid $500 shipped for a TW Neos 1000, one yr old.
     
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  24. zapvor

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    so TW sells their used ones!
     
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    oh yesssssssssssssss, on the TW classifieds!
     
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    There are plenty of great deals out there, especially on CL if you regularly monitor them.
     
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    I plan to keep looking. I live in such a remote area that the 'net is my main source and chance...
     
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  30. Ronaldo

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    The Neos is OK but for the mounting system, and the clamping, and the ease of weaving crosses. And all of the adjustments.
     
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  31. lynnbart

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    Do you not like yours ??
     
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  32. Ronaldo

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    Just yanking your chain. And others
     
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  33. lynnbart

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    Thought so,,,just making sure :)
     
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  35. Lakers4Life

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    Back in 2007.:confused::roll:
     
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  36. fortun8son

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    They are tanks.
    I only use mine for racquetball now.
    I strung 1500 racquets on it before the store got a new one and was going to throw it out!
    Yes, I got it free.
    No idea how old it is. It was well-worn 6 years ago.
    The tension head was worked on by Tennis Machines two years ago.
    It still has problems, but it's kinda like having a child with special needs.
    I love it, but it needs extra attention.
     
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  37. Ronaldo

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    Yes and yes. TW was selling one yr old stringers.
     
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  38. zapvor

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    he was just making a point that TW sells theirs in due time
     
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    I would buy one on the spot for 500 but cannot find one. Any ideas where to look (other than *Bay,Craigslist,Google)
     
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    The $500 range is kinda where I've been looking for also. Seems that many have found one in that price range, but so far I haven't.

    Once you start getting to $750 and above, then add shipping, I might as well just buy a new one.
     
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  41. I Heart Thomas Muster

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    It took a few months of looking but I waited and found a used Ektelon Neos for $500.00 about forty minutes away from me. She was a bit rough on the eyes but worked perfectly (which is why she was named the Millennium Falcon). Neos machines at the right price are out there, you just gotta be patient.

    I should have kept her cause I bought a new one and right out of the box it needed work. Eventually I had to send it back to tennismachines and they made things right under warranty.
     
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  42. zapvor

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    theres a lot of love for neos! i am not a big fan. but i am spoiled by electronic machines
     
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  43. diredesire

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    I'd hit up TW and get a contact that maintains the floor stringers. They probably get rid of theirs pretty regularly.
     
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  44. Lakers4Life

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    Nothing like a used employee abused machine. ;)

    I wish my Sensor was better maintained, but that what you get with buying a shop machine. At the one I got out of the lot had the least amount of rackets strung, at 5000+.
     
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    When people get paid for the number of rackets strung using someone else's tools the rackets and tools are the least of their concerns.
     
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  46. diredesire

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    You're telling me. I was in charge of maintaining the machines for the most part when I strung for a Univ. team... mostly because no one else cared enough/noticed a difference if the clamp bases loosened up, or the mounting stocks stopped turning correctly...

    Solution: Strong arm 'em tighter! :confused::confused:
     
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  47. schmolke

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    A used Neos/ Model H is a great option. I just bought an H for $180. A steal !!!
     
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  48. lynnbart

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    I don't know the differnence in the models. I think the one I missed on was a Model J.
     
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    Would I be happier with a Wise tension head instead of trying to trade for a crank? Is the Wise really a bit faster and more accurate ?

    I think they have a Gamma adaptor that will allow one to be mounted. I would lose 360 degree rotation, but I would keep my swivel clamps and 6 pt mounting.
     
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  50. bigmalik76

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    I don't care so much for neos I would also take a Alpha or Gamma used crank in that price range. Been looking for a while now hopefully I will find one eventually.
     
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