I Just Recieved My Dunlop Aerogel 200!

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  1. mileslong

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    i have a meeting to get to but will post pictures later today if anyone wants to see them and i'm going to schedule a hitting session with it later. i have to determine if im going to use it in my big match tomorrow night or stay with my redondo MP.

    the weird thing is that it came strung with dunlop tour performance 16 gauge string in it. i only use 17 gauge especially since all my rackets have an 18X20 pattern. i hate to cut it out but i already know i wont like it. its a cheap string and this frame isnt made for a 16 gauge in my opinion.

    my dunlop aerogel bag has been ordered as well :)
     
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    Mileslong,
    please post some pics if you have time later on. Also, did you order the racket from another country?

    Thanks
     
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  3. Chauvalito

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    The lighter aerogel 200 is very appealing especiall with the 95 square in ch head. Its just to bad they wont release it in the states. It seems like the perfect transition racket between the 18x20 200 and the aerogel 300...

    The 100 also looks quite suite. If I remember correctly, when i converted the weight from grams to oz. it came out to be 11.6 or so. to me that weight leaves a lot of room for customizing balance and weight, unlike other 90 inch frames...just some thoughts.

    Look forward to the pics...
     
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    yes pics would be nice, also do you mind writing a review on how it felt compared to the m-fil 200, if you have played with that frame as well.
    thanks
     
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  5. mileslong

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    i will absolutely post pics later on tonight and i will write a review as well. i ordered this stick from europe. the aerogel 100 wont be available in england
    by the way, i talked to the distributor. i want to find out where the 100's will be available im guessing maybe germany and australia. i havent found out yet about the 200 16X19 aerogel but im investigating it right now. i just wish they would make the 16X19 with the same weight as the 18X20. i dont like light rackets and i know i could lead it up but it never seems to work out for me doing that. the dunlop 200 line has always been the perfect weight for me, i have never felt compelled to add any lead to any of their frames regardless of the generation.

    i just left it at my club to be restrung with vs gut mains 17 gauge and excel 17 crosses. they were out of most of the 17 gauge but this should be a nice comfortable setup with plenty of available pop. i wanted to try some lux in the crosses but they were out. this setup should feel like butter however. im wondering if its going to feel more like my mfil 200 or my mw200. i cant wait to hit it.

    as far as looks, i love that they added the dunlop in black and white on the hoop like my beloved mw200g but it has a blue stock like the mfil with white and light blue added at the top and bottom of the hoop. it kind of creates an optical illusion which i believe has led some on here to believe that the hoop was more square than the typcial dunlop oval. the shape isnt different it just makes it look that way because of the way its painted. it makes the hoop look bigger than it is as well due to this optical illusion.

    i dont like the white personally, i dont like white on my tennis rackets at all but if it plays great like my other dunlops and hopefully a little better then i will be ordering the 100 and the 200 16X19 as soon as i can track them down. i was one of the first people in this country to get the babolat aeropro control racket, i will even bribe people sometimes to ship to places that they dont ship to, im kind of obsessed to be the first one to get a new racket when they come out. craig clark beat me to the k series wilson but im not really a wilson guy. :) more later...i have a business to run :)
     
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  6. federermcenroeagassi

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    be sure to compare to redondo : D
     
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  7. Chauvalito

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    Mileslong,
    If you find out info. for the 100 and the 16x19 200, please post about. I, as well as other i', sure are also interested in those rackets. Distribution info. would be greatly appreciated on my part concerning those 2 rackets. Thanks, and hope you enjoy the first hit.
     
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    Who'd you order it from, and was it difficult to get it shipped to the US before it has been released here?
     
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    How'd you get your hands on it? It's already released in Europe? I want some connections!:sad:
     
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    RedFlea.. I believe she got it from p w p . com!! I was just on that site and saw it.. Their pretty pricey, I believe around $170...
     
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    That's just the cost of tennis rackets in the UK (and most of Europe...). They are actually roughly 40 pounds cheaper than a Wilson, Head, Volkl, Fischer from the same category.
     
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  12. mileslong

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    well first of all im a male, and secondly i did get it from ***, the wimbledon store is the only one that has it now i believe. it is pricey and the shipping is high, the shipping for my dunlop aerogel bag will almost cost almost as much as the bag itself. i know its stupid to pay that but so what, if it makes me happy then its worth it, and you only live once people, steal happiness in as many ways, levels and times as you can...
     
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    I'll certainly post if the 100 comes out in Australia. The Sydney Dunlop rep was apparently very dismissive of any early release here - of any of the new racquets - complaining that they want to shift stock of the existing m-Fil line beforehand. I don't imagine they couild hold back or delay once the Aus Open is happening, but maybe they'll try.

    So the distinctive Dunlop hoop remains - that's a good thing.

    There is a staged release to these racquets and the 16x19 is apparently in the second phase. I too am looking out for that one and hope that it is an improvement on the m-Fil 200 2006
     
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    I figured mileslong had to be a guy... ;)

    Thanks, just went there and saw it. Hmmm...I'm tempted, actually, to get the new 300 rather than waiting until Feb of next year. Got some bonus money to waste

    What was the shipping cost, and how long did delivery take? If I could get it before xmas, I might just go for it.
     
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    below is the cost for the shipping, it took about 3 days to arrive to california.

    Postage: Parceline 3-5 days
    >> Payment: Visa
    >> Text No:
    >> Code Item Colour Size Quantity Price Total
    >> 7464 Dunlop - Aerogel 200
    >> N/A 3 1 £76.59 £76.59
    >> Postage £28.99

    oh and i just found out that my dunlop bag won't available before christmas :(
     
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    Hmmm...$60 shipping...hmmm....tempted, tempted. How irresponsible can I be? ;)

    Were there other shipping options that weren't so expensive that would get it here within a couple of weeks? (Sorry for the dribble of questions...) :)
     
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    so where are the pics and the review?

    actually i think the pics are more important
    reviews are only one's feel with the racket, you have to go out and try it yourself
     
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    About a month or two ago I saw a guy with an Aerogel 200 and an aerogel 300 in his bag. the grips were already somewhat worn. How could he have gotten those? I was going to ask him about them but I didnt have the chance to.
     
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    Comparison to MW200G 95

    I'll be interested as to how it compares to the old MW200g 95 (which I still currently sue). Is it true that the Aerogel has the same thinner throat like the MW200g?
     
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    im leaving my office right now to go to the club to pick up my racket, i dont know if i can get someone to hit this late in the day, even the ball machine is already taken, i might be resigned to hitting against a wall tonight which is nothing to base a review on. i play tomorrow night in my singles league where i have worked my way up from court 20 to center court. i lost two weeks ago on center court but then won again last week on court two to move back to center and hopefully a rematch with the pusher supreme who went undefeated in the last league.

    im scared to play him (assuming he won last week) with a racket i have never played with before. i doubt that it will play that much different than my other dunlops but we will see. i will take the photos tonight and get them posted, im in cali though so it might be late for a lot of you. i will also give some initial impressions about the wall hit, i will also hit my MW200g, HM200G and Mfil200 tonight in succession along with the new aerogel and some intial feel impressions. i wont know how it plays until i match test it ot at least a good hitting session. i will probably use it in the first set tomorrow night and fall back to the redondo or the MW if i lose the first set...
     
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  22. tennis4losers

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    i look forward to your review and pics miles
     
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    I really want to get some of the 100's. They seem awesome because of the 90 in and the light weight for customizing. Eager to hear about the 200's as well since i got the mfil and 200g ones.
     
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    Yep, I do too :)...

    The racquet I am most looking forward to would probably be the 300 and possibly the 200. I really hope the 300 plays almost identical to the M-Fil 300.
     
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    Do you hope this because you don't want to buy the new ones, or because you'll still get your desired playability from the new ones?


    If it plays identically, then you shouldn't need to buy the Aerogel 300.....
     
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    That was two hours ago....I'm thinking it is around tonight right now:D I want to see these pictures lol.
     
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    seriously, he'd be plane stupid
     
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    Yup.....you might as well then stock up on the mFil 300s now at the discount prices.
     
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    Get it Redflea.... do it!! I would, but the shipping to Indonesia would probably be costly, but what the heck....

     
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  30. pNoyr3D

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    Well.. The Aerogel 300 I am thinking of buying is the 16 x 18 version. The M-Fil 300's are 16 x 19 and am really curious on how the 16 x 18 plays. I probably won't be buying one for a long time because the price of these are too high for my budget.

    That's kinda mean :(.. Lol.

    Yeah I am really thinking of doing that just because the price of the Aerogels are high and I am currently loving my M-Fil's.
     
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    For what it's worth, I played doubles a couple of days ago with a guy that was trying out the Aerogel 200 for the first time. (I'm in Greenville and yes there are several of the new Aerogels "floating" around here.) Up until about a year ago he had used the original 300g. He said he switched to an O3 Tour because he couldn't generate much topspin with the 300g. He tried the mFil-300 but had similar results. (This guy has a big time power game). During and after the match he had nothing but praise for the 200. His assessment was that the balance was more head-light than the m-Fil 200, and racquet could generate the topspin that the 300's were couldn't.

    SC Tennis Player
     
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    The 300g was evenly balanced but it was more a platform for adding lead. At least I think everyone would want to have customised it. I did. And still have it. But you end up adding so much lead it feels too flexy.

    But you opponent wasn't comparing apples when he compared the 300 lineage to the 200.

    But to have got enhanced topspin out of the 200 compared to the earlier 300 line seems counter-intuitive (the 300 having the bigger head and more open string pattern) so that must be high praise indeed for these new 200 areogels.
     
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    :D You sir, are what's known as an enabler.

    I promised myself a spurious toy or two for xmas, and this is about as spurious as it gets...ordering a racquet from England just to have it four or five weeks before they go on sale here...that's just plain silly.

    But heck, if I still like my MF3s better, I'll just sell the new Aerogel to some lucky duck in January who will also enjoy getting it early. That's good karma, right? ;)
     
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    well guys, the night didnt pan out for me like i wanted. when the racket arrived i had to dash out to a meeting, but before i left i snapped a pic of the box and the racket one the ground. i ran and dropped it off at my club to get restrung then i was going to pick it up later, hit with it and take photos tonight and report on here. well here's what happened.

    after i left my office i got to the club around 7:00pm and the dang thing was still sitting there behind the counter and it hadnt even been looked at yet. they promised me it would be done tonight! i was pissed so i told the guy to give me racket so i could hit with it against the wall courts there. it has this really crappy dunlop tour performance 16 gauge string it but i wanted to hit it anyway just to get an idea.

    first of all you cant tell anything about a rackets performance by hitting it against the wall. you cant tell spin, the way it serves, volleys, depth of shot or anything really except if it feels good hitting it or not. this one does feel great. even with this crappy string it feels rock solid, no vibration, classic dunlop feel. it feels better than the mfil and HM in my opinion. its like the MW but a little stiffer and crisp. it kind of like the difference between the volkl c10 and the dnx 10. maybe a little stiffer hoop accounts for this slight difference in feel. im hoping that this slight change will result in a better serving stick which is my only gripe with the great MW.

    one thing i could tell is that i can hit a nice low backhand slice with this stick, it was like money, i could cut the legs off of the ball at will and send it about 2 inches above the net line everytime, thats a very good sign. that shot is the reason i left my pure control. i cant wait to really test it and write a proper review. im playing with it tomorrow night in a big match for me. it felt good enough for me to give it a test run in a real match.

    i dont know if any of you here are old enough to have played baseball with a wooden bat or not but thats what this feels like when you hit the sweetspot or close to it. you don't really feel it, it just feels solid, the ball just pockets and explodes off the strings. the feel is pretty muted just like a dunlop and very solid. im very excited about this stick but i will wait until after my match tomorrow before i start singing its praises.

    anyway here are the two lame pics i took before i had to rush out. i will take a lot of proper photos tomorrow and post them here along with my post match report :)

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    Thanks mileslong, keep it up!

    I'll tune in tomorrow.

    BTW....can you "see" the Aerogel anywhere?
     
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    Beaut!

    Hey - Mileslong, I'm poised to order, but wanted to confirm. Did you have any US import taxes on top of the purchase/shipping costs from the vendor?
     
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    What model will you order? Will you stay with the 300 line or go the 200?
     
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    300...I moved from my RDX 500 Mids to the M-Fil 300 a few weeks back, and am going to stay w/a 98. I'm getting uncomfortably close to 50, and surprisingly I have found that the general trend is that I am not getting faster/stronger and my eyesight isn't getting better... ;)
     
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    Not tempted to try the 500 Tour? You might like it, you never know.
    While you are at it, give the 400 a shot as well......

     
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    the total charges including shipping were $208.87 plus a separate $6.27 charge from my bank for an international currency conversion charge...
     
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  41. Redflea

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    No no! Bad fielders, bad!

    ;)
     
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    Thanks, mileslong...appreciate it.
     
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    I will believe it when someone finds out exactly how much aerogel is in the racquet and whether that amount makes any difference when compared to the graphite and resin. Also, even if a 2 g piece of aerogel supports a 2.5 kg brick as shown in the pics, you will always choose the brick to hit someone on the head (don't do it though). A racquet needs mass to plough thru the ball.

    Wikipedia page on aerogel lists a lot of uses, but none relating to strength. Mainly electrical and optical properties. Seems irrelevant to a racquet and smells of another marketing gimmick.
     
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  44. Redflea

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    Ordered the Aerogel 300...should arrive next week, based on mileslong's experience.

    Silliest thing I've ever done, racquet-wise, but heck, it's almost Christmas and I'm sure Santa would want me to have it. :D

    Forgot to mention...thanks for your help/info on this, Mileslong.
     
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  45. Carl Roude

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    Mileslong - does it have the thinner throat like the MW?
     
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    Sweet pics miles! Can't wait to see non-blurry pics :). The racquet look's sexii though and seems like you had a great time playing with it!

    I will be back in 3 hours to check back and see if the pictures are up!! They better be here.. Or else!! Lol.
     
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    well here are the actual specs for each of these rackets, i havent measured the throat but it definately looks every but as thin to me by my eyeball test. in fact after reviewing the specs its actually thinner than the MW.

    Muscle Weave 200G 95"

    Length 27 inches 69 centimeters
    Head Size 95 square inches 613 square centimeters
    Weight 12 ounces 340 grams
    Balance Point 12.625 inches 32 centimeters 7pts Head Light
    Shaft Width 21mm Straight Beam
    Composition 3-D Graphite & Muscle Weave
    Flex Rating 59
    Swing Weight 315

    Aerogel 200 18X20 (these are from the site, i dont have the racket with me right now to read what it says on it.)

    Length: 27 inches 69 centimeters
    Head Size: 95 Square Inches 613 square centimeters
    Weight: 11.9 ounces 337.5 grams (strung)
    Balance Point: 12.598 inches 31.998 cm (dont know how headlight that is, 7pts?)
    Shaft Width: 20mm
    Compostion : Carbon S-Fibre/Magnesium 3D Braided Graphite
    Flex Rating: 63
    Swing Weight: ?


    lol, my match isnt until 7:30pm tonight pacific time. i will get home about 6:00pm and try and post some pics, i better do it before the match so in case this dweeb/pusher beats me again and i smash my new aerogel to pieces...although if i took pics of my smashed racket they would be pretty damn funny...
     
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    Redflea.. did you order the 16X19 or 16x18 Aerogel 300. Looking at that particular web retailer, I could not tell which string pattern it is..Thanks
     
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    I couldn't tell for sure either, but it looks more like the 16x19, if the image means anything. A guess at best.
     
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    That is what I was guessing too.. thanks
     
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