I keep breaking racquets on serve!!!

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  1. FH2FH

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    I cracked my 3rd frame last night (2nd in one week) when my racquet slipped out of my hand. This is obviously getting a bit expensive. They're cracking completely through at 11-1 o'clock.

    I replace the overgrip every day and have great serves, just the slipping problem... It doesn't slip often, but when it does it's gone. I'm about 3 for 5 in the last few months. I thought about making a cord, like on a racquet ball racquet so it won't fly away as easily.

    Any solutions ???
     
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  2. Custom+Hybrid

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    Oh my.

    This NEVER happens to me. I feel so bad for you, wasting all of your money.
     
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  3. Jon Hampton

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    Sounds like you need to grip the racket harder. Either that or the way your gripping the racket simply isn't powerful enough to keep it in your hand. Try some forearm exercises.

    Also, off-centered hits on your serve will cause the racket to torque wildly out of your hand...so, avoid doing that.
     
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  4. HyperHorse

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    Hold onto the racquet?
    you do have the right grip size, yes??
     
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  5. Custom+Hybrid

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    Maybe the grip is too small?
     
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  6. spot

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    Actually I have done this twice in the last month. Both times while practicing my serve. I have had a theory that it happens because of poor form on my serve- that I am using too much arm instead of hitting up on the ball with proper rotation but I don't have any video to back that up.
     
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  7. Pomeranian

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    Wow, even if my racquet slipped out of my hand it wouldn't break or crack. Mind if I ask what racquet you are using?

    There's a few reasons I can think of that makes this happen.

    1. Gripping too lightly (I've never seen that problem before, usually the other extreme)
    2. Incorrect grip/ineffective way of holding the racquet.
    3. Mishits causing the frame to twist
    4. Unintentional loosening of grip during the swing
    5. Type of overgrip is very slippery.
    6. Incorrect grip size (probably too small)
    7. Any combination of the above

    Sorry you have this problem, it's not normal to change your overgrip everyday and still have this happen. Unless you're a professional, changing your overgrip everday is ridiculous considering the expense. Consider getting a more tacky overgrip. But I think is likely a gripping issue or if you sweat a lot, then maybe get a very absorbant grip.
     
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  8. kevhen

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    I cracked one that way on a serve a year ago and have since used overgrips and always wear wristbands to keep the sweat off the hands. Haven't had a racquet slip out since then. The original grip had worn down and was very slick that night.
     
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  9. FH2FH

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    The racquets have been slightly different grip shapes and sizes (Dunlop, Yonex, Wilson); probably smallest one was the most "slippery." It's the off center impact (outside half) that causes it to twist away from my thumb.

    At the top of the serve the first bone in my thumb is pointing straight up. Is this correct? Maybe I'm trying to get my hand too far behind the racquet, as in turning a continental grip into an eastern??

    I am strong and flexible, which is why I have powerful serves. I don't think that's why it's slipping.
     
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  10. FH2FH

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    Newer motion (flat serve), grip orientation, sweat, off-center impact are issues. Everyone has asked about the frames, but it doesn't really matter:

    Yonex RDX 500 MP, Dunlop 300G, Wilson PS 6.0 95. The 300G actually cracked in the throat. I also break kevlar strings occassionally...

    I'm sweating more lately too. I need to go back to using a wristband. I don't actually change the overgrips every day, more like 2-3 days or 5 hours or so. They're the Wilson Pro (white) Overgrips, which I've found to be the tackiest.
     
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  11. spot

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    For me, the racket was slipping at the bottom of my followthrough- not at the top of the swing which is why I was cracking at 11-1. Are you having the same issue? or is it slipping at contact?
     
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  12. FH2FH

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    It's loosened at impact. My wrist is still snapping down after contact, then my fingers/hand/arm/etc are basically throwing it into the ground like a baseball.
     
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  13. papa

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    Sure way to crack a racquet - if your lucky, you can get them replaced.
     
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    how do i delete? :O
     
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  15. Tomba

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    Catch your racquet at impact! :) I'm also very serious.
     
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  16. theace21

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    I wonder if it is possible to attach a cord like in racketball rackets. Might be a solution.

    Enlarge the butt cap with athletic tape. Kinda like the knob on a baseball bat. Just a couple of ideas. Good Luck...
     
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  17. equinox

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    I did the same last month. I went for serve and it slipped out of my hand, slid along ground. Racket was ok because it hit with strings facing the ground.

    I and my opposition were in shock. oops. Lucky the serve went into the net. I got a 2nd serve. :D
     
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  18. OrangeOne

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    Just to confirm:

    This thumb-angle issue is because of where your hand ends up angle wise, yes?

    Just wanting to make sure you are *gripping* the racquet, thumb wrapped around one side of the handle and all fingers around the other side?

    I've seen some people who don't wrap their index finger around the racquet (which is asking to break it!) and I think I've seen one person who didn't wrap their thumb around the racquet (which would explain a very weak grip).
     
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  19. FH2FH

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    Correct. It's a normal continental grip, my brain just wants to rotate the thumb forward more for these flat serves. If I rotated my wrist too far I can see how the thumb would basically be useless. There would be insufficient forearm leverage to grip tightly. It would be better just to use an eastern grip.

    One thing that is more concerning. I've had nerve problems (radial/ulnar/to neck) for some time since last fall. It seems like the pain/numbness increased slightly. I've already scheduled an appt to get checked out again, but this "deadening" of the nerves would make me have less arm/hand strength and coordination. I'm not playing right now.
     
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  20. musicc

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    Ouch... I broke an I.Radical once serving... also slipped out of my hands also. Don't worry, live and learn.
     
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  21. serveitup911

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    I have done the same thing probably 5 times over my tennis "career". I think it's kind of a freak accident that some people are prone to.

    My only tip other than the ones that have been mentioned is to have two racquets gripped and ready with identical strings, so you can switch back and forth when one of the grips gets wet.
     
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  22. retroceso

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    lol get a product that woill stop you from sweating. it must be embrassing, it's okay
     
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  23. FH2FH

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    I think the nerve problem(s) will have a lot to do with it. What I have is probably TOS - thoracic outlet syndrome - where there is nerve compression near the shoulder or neck. I had testing done in my arm this spring. Serving aggravates it the most

    I don't know why I didn't link the broken racquets w/ this sooner; probably b/c I learned to live with the mild pain/numbness. Not a good thing!
     
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  24. HyperHorse

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    i hope it all works out for you, and you get the physiotherapy or whatever u need... acupuncture.... whatever works...
    keep us posted...
    how long u had this problem with your nerves?
     
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  25. MTXR

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    honestly don't know what the problem is... I never have any slipping problems... never had a racquet remotely leave my hand....
     
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  26. FH2FH

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    I first noticed it last fall when I changed my serve, grip & motion, and went to a 2H BH. Also started using a nasty kevlar, Pro Blend on a light racquet. I'd used kevlar before, but with thinner gauges and on heavier racquets.

    My elbow was tender near the funnybone (ulnar nerve/cubital tunnel). It has probably been just lingering for a while (bad posture, desk job) and tennis/serving has just aggravated it. The pain is normally mild, but I do have more numbness/heaviness now.

    Physiotherapy is normally successful treatment for TOS & surgery is rare. I just want to get diagnosed so I know what exercises to do and move on. From what I've read I won't have to stop playing, only reduce what aggravates it.
     
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  27. papa

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    Enlarge or change the butt cap - YES. Attach a cord or any movable device - NO.
     
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  28. MTChong

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    I think he's right here; if it came around and hit you, it can be potentially fatal.
     
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  29. theace21

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    Great some lawyer will find me responsible!!! I guess I better pull the patent before it gets to market.

    How about a glove? I know one guy that wears one - it looks - well you know, but he says it works.
     
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  30. quest01

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    Its probably your service motion thats causing your racquet to break.
     
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  31. c_zimma

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    Try throwing your racquets softer. :) No but seriously, maybe try conecting something to your wrist and your racquet. I know wheelchair players secure the racquet to their arm somehow. Just not sure. I couldn't find any pictures.
     
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    That's what i do...like Kafelnikov....it works..:cool:
     
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  33. dcreasy55

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    I have the same problem. I just broke my third racquet yesterday. My problem is that my overgrips get very wet and slippery and the racquet just comes out of my hand on serves and overheads sometimes. I started using the prince no sweat overgrip, but it wears out so quickly that it didn't help much.
     
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  34. MasterTS

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    I had this happen before on a LM prestige. I had a very loose grip and went for a big serve. The racuqet flew and cracked at the 11oclock. I sent it back to head and they shipped me a new racquet lol.
     
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  35. gb93433

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    When my hands are sweaty is the only time I have had a racquet slip.
     
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  36. sureshs

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    Never be my doubles partner, OK? A ball on the back of the head is bad enough, I don't want a racquet reducing me to a vegetable.
     
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  37. FH2FH

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    lol, i nearly had this happen in doubles. the good thing was it usually landed 10 feet in front of me or so. scared the hell out of the people i was playing though.

    BTW, the original problem... two months ago... was that i was loosening my thumb slightly so i could open the racquet face more; like eastern fh instead of the usual continental. had no idea i was doing it. i was getting better flat serves at the same time, so i thought i was just swinging too fast. nope.

    still scared to hit that big flat serve now. : ( now i just grip and spin it.
     
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  38. Discovery660

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    The only times my racket slips from my hand is if I am super sweaty, and my grip is not working good.
     
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