I love it when I'm vindicated

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  1. Phil

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    I think the answer is affirmative.
     
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  2. C_Urala

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    Well, we are already going in the right direction...
     
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  3. Phil

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    I suppose it's only logical that the first inclination of someone coming from a (former?) police state, who never had the right to think for himself, will be to repress or eliminate thoughts and ideas that he neither agrees with or understands. After all, that's what the fascist states do, and it's hard to get away from a lifetime of forced conditioning (i.e. brainwashing). So I do understand that, C.

    Your goal is to learn that this Board isn't under the control of the CPUSSR, and if you don't want to add to the discussion, stay out, STFU and don't bother people who DO want to participate. You also should learn to DEAL with things that make you uncomfortable, instead of acting like a testosterone-deprived whinning little biatch. Go and censor THAT.
     
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  4. BLiND

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    N!gger is a slang word for Nigerians... It was used in the early colonisations where the first Africans were brought accross to the americans. I believe the first country the "whites" landed in was Nigeria, or at least it was the most important during that time.

    A n!gger is someone from Nigeria. Just like Paki is someone from Pakistan, a Eyeti from Italy, etc.
     
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  5. C_Urala

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    Apparently, the only thing about you can think of is my balls ... Who's after that testosterone-deprived?
    :lol: :lol:
     
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  6. C_Urala

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    I think that this word came from Spanish 'negro'.
     
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  7. Cypo

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    AskOxford.com says N!gger comes from the Spanish, negro.

    Yahoo dictionaries comes up with:
    "ETYMOLOGY: Alteration of dialectal neger, black person, from French nègre, from Spanish negro. See Negro. "

    But likely the word Nigeria comes from the French as well so they're not unrelated.

    Just currious: are you a UKi, a Briti or an Engi ?
     
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  8. C_Urala

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    The main goal of propaganda is to convince people of its own absence. Definitely, in that beloved state of yours, Phil, propaganda has achieved this goal. On the other hand, you are so easily manipulated that it's just a piece of cake.

    Did you live in the USSR yourself? Or your 'understandings' are based on 'non-police' (?) mass-media?
     
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  9. Cypo

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    C_Urala - your English is excellent, but I wonder if the word emasculate was really what you meant ?
     
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  10. C_Urala

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    It's a word-for-word translation of a Russian term, which means that a discussion becomes unavailing or futile. My dictionary says that 'emasculate' can be used in a figurative sense. Maybe it's not that good after all.
     
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  11. BLiND

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    Yes Cypro thats correct, the point being, its meaning is of someone from Africa, its just we intpret and add-on other meanings which makes it a bad word, or racist.... which is a shame.

    As for me... I dunno, I am English, so not sure what slang words there are for me... I'd be intersted to know ;-)
     
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  12. pound cat

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    No Phil, Roma are not a race. They are members of the Caucasian race, the same race to which you belong I think. Their origin is in the Indus valley, and from there they spread to both Europe and Asia. And although East Indians have darker skin than most Europeans, they too are Caucasian.
     
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  13. C_Urala

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    how many races exist at all?
     
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  14. pound cat

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    The idea of "races" was thought up in the 19th century in an attempt to show the superiority of one group over another and humans became seen as as aboriginals, Caucasians, Africans or Asians. This is a statement about race from the American Anthropolocical Society: IMO the whole ida or "race" would best be forgotten & people shouilf be seen as one.

    ""Race" thus evolved as a worldview, a body of prejudgments that distorts our ideas about human differences and group behavior. Racial beliefs constitute myths about the diversity in the human species and about the abilities and behavior of people homogenized into "racial" categories. The myths fused behavior and physical features together in the public mind, impeding our comprehension of both biological variations and cultural behavior, implying that both are genetically determined. Racial myths bear no relationship to the reality of human capabilities or behavior. Scientists today find that reliance on such folk beliefs about human differences in research has led to countless errors.

    At the end of the 20th century, we now understand that human cultural behavior is learned, conditioned into infants beginning at birth, and always subject to modification. No human is born with a built-in culture or language. Our temperaments, dispositions, and personalities, regardless of genetic propensities, are developed within sets of meanings and values that we call "culture." Studies of infant and early childhood learning and behavior attest to the reality of our cultures in forming who we are.

    It is a basic tenet of anthropological knowledge that all normal human beings have the capacity to learn any cultural behavior. The American experience with immigrants from hundreds of different language and cultural backgrounds who have acquired some version of American culture traits and behavior is the clearest evidence of this fact. Moreover, people of all physical variations have learned different cultural behaviors and continue to do so as modern transportation moves millions of immigrants around the world.

    How people have been accepted and treated within the context of a given society or culture has a direct impact on how they perform in that society. The "racial" worldview was invented to assign some groups to perpetual low status, while others were permitted access to privilege, power, and wealth. The tragedy in the United States has been that the policies and practices stemming from this worldview succeeded all too well in constructing unequal populations among Europeans, Native Americans, and peoples of African descent. Given what we know about the capacity of normal humans to achieve and function within any culture, we conclude that present-day inequalities between so-called "racial" groups are not consequences of their biological inheritance but products of historical and contemporary social, economic, educational, and political circumstances.
     
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  15. C_Urala

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    Yes, the concept of 'races' was originally such an attempt. But today it's just a term in anthropology. There are apparent diffferences between people of different races. It doesn't make ones better than others but if you eliminate this term, how could you describe these differences?
     
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  16. pound cat

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    I think that soon (anthroologically speaking) all people will look alike anyway...if we last that long LOL
     
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    Pound cat - is that going to be on the final ? :) Seriously - well said.

    C_urala - Maybe by looking beyond differences ? What is gained by grouping people together ? Especially as more and more people are genetically mixed. Saying a group (blacks, Americans, women, Christians) behaves in a certain way, denies each member of the group the right to be treated as an individual. I'm sure you've faced prejudice of this kind in your life. I have, both as an American and as a woman.

    Take any one on this board - no one knows if any of us are what we say we are - even down to gender. We are all evaluated by what we say. I'm dead sure that if we met, we'd be quite surprised by the way people look and their backgrounds - and sadly enough, most of us would probably revise our opinions of each other after finding out.
     
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  18. BLiND

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    Yeah soon we will all be half-cast... we'll all look like Helly Berry.

    hmmmmm I can't wait ;-)
     
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  19. david aames

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    Halle Berry with better driving skills I hope.

     
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  20. BLiND

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    And better spelling skills too :)
     
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  21. pound cat

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    The Halle Berry look? I'd like that. Not guys too I hope LOL
     
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  22. @wright

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    So the guys will have boobs too?
     
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  23. david aames

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    Nope. Just you, awright. So that you can dominate the WTA in your next incarnation.

     
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  24. pound cat

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    In this overweight society, it seems to be coming to that @wright
     
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  25. @wright

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    True pound cat, but let it be known, I don't, nor have I ever had b1tch t1ts.
     
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  26. pound cat

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    It's ok @wright, I never in my wildest dreams thought my comment could apply to you LOL.

    And Cypo, it is the final...of World Issues 101
     
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  27. Phil

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    Pound Cat - I'm aware of where the Roma originate from, but I still have to disagree. They are a "race" as that term is generally used. I'm merely using the word to distingish groups with different ethnic/cultural/physical differences, and not to "rank" them. In this sense, I think C_Urala has it right. The Germans, Jews, Arabs, Slavs and other groups are "caucasion" but they are ALSO races. The Chinese and Japanese, both Asiatic, are different, although closely related, "races". I have read some articles where scientists say that there are NO races. That's a theory, but until universally accepted, the groups I mentioned are still distinguishable "races".
     
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  28. C_Urala

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    Well, I see your point. And agree to some extent. Especially, when it comes to generalizations. I find them always insulting (well, almost) And yet...
    It all depends on what problem you study. Sometimes, it's useful to look beyond individual differences and to group people according to some characteristic (blacks, Americans, women, Christians).
    Ask publicity agents...
    Sometimes, it's useful to unite these groups and consider people as a whole - mankind, the human. ( or since you're a woman - womankind and the huWoman) - just kidding. :wink: :p: :wink:

    And sometimes, a problem requires an approach to people as individuals.

    Until people do have anatomical differences, I think it's rightful to have terms that denote the differences. It's not the words themselves, it's the wrong use of these words that create all the abuses.
     
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  29. C_Urala

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    Well, it appeared that 'race' is a term that is understood quite differently. In my vocabulary, 'The Germans, Jews, Arabs, Slavs' are not races. They are nations.
    That's why was my question: How many races exist at all?
    As far as I remember, there are about five races:
    Three are well known - Negroids, Mongoloids, and Europeoids ( I think you call them Caucasians)
    Then, there is a race somewhere, representatives of which speak during inhalation rather than during exhalation as all other do.
    And there can be some more races..
     
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    I think "nation" is a political, man-made creation that indicates a similar language, culture and geography. These groups are not necessarily nations-they are ethnic groups-maybe that's a more accurate term than "race". Slavs, for example, live in a number of "nations" and differ in culture and language from one nation to another. The same is true of Jews.
     
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  31. goober

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    If Tim Henmen were from the ghetto, my guess he would not be playing Tennis. 8)
     
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  32. C_Urala

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    ...and of the Gipsy. Agree. It's just a matter of definitions.
     
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  33. C_Urala

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    ...and...??
     
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  34. goober

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    And this is a pointless discussion?
     
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  35. C_Urala

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    Such a revelation! :p :lol: :lol:
     
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    finally!.... we're OFF to the races

    10/4 over and out
     
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    LOL sean. Good one.
     
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