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  1. Tennisguy777

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    I am going to buy a klippermate machine although the Gamma x-2 looks much better. I also thought about the ATS Super Stringer 2 but the plastic clamps turned me off. Both the Gamma and the ATS (made by Gamma) have a ratchet action which I have been informed is lacking on the Klippermate. Can this be put on the Klipp, what are the advantages of this? If anyone wants to dissuade me form buying the klippermate do so now or forever hold your peace.

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    The Gamma looks so much better!!!!!
     
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  2. zidane339

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    I think the Gamma X-2 would be much easier to use due to the racheting action, but thats just my opinion.

    The ATS SS II is just a cheaper quality version of the X-2, so don't go for that.
     
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  3. Booyah

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    yeah i prefer the X-2 as well. It seemed sturdier to me.
     
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    No, you cannot add a tensioning drum to a Klippermate. The tensioning system is quite different on a K'mate - it uses a set of gripper jaws that work on a cam to close together and grip the string when the tension rod is rotated clockwise. It works very well and you quickly get used to the amount of string to feed through the jaws to get the rod to rest at near horizontal. To adjust the amount of string in the jaws is simply a matter of lifting the rod and consequently opening the jaws a little to feed through or release a little string.

    As I say, it works well and is very easy to learn. You'll wonder why you didn't buy a portable dropweight sooner!!
     
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  5. Spatula

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    You've been posting about this decision for months if I remember correctly. Honestly its not that big of an investment. It's a $130-150 max. Get what you feel the most comfortable with. They hold their resale value fairly well. If after a while you find you want to upgrade, try a different model etc, you'll have a good idea of what you want in a machine.

    Grab a machine, all of the choices are solid machine and will do a good job. Get the machine and start stringing....
     
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    The Gamma ratchet cannot save all that much time. You can easily do slight adjustments on a Kmate. The Kmate clamps open and close faster, can be done with one hand; much faster than GAmma, and I have both and can make a fair comparison.

    Spatula's right: the resale value on a Kmate is pretty high, so you can sell it if you don't like it.
     
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    honestly, it is a total tossup. pick the most important factor for you personally and choose according to that.

    better clamps - kmate
    ratchet mechanism - x2
    warranty - kmate
    string package - probably the x2
    appearance - sounds like you like the x2, but the kmate is nice also
     
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  8. aussie

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    Probably add:

    made in the usa (does that matter?) - kmate
    after sales service and support - kmate is legendary for this although gamma is good
    warranty - add that it is lifetime on the machine and ALL tools (clamps, pliers, awl, start pin, brake pin) to original owner WORLDWIDE:)
    Like the others have said - don't delay any longer, you are wasting money by delaying, not saving.
     
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  9. Tennisguy777

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    Wrong guy: Get the right guy next time! It's a big investment $170 for a Klippermate. I am not in the habit of switching. I don't switch racquets every week like some people on these boards, whom we'll not name. Thanks for the advice! 1 quick question, is the lifetime warranty on the klippermate valid only for the original buyer or is it transferable?
     
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  10. Tennisguy777

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    Just ordered my Klippermate @ 11:03 PM. YaY :) :) :)
     
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    I think its only valid for the orginal owner.

    Congrats, welcome to the stringing world.

    I think everyone is talking about another member with a Nadal avatar whose been talking forever about getting a stringer, so just a mixup.
     
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    No the lifetime warranty is not transferable. Klipper keeps a database of all purchasers of K'mates and knows who are original owners. Glad you have ordered one finally. Did I tell you that the Dunlop AG 300 can't be strung on a K'mate because of the shape of the throat? No, just joking:wink:

    Seriously, you'll wonder why you didn't get one sooner. It looks agricultural, but you will produce consistent string jobs that you'll be happy with. Then you'll be buying different types of string, trying all types of hybrids, different gauges, tensions and so on and having a great time.

    Post any questions you may have when you get the Kmate - we all love to help!!
     
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  13. Tennisguy777

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    Aussie don't do that next time, I just skimmed through your post and nearly died on the second line. My BP must have jumped at least 30pts for a sec. Thanks for the help. I also ordered their overgrips 10 for $5 is it any good I usually use wilson pro overgrip or tourna grip. Now if I can only make a decision on a 10 Mega Pixel digital camera - never had one yet. There are way to0 many choices and price variations kinda like stringing machines.
     
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    Oh by the way, the first racquet I'll string is my 1st tennis racquet that I ever owned. The legendary Donnay Pro Ceramic 1. I got it used in 1998 and when the strings broke I went and bought a cheapy cause back then I didin't know you could restring them, thought you had to buy another one. I was 13 or so then, oh the nostalgia is killing me. When I get my Digital Cam I'll post photos of my Klippjobs as I'll start calling them.
     
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    Sorry, couldn't resist the stir!!! Good to start on an old frame, take your time, read the manual through a couple of times first and you'll be fine. Make sure you screw the mounting plates down nice and firm and the frame will hold well. Probably take about 3 hours for your first which is normal.

    When you string your AG 300, you may need to prelace the mains in the throat before mounting, which with most frames you don't need to do. not hard, just a bit fiddly.

    The Klipper overgrips are okay and good value at 50 cents each at present. I prefer Gamma Supreme overgrips as they are slightly tacky, feel great and last a long time. The Klipper ones are not tacky from memory.

    Best of luck with everything!!
     
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  16. Tennisguy777

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    3hrs huh, this means this project will have to wait for an off day. Is it ok to just leave the racquet mounted and half strung just in case I need lets say, SLEEP. Or will this break the tensioner and or machine.
     
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  17. crazytennis

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    Don't do that. Never.

    p.s. My first time was hour 15 or something like that.
     
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  18. aussie

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    Yeah, don't leave a frame half strung for any length of time. A frame needs a reasonably equal amount of tension around the hoop to retain its integrity (as in shape). Having said that, manys the time I've been in pro stringing shops and noticed frames left half strung (often overnight) without incident. The 3 hour time estimate for your first stringing job is a "worst case" scenario.
     
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    Bro, first ...chill out....no need to get harsh with your tone.

    I'm not sure which Klippermate your looking at but according to the klipper site there is no $170 model. See for yourself: http://www.klipperusa.com/products/productlisting.php?catid=1

    I never said anything about racquet switching so I'm not sure what your point is about that. My point was, get the machine you think will meet your needs. It's not a big investment @ $135 (per the Kmate site). If you find you don't like it, sell it off. It will retain a high resale value.

    Either way, good luck with your choice.
     
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    I think the chief and best thing about having my Kmate is the ability to MUCH BETTER dial in exactly the right string and tension. Experimenting with strings and tensions becomes financially feasible, so you can learn what works best for you. It's nice to add this component to your game: a better and fresher stringbed.
     
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  21. Tennisguy777

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    $135 + $30 shipping and $5 Klipp overgrips = $170 We're all friends here, just don't like being accused, you'll get over it don't worry.

    WHY SO SERIOUS??

    LETS PUT A SMILE ON THAT FACE!


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  22. Il Mostro

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    Forgot your meds? :) Good luck with the Klipper.
     
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  23. Spatula

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    What's funny here, is I never "accused" you of anything. In fact you gave a less than professional/friendly tone with me in your response to my 1st post. But that's fine, that what I get for dealing with a child. I should have expected that.

    Either way, you paid too much, if you searched enough you could have had free shipping and saved that $30 which is so precious to you (since this is a "big investment" as you noted). But I hope you enjoy the machine and learn to be civilized along the way.

    Happy stringing!
     
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    I am also looking in to getting a Klippermate. where can you get free shipping?
     
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  25. Tennisguy777

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    See your first sentence! It's an accusatory line. I am not a troll! I still love you forget about it! Oh and if anyone cared I also bought the kodak EasyShare z1285.

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  26. Spatula

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    Your right, that does sound a bit like an accusation. Not my intention, but I am sorry for that.

    The rest of my post however is more than valid.
     
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  27. crazytennis

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    Does the camera have AA batteries ? I'm looking for a camera with a lith-ion battery.
     
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    Yes it does both lithium and ion batteries and also rechargeable. Also I checked the Klippermate and there is no way to get free shipping! If there was please point me to it! All the websites say free shipping but when you read the fine print they say this excludes cases of canned balls and stringing machines!

    Oh on the camera the place I bought from, their warehouse is 30 miles away (didn't know that when I ordered) so I'll get my cam in 24 hrs. I already checked the tracking # and instead of 5 business days I'll have buy tomorrow afternoon, SWEET!
     
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  29. Tennisguy777

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    YAY I got my camera yesterday and my Klippermate today! Looks like I am not sleeping today! First Up Donnay Ceramic Pro 1. here is the pics to stringer.

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  30. Tennisguy777

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    I don't see the break pin where is it supposed to be?
     
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    Never mind found it bagged with the cleaning tools.
     
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  32. Mansewerz

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    Nice bed sheets haha. You play High school tennis?
     
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  33. Tennisguy777

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    You wish you had my sheets! Big problem though I'm stuck on step 3 of method B
     
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  34. Mansewerz

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    How old are you man? Bugs bunny?!!! Hahaha, j/k man, old school works too.

    Step 3 method b? Is this from the manual? What's it say?
     
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  35. Tennisguy777

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    yeah and also the clamps aren't holding for me you got aim i'll send you the pdf.
     
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  36. Mansewerz

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    Yea, but can you e-mail it. launching aim on this computer is a PITA!!

    mansewerz@aim.com
     
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  37. Tennisguy777

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    use aim express well anyway check your e-mail now
     
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  38. Mansewerz

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    thanks haha. i'll check right away
     
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    This crap is a lot harder than you guys make it seem on these boards I should have gotten a table top electric or something. I can't even get the weight to float LOL!
     
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  40. Mansewerz

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    Sorry for teh delay, had to do something real quick, i'm opening it as we speak.

    btw, you play high school tennis? I noticed your box was from elgin, IL.
     
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  41. Mansewerz

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    Hmm, wtf, this manual seems hard to understand for some reason. Maybe I should start from the beginning. A vid would be better.
     
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  42. Tennisguy777

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    nope, I used to in Pennsylvania like 6 years ago!
     
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    I understand it mostly but I don't have enough hands to do this!
     
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  44. Loco4Tennis

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    first off, congrats on your purchase, i also have one like yours, best tennis money investment i ever made
    as per your last post, it takes practise, keep at it, soon enough it will be a walk in the park
    this might help however, try to tension above the horizontal line on your first pull and then gradually adjust to get to horizontal or close to it

    umm, also not being on the computer as you string would help; radio or tv playing on the background is ok, but typing and stringing, not such a good combination,,, just a tought!!
     
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  45. Mansewerz

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    Hmm, this is a strange way to start out the mains, at least to me.

    So here's what we're doing.

    Lace up the center mains. Then go on to lace up the left mains. Now clamp close to the frame as shown in the pic. Now pull that starting loop for the center mains by pulling out the right center main. Tension it as shown.

    Otherwise, tell me what's baffling you.
     
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    the clamps aren't holding and the drop weight is not staying up it wants to fall to grounds I have to hold it up
     
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  47. Mansewerz

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    Yes, so that starting pin is put into a grommet that already has a string in it? how does it work. Those black and white photos in teh pdf are bad quality.
     
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  48. Mansewerz

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    Tighten the clamps using the screw. Tighten enough so th string doesn't slip, but not enough so that it leaves marks on the string. You can check slippage with a crayon by marking the string.

    The drop weight falling means the tension is too loose. Give less slack to the jaws.
     
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    My drop weight won't stay up like the pic.
     
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  50. Mansewerz

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    It shouldn't. That's the not in use position. It should float parallel to the base of the machine.
     
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