i need to understand how the ATP points work

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  1. kelghazaly

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    for example if i want to go pro what should i do

    my coach told me in order to get into international tournament i have to become in the top 50 of my country after that what should i do to get into the ATP world tour and what is the ATP challenger
     
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  2. uk_skippy

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    ITF Futures are the lowest level of pro tournaments. IIRC, 2 wins in the main draw of a futures tourney will get you 1 ranking point, certainly on a $10k futures. The more points you have, the higher the ranking tourney you can enter. If you have now ranking points you'll have to go thru 3 rounds (at least) of qualifying draw to get to the main draw.

    You dont have to be in your countries top 50 to enter a $10k event, just registered as a pro player. You may be lucky in that the qualies arent full and you can simply 'sign in' on the day.

    When youve got enough points you can enter the qualies of the next level, ATP Challengers, where the process continues until you able to enter the ATP Tour.

    Different levels of tournaments offer different points. The higher the tournament, the more points on offer.

    Also, $10k isnt the winners cheque, its the total prize money for the event.

    Regards
     
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  3. kelghazaly

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    so this ITF Futures have anything in egypt??!

    also how much i pay to get in it?!!
     
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  4. sureshs

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    What is your level and age now?
     
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    Great explanation, very easy to understand. I also didn't know how this system works.
     
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  6. uk_skippy

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    Check here for tournament details

    http://www.itftennis.com/procircuit/tournaments/men's-calendar.aspx

    It appears that most tourneys in Egypt will be at Sharm El Sheikh.

    Next one is end of November

    http://www.itftennis.com/procircuit/tournaments/men's-tournament/info.aspx?tournamentid=1100030630

    If you go to that link you can see all the details of the tournament, and entry fee is US$40.

    You need to register for an IPIN

    http://www.itftennis.com/procircuit/ipin/about-ipin.aspx

    Hope this helps

    Regards
     
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  7. kelghazaly

    kelghazaly Rookie

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    i am 21

    i played from 6-12
    and from 20-21 i know it seems like i cant do it but believe no one ever can learn a fast as i can
    my coach was amazed when i started again at 20 as in five minutes i was able to rally with him with control and power
     
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  8. Govnor

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    Wow...you will indeed have to be a fast learner.
     
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  9. LuckyR

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    To go Pro? Easy, cash the prize money checks. If you continue to tear them up you remain an amateur.
     
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  10. sureshs

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    First you will have to prove yourself in local Open tournaments to see whether you can even beat non-pros and older people.
     
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  11. Bdarb

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    sounds like a pro tennis player...
     
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  12. kelghazaly

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    am sorry i didnt understand you why would i remain amateur?!!!
    do i need more money to go into more professional tournaments?!!
     
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  13. Gut4Tennis

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    she is just being funny

    on a serious note, you need to go to itftennis.com and then register for an ipin
    http://www.itftennis.com/procircuit/ipin/about-ipin.aspx
     
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  14. anubis

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    Before you waste time and money in an attempt to go pro, you should consider the following questions:

    1. What is your singles record?
    2. How many singles wins do you have against people with ATP points?
    3. What is your record against people that have played in Davis cup tournaments?
    4. What is your record against nationally ranked amateur players?
    5. How do you do in local, open tournaments?
    6. Have you won any national titles?
    7. Do you have any sponsorships?
    8. If not, have you considered applying for sponsorships?
    9. Are you receiving high-level coaching?
    10. Have you considered hiring a dietician and physical therapist?
    11. How often do you exercise outside of playing tennis?
    12. Have you contacted Priority 1 to get help with racquet customizations for maximum results?
    13. Do you have a way to take care of all of your bills/rent/expenses automatically while you travel the world? Don't want to miss payments and have debt collectors coming after you while on tour...
    14. Do you have health insurance?

    You may not need all of the above to begin your pro tennis career, but you will need most of it eventually. IMO, those things are more important than worrying about how many ATP points you have. The life of a pro tennis player is not sexy. it's hard work, it's a full time job. It's 80+ hours a week, it's high risk, and low reward if you're outside of the top 100. It's also very expensive.

    Just food for thought :)
     
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  15. LuckyR

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    Sorry for being difficult to understand. To be a Professional you have to get paid. To get paid you have to win prize money. To win prize money you have to win matches/rounds in tournaments that have a purse.

    Of course if you do the above but don't cash the check, you don't get the money so you remain an amateur.

    Simple, really.
     
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  16. kelghazaly

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    am sorry about the racket customization is that important to i have to customize?!!

    even if i am comfortable with it?!!
     
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