I pushed...Yikes!!!

Discussion in 'Adult League & Tournament Talk' started by smiley74, Jan 24, 2008.

  1. HowardH

    HowardH New User

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    I'm in the same boat so keep at it and we all will get where we want to go.

    Best!
    Howard
     
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  2. raiden031

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    So you're saying that using proper strokes means you're playing an offensive game? I disagree. If you re-read the OP's posts, she says she sacrificed proper technique in her pushing game, not that she simply chose to play a more defensive game. There is nothing wrong with playing a defensive game if proper stroke mechanics are used.

    I feel like too many people on this board assume that players that are anti-pusher basically go for winners on every shot.

    Couldn't disagree with this more. What beginner doesn't lose alot? Everyone will lose and everyone will get crushed/bageled a few times during their beginner days. Great technique is not a recipe for losing. It just may mean the player is going to be more inconsistent for a while when developing their game, more so than the pusher. So what? At least they have a chance of playing a high level of tennis unlike the pusher. I don't like thinking of tennis players as these mentally weak people who need to be spoon fed confidence otherwise they will quit. If they can't handle a few losses let them quit.
     
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  3. raiden031

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    It sounds like you want too much too fast. If I remember correctly, you've only been playing less than a year right? It would be nice to be a top player right now in your area, but its going to take some time. I really think you should listen to your coach and focus 80% on technique and 20% on winning if you want to become a solid tennis player. I have never seen someone play a pusher's game (as you described yourself playing) and develop into a solid tennis player. I have seen people go from inconsistent players who overhit every shot (and lose alot) but with decent form turn into more consistent players though.

    In other words, I've been playing with USTA league players for about 1 1/2 years (been playing longer than that though). The only of these players that have improved are the ones with decent stroke mechanics. I have never seen a pusher improve during this time frame.
     
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  4. dgrave2

    dgrave2 Semi-Pro

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    thats basically what im trying to say! I don't want to win by pushing. I'd rather lose but keep my form!
     
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  5. cak

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    This works for people who play lots of practice or social matches. For instance, when it's not raining (6 straight days of rain, I'm ready for sun...) ladies at my club who play USTA usually play 4 to 6 social matches a week, and then play USTA. They can try out all their adjustments in those games, and gain confidence that they can get that big forehand in. For the people on this thread that generally get in one or two practice matches to every USTA match, well, they are going to have to use some USTA matches as practice matches.
     
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  6. rosenstar

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    What I have found works best to do is go 3 months of hard practice, including changing technique and other fundamental parts of my game. the next by 3 months consists of intense tournament play. Of course, I still practice, but my practices are more like hitting sessions than lessons. Almost all collegiant players do this. They train during the summer, compete during the fall season, train during winter break, and compete during the spring season. The cycle repeats itself.

    I don't see why this system would not work for a recreational player trying to be the best player they can.
     
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  7. JohnP

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    Tell him to shut the hell up.
     
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  8. rosenstar

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    Many high level players use "some kind of crap slice or underspin." Federer does this all the time. this is a necessity for any player who plays a "cat and mouse" game. Balls with heavy underspin and heavy loopy topspin are not just for pushers. Every player should know how to do this.

    IMO, a pusher is a player who simply moves to a ball, opens up his racquet face, and lets the ball bounce off, not a player who relies on crafty shot selection and off pace shots to win matches. Fabrice santoro does this, and he is not a "pusher" (at leaast not in my book). He is an intelligent, crafty player who uses his strengthes to win matches.
     
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  9. wao

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    While I was rehabing my knee ( 6mths worth), I would swing the racquet counting the time until I could get back to the court. You are absolutely right, go out there and play like your pro has instructed. Win or lose, in the long run ( or sooner ) you will get better and improve.
     
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