I stand by Juan Martin del Potro: The Tower of Tandil

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  1. hersito

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    Its a grade 1 sprain of the wrist, he have it since 2012 that's why he slices so much the ball in some tournaments. His doctor told him he shouldn't need an operation but they are considering what to do. It seems to be a genetic problem in both wrists.
     
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  2. Wynter

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    Didn't Safin have wrist injuries in 2003/4?
     
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  3. Ico

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    Playing Rotterdam and Dubai with an injury was foolish. We know the guy can win 500s - it's time for better schedule management and a focus on major titles.
     
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    I thought DelPo played with a heavier racket, and wasn't sure if that contributed to the problem.
     
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    Sad to say but Delpo is starting to look like the posterboy for wrong calendar choices, this is the nth time where he has played a tourney while having physical issues, thus worsening them.

    Playing through pain can be a very stupid thing to do sometimes and Delpo is living proof of that. He has never recovered his 2009 level, his play is outstanding at times but he can't keep his level up and to top it all off, he gets injured quite often and has to start all over again.

    It's a shame cause the guy has a certified giant killer game but his body doesn't seem to hold up.
     
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  6. So is the wrist ok? He is playing IW.

    Shame the injury ended his great form. He would have got to #3 otherwise. Injury has cost him two.slams in a row.
     
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  7. ricki

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    Hitting flat 2h backhand hurts sometimes, I also dont have problem with wrist on forehand side, but on backhand, my left wrist husts sometimes BIG when we play with new stiff balls such as this week with ancient Tretorn Serie balls... :-/
     
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  8. Russeljones

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    Why is Delpo risking his career?
     
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  9. ricki

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    IMO he better switch to Prince EXO tour :)
     
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    Wrist must be better...he's even playing dubs (w/junior rival Cilic)!
     
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    Who knows... I hope he doesn't completely ruin himself. :(
     
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    So ... he's playing doubles with Cilic, but he's not in the main draw?

    Or he's in both draws, but he's playing hurt ...?

    I am so confused.
     
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    He's playing both singles and doubles. Lost 8-10 to Nestor/Zimonjic. Next, he plays F. Lopez tomorrow. His left wrist is injured right now, getting treatment here in the States. He really shouldn't be playing BUT he is.
     
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  15. Not much to say other than extremely disappointing.

    Just as he looked to be back to his best. Wimbledon 2013 showed his true level.

    Hopefully the surgery is a success.

    To look at the positives, at least this all happened after he won a slam and also the Olympic Bronze was a brilliant part of his comeback. Those are the two highlights of his career. Maybe the long breaks will increase his hunger and longevity.

    We all know he would have won more without the injuries but lets hope he has some more success when he returns.
     
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  16. Roddick85

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    I'm very disappointed that Del Potro's season is over because of another wrist injury. He's a class act and makes quite an entertaining match-up with Federer/Nadal/Djokovic as he's one of the only guys inside the top 10 that truly stands a chance at beating them when he's playing well. He was on my list of players I wanted to see play live.

    With that injury however, I do have to question how this will affect his career and his odds at going back inside the top 5. At 25 years of age, he's in his peak years. Odds are, he will probably be back only next year, at 26. Last time, it took him almost 2 years to almost get back to his USO 09 level. There's no guarantees he will be the same when he comes back, and by the time he might be able to find his form, he'll be 27-28. Sorry but not convinced.

    I sincerely wish him the best and hope he can recover quickly and resume from where he left off, but from a more realistic point of view, I think the injury will likely be a bit of a nail in the coffin for his career as a top guy. Hope i'm wrong here.
     
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  17. Mainad

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    You could argue that he never really got back to his 2009 level given that he never won another Slam or even got to another Slam final. His most significant achievements post 2009 were reaching 2 more Masters finals last year (IW and Shanghai), both of which he lost, and winning a bronze medal at the 2012 Olympics by defeating Djokovic and narrowly losing to Federer in an epic marathon!*

    *Edited.

    That said, his age won't necessarily count against him even if takes him another 2 years to get fully back to form. After all, Stan Wawrinka has just managed to win his first Slam at the ripe old age of 28!
     
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    He didn't beat Federer. He lost the epic to Federer and beat Djokovic. :)
     
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  19. Mainad

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    Lol...of course. Somehow I keep thinking that he won that particular epic! :oops:;)
     
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    True but at least he got himself back into a position where he can be at the very least considered a contender.

    You could be right. However, I still believe Wawrinka's win will not translate in him being a top 5 guy for a few years, he probably reached his peak those last 6 months and will slowly go back to his top 10 position. I just don't see how at 28 years of age, a tennis player can suddenly pop-up as a slam contender and stay a top guy for many years, much like what Nadal/Federer/Djokovic have been doing for so long.
     
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  21. The_Flying_Vulture

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    Good news Del Potro is out playing tennis again, altough not yet with his left wrist. He posted this on facebook:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejm6YRbqikQ

    I also read he said he hoped to be back on tour before the US Open. He said it to a kid he visited in the hospital (can't find the source anymore). Let's hope he'll make that.
     
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    I agree with you. I guess he was the only player to beat Nadal and Federer to win a grand slam which is US Open.
     
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  23. Incognito

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    Thanks for this wonderful news. OMG, what a handsome man!!! Slam number 2 coming up!!! :)
     
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  24. Incognito

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    Djokovic 2011 USO :(
     
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  25. heninfan99

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    Good to hear that the gentle giant is back on the court!
     
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  26. Start da Game

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    three tournaments which he should have won but ended up losing due to poor stamina and conditioning:

    1. roland garros 2009

    2. olympics singles gold 2012

    3. wimbledon 2013
     
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  27. Fiji

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    good news. Maybe a rg win next year?
     
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  28. Mainad

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    But what makes you think he would have rolled over Murray in the final of either of those 2 grasscourt events? Del Potro has never won a grasscourt title or even been in a final!
     
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    Good to see your still around General Shanks!

    DelPo still has time to make his mark.
    He's lost a few tournaments due to conditioning, at those times his game was good but he let his conditioning go down.
    It also cost him Indian Wells, he just ran out of gas in the second set against Nadal, 2013 I think it was.
    Lost another one against Murray in Shanghai IIRC.

    Right now he just has to get ready and take time to heal properly.
    I'll be waiting. :)
     
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  30. Chace

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    Good see Delpo on the court. Hopefully he'll fully recover and be back on tour in a few months.
     
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    There are not that manny grass tournaments out there. I dont know if he even had played ten in his career. For example Tsvetana Pironkova never has been past the second round of Wimbledon+ there are no grass courts in Bulgaria but in 2010 he reached the SF and was a set away from the final.
     
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  32. Start da Game

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    he can definitely target roland garros next year......he's got the big game for the surface, nadal will get old on clay by then and djokovic dispirited after losing 2014......i think roland garros should be his target......

    btw who are you at mtf or t4u?
     
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  33. Start da Game

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    murray would definitely have proved to be a tough hurdle on grass but delpo had already made big strides by then on grass......murray is also vulnerable to blowouts by attacking players on grass......verdasco clowned it up big time, otherwise murray wouldn't have won the 2013 wimbledon.......
     
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  34. Mainad

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    Yes, but that gave Del Potro no guarantee he would beat Murray. Murray was on a mission to win those 2 events. Bear in mind, that he still holds a 5-2 H2H against Del potro!

    Since he became a top player, Murray has only ever been beaten at Wimbledon by Nadal or Federer. He fought his way back to beat Verdasco. Don't forget Federer came back from the brink against Benneteau the previous year to go on to win it!

    Since losing the 2012 Wimbledon final, Murray has won all 18 matches he has played on grass!
     
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  35. Chanwan

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    Only 48 more to go to beat the record;-)
    I doubt Delpo would have beaten Murray in either match. As it turned out, both of Murray's opponents (Djoko and Fed) weren't playing their best in the final. Partly due to Murray being exceptional, partly due to their long Delpo-matches. Odds are, Delpo wouldn't have turned on the heat any more than Djoko-Fed were able to.
     
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  36. Chanwan

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    Boy do I miss Delpo in the top-5.
    He's the most unlucky top-player by far. I wonder how many slams, WTF's and Masters, he would have by now, had he not had any injury problems to deal with.
     
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  37. Goosehead

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    vamos..:) del potro came back fine from his 2010 surgery on his racquet arm, so hopefully be ok this time round.

    good to see him oncourt even if its just a light hit..no reason why he cannot be back by august as its still may..just about lol, timezone permitting :neutral:
     
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  38. Mainad

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    Personally, I'm not too sure his failure to win more big titles is solely down to his physical problems. That's certainly been a big factor but Del Potro seems to have problems closing out big matches from a winning position and that's also a mental thing.

    His 2009 US Open win aside, I've been struck by the number of times Del Potro has been a set or two sets and a break up against top rivals in big finals or semis but can't close out. He has been on the losing side in most of the 3 or 5 setters he has played against the likes of Federer, Djokovic and Murray. I think that's a mental issue as much as anything.
     
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  39. ruerooo

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    Love to watch him play on grass. Will miss him this year at Wimbledon. Can't wait till he comes back.
     
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  40. Chanwan

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    Hard to say. Winning breeds more winning and bigger confidence and the ability to win in tight situations. Since his first wrist injury, he's never been on anything like the run he had leading up to the US Open in 2009 and thus never quite had that kind of confidence and self-belief.
    I say beating Rafa and Fed back to back as the first man ever to do so in a slam and at a time, where Fed was still only in his late 20's requires tremendous mental strength.

    So while I do agree he hasn't shown his mental pedigree fully in the big matches the last 3 years, I think that's as much to do with his situation and lack of luck with regards to his injuries and lack of big-match confidence because of it. The fact that he came back from 500 something to top-10 and to being (when healthy and in form) probably the biggest challenge to the top-4 in the slams speaks of some kind of mental strength imo.
     
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  43. Any del Potro fans feel down watching yesterdays final.

    The standard was quite low, Nadal was as a shadow of himself while Nole was ill.

    I rally think Juan had a chance at winning if he was fit. The big four era is dead and the standard is quite low now. Makes Juan's injuries all the more frustrating.
     
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  44. The_Flying_Vulture

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    Some good news on the progress of Del Potro: He's finally hitting 2 handed backhands again. Although he's only hitting them slow and still with some pain, it's one step closer to his comeback. I'm afraid he won't make the US Open, but looks to me like he might make the fall tournaments.

    His facebook message:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISO00voMXMI
     
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    I follow his recovery very attentively.
     
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    well no more of those lovely one handers
     
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  47. Pasaron dos años ya de este increíble momento de mi vida que jamás voy a
    olvidar. Gracias por compartir cada momento conmigo.

    ///

    It's been two years since this unforgettable moment in my life. Thanks for
    sharing every moment like this with me.

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    So happy he won that bronze. Second only to 09 US Open.
     
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    A nice picture
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  49. Thank you very much for your kind contribution. The highlight of Juan's career.
     
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    Delpo was mentally so tough that period. He also defeated Fed at WTF that year and also owned Rafa at USO but also owned Rafa in other close matches. And defeating Fed in a GS final, you need crazy mental tougness to do that. Only Delpo and Rafa did it till 2014 W, when Nole did it.

    I was saying that at the time Delpo was nr.1 in mental tougness in the world.

    I'm sad Fed lost, but things could be a lot worse. What if he lost to Delpo at FO 09? So in the grand scheme of things it worked out pretty well for everyone.
     

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