I was right about Nadal

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  1. sureshs

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    I predicted that Humbalito would not win all the 3 championships he has signed up for in South America due to several reasons:

    He needs to give credibility to his injury claims
    He needs to be careful not to make the journeymen resent him for stealing their money
    He needs to be careful to appear humble before the local crowd so that he will not be seen as Superman flying in to give the locals a tennis clinic
    He needs to respect the royal attention being poured on him

    And I have been proved correct.
     
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  2. BrooklynNY

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    I think you do make a few valid points though.
     
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  3. sureshs

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    I can read Rafa and Toni's psychology perfectly. Rafa can lose without anyone suspecting anything, and it also can be self-deception - he can persuade himself to lose.
     
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  4. Bartelby

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    His losing doesn't prove you are correct unless a new definition of 'proof' has emerged.
     
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  5. veroniquem

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    As long as he wins masters and/or RG, it doesn't matter if he uses the South American clay swing as a warm up.
     
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  6. DropShotArtist

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    Yeah, losing a 250 after said loss is meaningless, as long as he wins the bigger tournaments. But had he won the 250, oh myyyyyyyyyyy, it would be anointed the greatest comeback in the history of the sport! :)
     
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  7. dudeski

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    So everyone forgot about Agassi?
     
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  8. kalyan4fedever

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    he lost just accept it and move on ..zeb outplayed ur guy thats it
     
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  9. Agassifan

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    Dumb. He really wanted to win.. look at the body language when he saved the BP at 3-4. BTW, I do think he will be back to his former self by the FO.
     
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  10. Agassifan

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    oh yeah.. and don't forget to eat humble crow.
     
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  11. akind

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    Rafa's plan to serena all the clay tournaments has backfired on him.
     
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    Serena all the clay court tournaments? LOL. More like Rafa's plan to Rafa all the clay tournaments backfired on him.
     
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  13. Vrad

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    This post is as dumb as the post claiming the loss proves he was serving a silent ban.

    Funny how 2 posters, can make the same claim (Rafa tanked the match), based on the same facts (loss in the final in the first tournament after a long absence) and come to 2 completely different conclusions.

    Unfortunately, both those conclusions are ridiculous.
     
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  14. sbengte

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    OP, you are a hater. Like it is not enough that Ralph got ZebaRosoled on his comeback, do you really need to make such threads to rub it in :(
     
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  15. Tennis_Hands

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    It is you, who is the hater.

    The OP is the GDTPOAT (Greatest declining troll poaster of all time).

    :)
     
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  16. Sentinel

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    Seriously, What was the score of this match everyone is talking about ? I totally missed it -- I've been following some Federer Cup 2013 on telly (Cze vs Aus).
     
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  17. bestever

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    Rafa lost because his shots were not good enough to stop the opposition hitting winners. The same thing happened against Rosol in his last match. He seems to have lost racket head speed. It could be a major concern or it may come back with practice.
     
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  19. Goosehead

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    no you have not...what a tit.
     
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  20. 3fees

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    Getting 2nd place in a atp tournament is always good, nadal losing to 73rd in atp rankings is cause to concern, top 5 peeps almost always lose to higher rank players not lower, he needs to reverse this like yesterday, last week, last month, ect, the layoff effects are still present.
     
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  21. sureshs

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    Rafa has succeeded beyond his wildest dreams. His plan was to make people think he is slowly recovering from injury, and then win the remaining Masters 1000 and Slams of the year while being the underdog.
     
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    Since you played grammar police on me last week I thought I would return the favor :razz:
     
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  23. Murrayfan31

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    This proves that even with a silent ban, it is hard coming back after out for 8 months of competition. Maybe he is feeling his age.
     
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  24. sureshs

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    Just give him an omlet and he'll be fine.
     
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  26. mattennis

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    I think that, in a certain sense, what I watched in Chile could be a good sign for Nadal.

    A totally rusty, slow, low-energy and very subpar Nadal got the final of his first tournament in 8 months and almost won it.

    If he actually recovers his fitness level (strenght, quickness, endurance) he could very well win one M-1000 on clay this Spring and could be among the top favourites for RolandGarros once again.

    But that "if" is not granted at all (maybe he finds it very difficult this time to get to the optimal physical shape in time).
     
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  27. tusharlovesrafa

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    I left CA and now I am doing last year b comm.Either i will go for MBA or banking.That video did not demonstrate my entire problem,it just gave a brief description of it.They wanted to publicize it by relating it to my career,so that they can put it on yotube under their brand.
     
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  28. batz

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    Both are equally valid. :)
     
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  29. beast of mallorca

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    And I was right by believing in Clarky, such a dependable character in TW.......:twisted:
     
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    What did I tell you? This is part of his plan to show that he is "slowly" recovering.

    I predict that he will lose the third tournament to keep the goodwill going.
     
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  31. Mike Sams

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    Anything less than a 100% Nadal against the current Djokovic isn't going to get it done. Nadal needs to be 100% dialed in mentally and fully capable of going to the brink physically. Djokovic most likely is going to be making an all-out assault on clay this year and going for the Grand Slam. If Djokovic is playing on clay in the kind of form as what he showed at the AO and in 2011, Nadal will really have his work cut out for him.
    This could be one of the best clay swings ever IMO. Del Potro just won Rotterdam and is also getting his confidence and form together. Murray and Federer are also massive potential scares across the way.
     
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  32. beast of mallorca

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    Have to say, I agree with everything you said...........hmmmmm, when you're not trolling, you make a lot of sense. Carry on dude. :)
     
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  33. Mike Sams

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    Well regardless, Nadal is still the man to beat on clay. Still the favourite. All eyes are on Monte Carlo. All these other minor clay tournaments mean little. Nadal wants to protect his main turf and that's MC which I think to him is the most important non-Slam tournament for him. He's won it 8 times I believe. Will be interesting to see if all of the top guys including Federer, Murray, and Djokovic enter.
     
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  34. Mike Sams

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    He won't lose unless he's feeling discomfort in his knee and doesn't want to go all out against a red hot player.
     
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  35. spperry

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    Watched the RG final highlights today again, Nadal was so good in that game.

    He is so far away from that level at the moment no real surprise he lost to number 79 in the world.

    He has to try and get back to that level as I agree with previous posts that if he isnt 100% then he isnt going to beat the other top players.
     
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  36. Murrayfan31

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    Not beating Djokovic this time around. Maybe old man Federer on clay though.
     
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